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AlteredMentalStatus
12-04-2010, 07:39 PM
This is the Official location for gear donations for the Vet's at Fort Forgotten!!!!
I need you to list your name and what gear you'll be donating here. To keep from having 20 sleeping bags and other stuff repeated sent to GM please read this list and send gear accordingly.... I was asked by GM to assist
List your Name and then Gear
copy and past the list to your post so all can see.....
You'll PM GM and he'll send you the address!!!!!!!!!!!!

AlteredMentalStatus
12-04-2010, 07:42 PM
also if you are wondering what to send, just think what you would need or want if you where walking a mile in their shoes in the upcoming weather months!!!!

Buckskin
12-04-2010, 07:44 PM
I wish to thank all who donate to these guys. It is a very noble thing you are doing and one I am sure that will be overwhelming to them, but greatly appreciated.

I would love to help, but I am barely hanging on by me teeth and fingernails as it is. When my situation improves I will be happy to add to the second or third wave of relief. In the meantime I am thankful for those who can help them.

IA Woodsman
12-04-2010, 07:44 PM
I am sending


2 waterbottles
cooking gear
some First aid stuff
some clothing

Coverbuster
12-04-2010, 07:45 PM
I have :

$200.00 for food .

Need a place to send it .

I'll include a large tent and some other possibles .

Trekon86
12-04-2010, 07:47 PM
Trek will send:

2 large boxes strike anywhere matches
1 tube of toothpaste
1 6 pack of bar soap
Reading material of various sorts.

PMZ

gloomhound
12-04-2010, 07:50 PM
This is the Official location for gear donations for the Vet's at Fort Forgotten!!!!
I need you to list your name and what gear you'll be donating here. To keep from having 20 sleeping bags and other stuff repeated sent to GM please read this list and send gear accordingly.... I was asked by GM to assist
List your Name and then Gear
copy and past the list to your post so all can see.....
You'll PM GM and he'll send you the address!!!!!!!!!!!!

I want to thank you for the help. It was very kind of you.

Leif
12-04-2010, 08:00 PM
Starting from the top left to right.

2 Methanol Gel stoves.
1 Woodgas stove
Wood bowl/cup
ASK knife w/sheath
1 Pair of size large packable pants
1 Pro force bivi sack
Leather draw string pouch
1 match safe
3 small boxes of strike anywhere matches
1 small OD Green canvas belt possibles pouch

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snakedoctor
12-04-2010, 08:01 PM
Im going to look around see what I got and can send ill do my best! Is there a time frame?

Leif
12-04-2010, 08:01 PM
Rough list so far, copy and paste please:


2 waterbottles
cooking gear
some First aid stuff
some clothing
$200.00 for food .
I'll include a large tent and some other possibles
2 large boxes strike anywhere matches
1 tube of toothpaste
1 6 pack of bar soap
Reading material of various sorts.

Pinebaron
12-04-2010, 08:01 PM
Pinebaron will send:

3 fleece sweaters/jackets
1 wool watchcap
1 scarf
2 Thermarest short sleeping pads
2 ponchos
1 8 x 10 tarp
1 water filter

Leif
12-04-2010, 08:02 PM
Rough list so far, copy and paste please:


2 waterbottles
cooking gear
some First aid stuff
some clothing
$200.00 for food .
I'll include a large tent and some other possibles
2 large boxes strike anywhere matches
1 tube of toothpaste
1 6 pack of bar soap
Reading material of various sorts.
3 fleece sweaters/jackets
1 wool watchcap
1 scarf
2 Thermarest short sleeping pads
2 ponchos
1 8 x 10 tarp
1 water filter

Robert
12-04-2010, 08:09 PM
Man its amazing how many people are willing to give :) I'd send some stuff too, but doubt my parent's would let me :/ Just put me on the list for sending them prayers xD

snakedoctor
12-04-2010, 08:10 PM
JUST MAKING SURE HIS DONATION GOT OVER HERE!


I have 4 surplus wool blankets and a cast iron skillet/frying pan on the way from sportsman's guide to gloomhound.
More efficent than mailing stuff from up here.
Just posting this so we don't duplicate.

