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Ripmyfly
06-04-2009, 06:55 PM
Anyone use straight razors? Does it hurt to learn? Why are so many over 100 bucks? Can a person find a decent low cost one?

GreyOne
06-04-2009, 07:07 PM
Antique stores have some used ones fairly cheap. Used a straight a few times years ago. Very easy to cut your self- mostly small nicks. Keep styptic pencil handy. A lot of the straight razors were made in sets, often with exotic material in handles, but a plain one with black plastic handles could be had pretty cheap up into the early 70's.
Trying to keep one sharp required a strop and some skill, and time was needed to clean and oil them. Not the thing for our modern day attitudes.
Get a boar bristle brush and cake of shaving soap, in a shaving mug, if you want the full experience. <g>.

Faol
06-04-2009, 07:39 PM
Antique stores have some used ones fairly cheap. Used a straight a few times years ago. Very easy to cut your self- mostly small nicks. Keep styptic pencil handy. A lot of the straight razors were made in sets, often with exotic material in handles, but a plain one with black plastic handles could be had pretty cheap up into the early 70's.
Trying to keep one sharp required a strop and some skill, and time was needed to clean and oil them. Not the thing for our modern day attitudes.
Get a boar bristle brush and cake of shaving soap, in a shaving mug, if you want the full experience. <g>.

I have a badger brush that I still use, with my mug of soap. I haven't used shaving cream in years. You can get the soap at most any grocery store, at least you can here.

I have never used a straight razor either, but have wondered about using one without cutting an artery.

GreyOne
06-04-2009, 07:56 PM
Never use when tired, hung over, or excited <g>.

1stcavmp77
06-04-2009, 08:44 PM
seems to me that getting and learning to sharpen and use one would be well worth the time and money it would require. beats the heck outta spending $10 for a pack of 4 blades every month. i don't see how it could cost so much to buy blades that don't last more than a few days. almost enough to make me wanna give up shaving altogether.

Eagle
06-04-2009, 09:00 PM
Rip, here is a stainless one I got the other day(as u can see it don't take a lode of $ to get started with cut throats)
http://www.simplysoldshop.com/ebay/xl1027/lg_090908_017.jpg

Eagle
06-04-2009, 09:12 PM
and take G1s advice! I prefer a badger brush myself....and Ivory soap in a coffee cup works just fine.

ArmoredSheepdog
06-04-2009, 09:12 PM
Not a straight razor user myself, for the reasons you stated. I have been using my Merkur heavy duty for 2 years now and love the thing. $.50 blades that last about a month each with heavy use beats the hell out of the friggin multi-blade razors. Shave cream I use is Geo F Trumper brand (Rose, they come in different colors/scents I think). This $25 tub has lasted me over 20 months and is only about 3/5th used up.
http://www.highlandmenscare.com/geo-f-trumper-rose-shaving-cream.html

my badger brush I think cost $10 from Amazon.com, I just build the lather right onto my face instead of using a cup, wastes less that way. It really doesnt take more than a dime sized dab of the cream.

Jason
06-04-2009, 09:25 PM
I use only a Vulfix super badger brush with Truefitt and Hill shaving cream. I also got a straight razor but it took too much time for my taste but I just can't give up the brush/cream combo. I did try the solid bar soap that you melt in the mug but the cream is 10 times better IMHO. I get everything from classicshaving.com

You should be able to get a brand new decent razor for around $50, a used on much less but I would send it out to a proper sharpening service first. I never did invest in the stones you need to truly get it sharp enough like the double sided norton. You will get some cuts yes but that's the price of admission my friend. :D

Trekon86
06-04-2009, 10:14 PM
Yes I have a couple and have used them for weeks on end. Yes it hurts a little (esp. if they get dull and you don't take the time to hone em) and yes it's easy to cut yourself, but it's a fun thing to learn. I just use regular shaving cream or gel but I will prob. get a badger brush and some cakes soon.

ASD--That Merkur sounds really cool...will have to check that out. Thanks:)
PMZ

irrationalsolutions
06-04-2009, 10:50 PM
i use one. i started a few months back. i didnt cut myself the forst time but the second i did. thats when i realized that you just have to take your time. and make sure its sharp! i let mine go and it hurts. but i fixed that fast.

to get mine i hunted around and looked for deals. i ended up with to razors one carbon and one satinless a strop and badger brush for under $40, but they came from different places.

Faol
06-04-2009, 11:29 PM
i use one. i started a few months back. i didnt cut myself the forst time but the second i did. thats when i realized that you just have to take your time. and make sure its sharp! i let mine go and it hurts. but i fixed that fast.

to get mine i hunted around and looked for deals. i ended up with to razors one carbon and one satinless a strop and badger brush for under $40, but they came from different places.

Do you have links for the razors?