AlteredMentalStatus
12-04-2010, 08:10 PM
Thanks Skog, please copy and paste the list. It will be easier to keep up with

snakedoctor
12-04-2010, 08:12 PM
2 waterbottles
cooking gear
some First aid stuff
some clothing
$200.00 for food .
I'll include a large tent and some other possibles
2 large boxes strike anywhere matches
1 tube of toothpaste
1 6 pack of bar soap
Reading material of various sorts.
3 fleece sweaters/jackets
1 wool watchcap
1 scarf
2 Thermarest short sleeping pads
2 ponchos
1 8 x 10 tarp
1 water filter
mattmayhem I have 4 surplus wool blankets and a cast iron skillet/frying pan

SC_Dave
12-04-2010, 08:12 PM
2 waterbottles
cooking gear
some First aid stuff
some clothing
$200.00 for food .
I'll include a large tent and some other possibles
2 large boxes strike anywhere matches
1 tube of toothpaste
1 6 pack of bar soap
Reading material of various sorts.
3 fleece sweaters/jackets
1 wool watchcap
1 scarf
2 Thermarest short sleeping pads
2 ponchos
1 8 x 10 tarp
1 water filter
mattmayhem I have 4 surplus wool blankets and a cast iron skillet/frying pan
1 new in the box coleman tent.
1 pair insulated gloves
1 stainless nester cup
1 maglite flashlight
1 jacket


__________________

AlteredMentalStatus
12-04-2010, 08:18 PM
Remember to copy and paste the list. Also GM is going to check on clothing sizes and shoes but it will b the 6th before he's able to het back to their camp. Also remember that shipping and the holidays.... But this could be an ongoing thing for a couple of months

TwinBlade
12-04-2010, 08:19 PM
I will send a Surefire Flashlight with Malkoff LED drop in, 6 CR123 lithium batteries and a Gerber pruning and folding saw set.

Leif
12-04-2010, 08:19 PM
2 waterbottles
cooking gear
some First aid stuff
some clothing
$200.00 for food .
I'll include a large tent and some other possibles
2 large boxes strike anywhere matches
1 tube of toothpaste
1 6 pack of bar soap
Reading material of various sorts.
3 fleece sweaters/jackets
1 wool watchcap
1 scarf
2 Thermarest short sleeping pads
2 ponchos
1 8 x 10 tarp
1 water filter
mattmayhem I have 4 surplus wool blankets and a cast iron skillet/frying pan
1 new in the box coleman tent.
1 pair insulated gloves
1 stainless nester cup
1 maglite flashlight
1 jacket
2 Methanol Gel stoves.
1 Woodgas stove
Wood bowl/cup
ASK knife w/sheath
1 Pair of size large packable pants
1 Pro force bivi sack
Leather draw string pouch
1 match safe
3 small boxes of strike anywhere matches
1 small OD Green canvas belt possibles pouch

TwinBlade
12-04-2010, 08:21 PM
2 waterbottles
cooking gear
some First aid stuff
some clothing
$200.00 for food .
I'll include a large tent and some other possibles
2 large boxes strike anywhere matches
1 tube of toothpaste
1 6 pack of bar soap
Reading material of various sorts.
3 fleece sweaters/jackets
1 wool watchcap
1 scarf
2 Thermarest short sleeping pads
2 ponchos
1 8 x 10 tarp
1 water filter
mattmayhem I have 4 surplus wool blankets and a cast iron skillet/frying pan
1 new in the box coleman tent.
1 pair insulated gloves
1 stainless nester cup
1 maglite flashlight
1 jacket
2 Methanol Gel stoves.
1 Woodgas stove
Wood bowl/cup
ASK knife w/sheath
1 Pair of size large packable pants
1 Pro force bivi sack
Leather draw string pouch
1 match safe
3 small boxes of strike anywhere matches
1 small OD Green canvas belt possibles pouch
Surefire 6P Flashlight with Malkoff LED drop in
6 CR123 batteries
Gerber pruning and folding saw set

Coverbuster
12-04-2010, 08:28 PM
i'm not bumping this thread to the top , NO , Not me .

Next person who donates 50 bucks for food gets an NOS Airforce Survival Knife . from me .

Time is 1928 Mountain Time .

AlteredMentalStatus
12-04-2010, 08:28 PM
This needs to be stretched out over the next few months, remember have to think where GM is going to keep all the gear, and he has to carry all this to them. Also remember that these guys will have to have place to keep all this

mattmayhem
12-04-2010, 08:31 PM
This needs to be stretched out over the next few months, remember have to think where GM is going to keep all the gear, and he has to carry all this to them. Also remember that these guys will have to have place to keep all this

Dont forget gloomhound said in the other thread he isin't really comfortable with the money. Maybe we should let him decide in respect to that.

Gift certificates for chain grocery stores maybe?

Into The Outdoors
12-04-2010, 08:35 PM
This is what the wife and I are sending. Anything not needed at 'Fort Forgotten' can go to a local charity.

Fire kit
3 books
2 wool scarves
2 D Cell Mag light
2 rolls toilet paper
2 bars Ivory soap
2 toothbrushes
First aid supplies
Hand lotion
Duct tape
50' 550 cord
6'X8' tarp
Small buck knife
Mora knife
2 ramen noodles
Chicken fried rice
1 box of noodles
Pouch of tuna
2 cans soup
2 cans veggies
Drink mixes

Coverbuster
12-04-2010, 08:37 PM
This needs to be stretched out over the next few months, remember have to think where GM is going to keep all the gear, and he has to carry all this to them. Also remember that these guys will have to have place to keep all this


I second this , these guys aint camping for the fun of it , stuff that helps get them on their feet is also important . Hows about checking to see if they have a prepaid cell phone ?? That could go a long way , I would hire a stinky guy willing to work over the slouch welder we have now . Its also the Holydays , these guys might want to get ahold of loved ones ..................

AlteredMentalStatus
12-04-2010, 08:37 PM
If you are planning on sending funds please contact GM first he really does not want to handle funds . Maybe do something like. Gift card or something so they can by food or something

Trekon86
12-04-2010, 08:38 PM
I have the box almost ready to go, just need to close it up and put an addy on it.
I included some extras, little things that I think they will appreciate, like AA and AAA batteries, dental floss, tissues, and a bag of coffee.
PMZ

gloomhound
12-04-2010, 08:39 PM
It's amazing to see how much you guys are wanting to help it does my tired old heart good. :)
But please don't send anything until it's cleared by me. I don't want to overwhelm them with too much gear to quickly also I don't want to waste anyones generosity. :(

Edit to add: I would be glad to pass along gift cards to any of our local stores.

TwinBlade
12-04-2010, 08:40 PM
What is included in the "some fist aid stuff"?

I have some single use ice packs and Ibuprofen that I can send too.

Coverbuster
12-04-2010, 08:44 PM
It's amazing to see how much you guys are wanting to help it does my tired old heart good. :)
But please don't send anything until it's cleared by me. I don't want to overwhelm them with too much gear to quickly also I don't want to waste anyones generosity. :(

Edit to add: I would be glad to pass along gift cards to any of our local stores.

Per PM , buzz me Sun......................

Into The Outdoors
12-04-2010, 08:49 PM
We should have packing labels attached to the boxes so they can be organized easier without opening.

gloomhound
12-04-2010, 09:00 PM
Another thing to keep in mind is the seasonality of the items you are wanting to send. (i.e. what is a good tent to try and winter over in the mountains of West Virginia) Also if you send an item and in the event that they can't use it we need to make arrangements to get that gear back to you. Just something to keep in mind.

TwinBlade
12-04-2010, 09:02 PM
I seriously doubt anyone in here would take exception to paying the return freight costs if it came down to that. I know for a fact I wouldn't mind. :)

mainewoods
12-04-2010, 09:05 PM
I Like to Send a $2o for a gift card Who do I send it to? and When? please Pm me

solocanoe
12-04-2010, 09:05 PM
So I wonder if that "sportz truck tent" is worth it to send??? the one I [posted in the other thread. anyone?

But I will be sending:
a new Katadyn Base Camp water filter set up
a set of camp mugs and camp coffee pot
some glove liners and gloves - wool hats - issue stuff

awesome to see this thread grow guys. :)

-john (solo)

Chief036
12-04-2010, 09:07 PM
It's amazing to see how much you guys are wanting to help it does my tired old heart good. :)
But please don't send anything until it's cleared by me. I don't want to overwhelm them with too much gear to quickly also I don't want to waste anyones generosity. :(

Edit to add: I would be glad to pass along gift cards to any of our local stores.

Just judging by the overwhelming response so for, you're going to be overloaded with good stuff. As someone mentioned, this situation with our vets could last all winter, so instead of sending anything now, I'm going to hold off for awhile, and pick up the slack with whatever's needed down the road in the next few months.

In the meantime, should one of these fellows get sick or hurt, and need medical attention, I'll be your fallback guy to help pay for it.

It's a good thing you're doing GH, and I want to be a part of it.

solocanoe
12-04-2010, 09:09 PM
We should have packing labels attached to the boxes so they can be organized easier without opening.

that's a good idea, man - I'll add a homemade one under plastic to my box.