Thanks.

irrationalsolutions
06-04-2009, 11:39 PM
i can dig up the link for the stainless one i think. the one i like the best is the carbon one. and its the one i didnt think would work at all. i bought it off ebay. thats where i would look first. the handles are really anything but they do work. the blade is good though.

Trekon86
06-05-2009, 11:06 AM
Faol,
I agree w/ IS, go with Ebay. I got both of mine on there (ancient German carbon steel one and a cheapo SS Pakistani piece) on there. Def. check Ebay.
PMZ

Mountain Ron
06-05-2009, 09:00 PM
I use an old Gillette safety razor with double sided blades. One blade will last me months because I figured a good way to sharpen them. I use a new glass microscope slide and some 4 micron diamond paste left over from when I did a thin section mineralogy job. The diamond paste polished the thin sections so they could look at them under a polarizing scope and see what was what. I put just a little dab on the slide and work the blade back and fourth, kind of like sharpening on a hone. I usually get about 6 months from a decent blade.

GreyOne
06-05-2009, 09:12 PM
I use an old Gillette safety razor with double sided blades. One blade will last me months because I figured a good way to sharpen them. I use a new glass microscope slide and some 4 micron diamond paste left over from when I did a thin section mineralogy job. The diamond paste polished the thin sections so they could look at them under a polarizing scope and see what was what. I put just a little dab on the slide and work the blade back and fourth, kind of like sharpening on a hone. I usually get about 6 months from a decent blade.

I have a GEM brand stone made for sharpening safety razors- has a curved surface, you lay the blade on and move it back and forth, the curve is just right to apply the polishing effort to the edges. Works well. Grandad had it in his shaving kit. He also told me that in WW I they sharpened blades inside a glass tumbler or a ceramic coffee mug, same technique. Was very little wasted back then, and razor blades were not a simple disposable item for those of the working class.

smokechoker19
06-05-2009, 09:26 PM
My father was a barber he died in 1969 and i got several of his stright razors his razor hones, arkansas hard and soft stones and his razor strop. his shaving mug he had at the shop and a qunanity of barber soap that fits the bottom of the shaving mug. Once in a while I get it out and strop the razor and soap up with the boars brush and if you want to get perfict shave get a small towel and put it in extreamly hot water then wring it out and drape over the soap you put on your face earlier ans let set on their for 2-3 min while the steam from towel penatrates your beard the take it off and re lather then shave
you never ever will have such a close and comfortable shave. There was a guy that lived 15 miles from dads shop would come down every saturday night after not shaving all week and get a barber shave for sunday. He always said (Charley get out the hoe and mow them down). Dad loved straight razors but you have to use them regulary to get good with them. Smokey mt. knife works have several some built into pocket knives that will work but not good. There real razors for the most part are good.\

LOL Bill

1stcavmp77
06-06-2009, 02:43 PM
i would love to go to a barber shop and get a shave. trouble is i don't know if there are any in my area that do that. anybody tried the hot lather dispenser's they sell nowadays?

180deg Out
06-06-2009, 08:37 PM
Interesting post. I bought my first shaving brush while in boot camp as we had to display them in our footlockers. I still have it and have used it almost daily since 1971. Bought 4 straight razors from what was then called "Smoky Mountain Knife Works." Paid $5.00 each for them in 1980. Gave away a couple and still use the other two. It's probably redundant but the old time barbers kept a towel on their shoulder for a very good reason. Always keep one hand dry to stretch your skin while you shave. Cuts down on knick and cuts. When straight razors say "gotcha", they say it in a deep, resounding voice.

smokechoker19
06-06-2009, 10:25 PM
Oh i forgot one thing as stevec038 said "when they get yea they get you deep.) That is wright for the most part. when you get got always have a STEPTIC pencil or STEPTIC POWDER ready, when you cut youself you wet the pencil and stick it in and rub on the cut and it will quit bleeding. For that matter a steptic pencil is a good tool to have if you shave with any blade the chance that you may nick youself is prety good. The steptic pencil is a great thing to carry in your FIRST AID KIT it will stop bleeding in most cases for any kind of cut. If your as KLUTZEE as me i am always cutting myself or skinning a finger or something. Also beware when appling the steptic pencil it will burn but grin and bear it when its burning its doing good and the bleeding will stop almost at that instant on superfical wounds. You can get a steptic pencil at most drug stores and of couse china-mart in the shaving section.

LOL
Bill

Eagle
06-07-2009, 08:03 AM
My razor doesn't say "gotcha" too often,but when it is close to my ears I swear it keeps whispering :"Gonnagitya,Gonnagitya,Gonnagitya". :D

ArmoredSheepdog
06-07-2009, 08:27 AM
I use only a Vulfix super badger brush with Truefitt and Hill shaving cream. I also got a straight razor but it took too much time for my taste but I just can't give up the brush/cream combo. I did try the solid bar soap that you melt in the mug but the cream is 10 times better IMHO. I get everything from classicshaving.com

You should be able to get a brand new decent razor for around $50, a used on much less but I would send it out to a proper sharpening service first. I never did invest in the stones you need to truly get it sharp enough like the double sided norton. You will get some cuts yes but that's the price of admission my friend. :D

Fess up Koa! What you really do is turn on a copy of Crocodile Dundee while you shave with the RTAK II :D

Sgt. Mac
06-07-2009, 09:34 AM
I have used them before, I had my Grandads which was passed on to me. the one thing I found out about them is that you have to take your time, and keep them very sharp. In todays hustle and bustle world too many dont take, or have the time to go through the whle process of using and up keeping a straight razor. Its the same for most of everything these days guys from mircowaved dinners to disposable lighters. One other note: When taking to my Barber the other day he told me that 1) They dont even teach the use of a straight razor in Barber school any more 2) Barbers who still have the skill are hestitant to use them for fear of knicking some one with the AIDS virus and fear of law suits. Just a shame that another older skill goes by the wayside

Mac

Wook
01-17-2010, 05:58 PM
I considered switching to a straight razor and after some consideration instead switched to a traditional chrome safety razor. The upkeep issue is what put me off a straight razor. The traditional safety razor is still highly regarded, providing a shave that is close to if not equal to the straight razor. It is far superior to modern razors, although you do need to be more careful.

The cartridge razor was invented not because there was anything wrong with the safety razor, but because it is hard to make money selling the blades. By the time Gillette stopped making the safety razor in the 70's there were over 300 competing manufacturers of the generic and therefore unpatentable blades.

However, the patented, copyrighted and relentlessly marketed razors such as the modern Mach 3 have profit margins in the region 1500% per blade. You can see why they prefer them :rolleyes:

My razor:
http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt26/AbrasiveScotsman/DSCF5066.jpg

Ripmyfly
01-17-2010, 07:51 PM
That is a sweet razor Wook.

stillman
01-17-2010, 07:55 PM
I have my grandfather's old straight razor. I also have a beard. So I just look at the razor every now and then and smile because I don't have to put that sharp thing against my neck. (The little bit of trimming I do is with an electric, about once a week.)

tsacain
01-17-2010, 08:13 PM
I will eventually try getting a straight razor. My electric just does not do the job and the disposable razors get really expensive. There is an older Korean man who uses a straight razor to do your edges. The cut looks amazing for a few days but then grows back in the edges. But no other hair cut place around here does that.

Cracker
01-17-2010, 09:48 PM
There was an old filipino on base when I was on active duty that would razor cut hair, one of the best haircuts I have had. When I was younger (19) I tried shaving twice and cut myself twice. Figured shipboard underway with 30 guys tring to get in/out of a small head was not the safest place to have a straight razor. I have been beating it around for a couple years now tring again.

Kerflop
01-18-2010, 12:52 PM
I use classic safety razors, but it is a process. When I first started using them I was use to just throwing canned goo on my face and going to town. The quicker the better... Now I take my time shaving. I have a few different brands of soaps and creames, as well as razors and blades. Check out this site if you want to buy some supplies. John, the owner, is a great guy and with every order he gives you samples of some of his products (which means I end up buying more)...

http://www.shavingessentials.biz/

rattlesnake_wrangler
01-18-2010, 03:12 PM
I considered switching to a straight razor and after some consideration instead switched to a traditional chrome safety razor. The upkeep issue is what put me off a straight razor. The traditional safety razor is still highly regarded, providing a shave that is close to if not equal to the straight razor. It is far superior to modern razors, although you do need to be more careful.

The cartridge razor was invented not because there was anything wrong with the safety razor, but because it is hard to make money selling the blades. By the time Gillette stopped making the safety razor in the 70's there were over 300 competing manufacturers of the generic and therefore unpatentable blades.

However, the patented, copyrighted and relentlessly marketed razors such as the modern Mach 3 have profit margins in the region 1500% per blade. You can see why they prefer them :rolleyes:

My razor:
http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt26/AbrasiveScotsman/DSCF5066.jpgHay just like the one i use

illiteratti
05-05-2010, 02:50 AM
Been using a Feather straight razor for the last 7 years or so. Blades are replaceable, wicked sharp, and need no stropping. Great razor, and they have blades with "training wheels". Even the training blades cut and nick your face if you don't use a feather light touch.

If anyone is interested in Feather razors, traditional straight razors, safety razors, and all accessories, check out classicshaving.com. I have been doing buisness with them for years, they are great people to deal with!

jus_like_that
05-05-2010, 06:25 AM
I've used one for about 3 years now i think, love it. i got my Dovo off ebay with a strop and brush for about $60, I must have saved three times that on razor blades easily. I'd deffinately get hold of a brush though, it makes a big difference and ALWAYS use hot water to soften your beard. The only time i've ever cut myself, is when i'm shaving without a mirror in the workshop or out in the woods. really easy to get used to, and once you practice, its about as quick as a safety razor.

Good luck!

Dano
05-05-2010, 08:21 AM
I've always thought they were cool, and still do. My brother has one and I tried it several years ago....once. I'd have been better off just going into town and donating at the bloodmobile! The only "tip" he offered was, "just remember, there are arteries on BOTH sides of your neck!" I can still hear him laughing........

I almost bought one off ebay once, but...some memories last a lifetime!!!!!!!!!!!

Lil Red
05-05-2010, 08:40 AM
I use one every time I shave...that's why I have a beard! Lol

Easy_rider75
05-05-2010, 10:34 AM
I used to shave but never tried a straight razor before I had asked my girlfriend if she would wanna shave me someday but she likes my beard lol. But anyways when I was shaving my Grandfather used to use the Schick injector razor as an old timer friend of mine did used to do an excellent job for me I always thought it was kinda cool seeing an old straight edge being used in the old movies and such but doubt I would have the trust to let just anyone shave me ya know? One thing I flat outHATE is dime store disposable razors can't stand them for the one fact they are a rip off and don't lsat worth a fiddlers fart lol. Plus the cut the hell out of my face anyway the main reason I stopped shaving plus the fact I like my beard and I am just plain lazy lol.

MoxemDeliph
05-05-2010, 11:37 AM
Im out on this one...I use a Braun 3 series electric shaver. I have a draw to straight razors, but just a regular safety razor screws my face up. I cant imagine a damn straight razor in my hands after a cold can of coke. The term "weed whacker" comes to mind.

On the other hand, those razors are so hard and hold such a wirey thin edge and have such fine lines that they are almost art peices! Maybe I'll get a fine shave this weekend if the local barber (an actual barber) does them worth a damn.

This one has been a good read guys.

Buckskin
05-05-2010, 11:41 AM
I have tried this with two blade throwaway blades and it works. I have some denim stapled to a paint stick and it gets miles out of them. I have been using the same razor for a month now. Normally I would have tossed it in about 2 days.

YouTube - Sharpening Disposable Razor (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3Kxiom83Js)

Lil Red
05-05-2010, 11:46 AM
Im out on this one...I use a Braun 3 series electric shaver. I have a draw to straight razors, but just a regular safety razor screws my face up. I cant imagine a damn straight razor in my hands after a cold can of coke. The term "weed whacker" comes to mind.


Actually, the straight blade is the way to go if you want to AVOID razor burn. Apparently, the multi-bladed counterparts cause the whiskers to stick between them and they pull hair out (ouch!) or on blade will come along and lift the hair a little and the follow-up will cut it too close and create the perfect storm for ingrown hairs.

Eddie
05-05-2010, 01:20 PM
I just started using a straight razor. Just the thought of putting a knife that sharp to my own throat was very daunting...But I got over it. One thing you will notice right away is the after shave...:eek: I felt like the kid on home alone.

wsdstan
05-05-2010, 06:56 PM
I would also suggest that you go with a double edged safety razor. I use one with a good quality brush, shaving oil, and soap. The oil lubricates and cuts down on nicks. There are good used double edge razors on Ebay and in the antique stores. Get a good quality straight razor after you see how you like the double edge. As you know the new straight razors are expensive but good used ones can be had for around $40 to $60. Learn how to sharpen it. If you can get your barber show you how to use it you will be way ahead. I just could not get the hang of it and stayed with double edge blades after using up a good styptic pencil. Double edge blades and good used razors are less expensive and the shave is close. You can get then at Ebay, antique stores, and flea markets. I paid about $15 for an adjustable Gillette razor at a local antique store. I use good quality blades purchased in bulk on Ebay, they last about a week shaving once a day. The oil I make from olive oil, an essential oil like sandalwood or lavender, and a little glycerin. There are a lot of formulas on the net. Using an oil really makes the shave smoother and eliminates the need for aftershave. :D

Gaston
05-05-2010, 08:31 PM
Try watching the Goodwill online auctions, I got my current straight razor there:

http://www.shopgoodwill.com/

That said, I'm much happier with a double edge safety razor. You have to buy good blades that suit your face and beard, though, and pricier doesn't necessarily mean better. I found some Bluebird blades that I like even better than the Merkurs.

Also, you might enjoy the Badger & Blade forum:

http://badgerandblade.com/

Eric_Methven
05-06-2010, 07:39 AM
I bought one of these (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Straight-Cut-Throat-Razor-wooden-handle-hand-made-Round-/110528885583?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_Collectables_Barber_Shop_Collectables_LE&hash=item19bc08f34f) and can highly recommend it. Good piece of kit and a very good price.

Eric