Into The Outdoors
12-04-2010, 09:10 PM
I seriously doubt anyone in here would take exception to paying the return freight costs if it came down to that. I know for a fact I wouldn't mind. :)

Anything not needed of mine will be donated to charity down there, someone will need it.

Iz
12-04-2010, 09:29 PM
I can't keep up with this thing and what's going out and what isn't so I'll just put this here for reference.
I'd like to send:
A usgi folding shovel
Bible
Shelters, shacks and shanties

Gloom I don't want to run you in circles so I won't pm you.
Is there anyway we can get a po box or something to send this to and just post the address in the thread for everyone to see?
Good stuff, guys.
Iz

gloomhound
12-04-2010, 09:41 PM
I'm working on a list of local stores to put on a list for those that wish to send gift cards.

What kind of stores should be on that list?

Please keep in mind that even though I live near the state capital of Charleston it is still a rather rural area and the number and type of stores they might be able to access even with my help will be limited.

AlteredMentalStatus
12-04-2010, 09:48 PM
Ok, copy and paste what your sending and how you are willing to help these vets out. If you would please attach some sort of packing list so this will be easy on GM. Also please put a note on what to do with the contents of your package so as if it's not needed or wanted he'll know what to do with your gear. Please copy and paste so there is only one list. Also I'm going to het a list of stores from him so as you know where gift cards can be used . Also remember this can go for a few months

rogumpogum
12-04-2010, 10:06 PM
I wish I was able to help with some money, but I'm hemorrhaging it like crazy this time of year. As for gear, I don't have anything that others haven't already offered. I'll try to find something.

They're still getting my prayers, though.

solocanoe
12-04-2010, 10:09 PM
I don't know what you mean by copy and paste???
someone please feel free to put my things on the list, please.

snakedoctor
12-04-2010, 10:14 PM
I think I got it all!

2 wool scarves
2 D Cell Mag light
2 rolls toilet paper
2 bars Ivory soap
2 toothbrushes
First aid supplies
Hand lotion
Duct tape
50' 550 cord
6'X8' tarp
Small buck knife
Mora knife
2 ramen noodles
Chicken fried rice
1 box of noodles
Pouch of tuna
2 cans soup
2 cans veggies
Drink mixes
a new Katadyn Base Camp water filter set up
a set of camp mugs and camp coffee pot
some glove liners and gloves - wool hats - issue stuff
A usgi folding shovel
Bible
Shelters, shacks and shanties

Victor
12-04-2010, 10:17 PM
I will give them a gift card, from a box store just so they can use it for food, clothing, or what not. I think that would be best for them after seeing all the gear others are giving.
Victor

TwinBlade
12-04-2010, 10:18 PM
I think I got it all!

2 wool scarves
2 D Cell Mag light
2 rolls toilet paper
2 bars Ivory soap
2 toothbrushes
First aid supplies
Hand lotion
Duct tape
50' 550 cord
6'X8' tarp
Small buck knife
Mora knife
2 ramen noodles
Chicken fried rice
1 box of noodles
Pouch of tuna
2 cans soup
2 cans veggies
Drink mixes
a new Katadyn Base Camp water filter set up
a set of camp mugs and camp coffee pot
some glove liners and gloves - wool hats - issue stuff
A usgi folding shovel
Bible
Shelters, shacks and shanties
And add this. :D

2 waterbottles
cooking gear
some First aid stuff
some clothing
$200.00 for food .
I'll include a large tent and some other possibles
2 large boxes strike anywhere matches
1 tube of toothpaste
1 6 pack of bar soap
Reading material of various sorts.
3 fleece sweaters/jackets
1 wool watchcap
1 scarf
2 Thermarest short sleeping pads
2 ponchos
1 8 x 10 tarp
1 water filter
mattmayhem I have 4 surplus wool blankets and a cast iron skillet/frying pan
1 new in the box coleman tent.
1 pair insulated gloves
1 stainless nester cup
1 maglite flashlight
1 jacket
2 Methanol Gel stoves.
1 Woodgas stove
Wood bowl/cup
ASK knife w/sheath
1 Pair of size large packable pants
1 Pro force bivi sack
Leather draw string pouch
1 match safe
3 small boxes of strike anywhere matches
1 small OD Green canvas belt possibles pouch
Surefire 6P Flashlight with Malkoff LED drop in
6 CR123 batteries
Gerber pruning and folding saw set

snakedoctor
12-04-2010, 10:18 PM
2 wool scarves
2 D Cell Mag light
2 rolls toilet paper
2 bars Ivory soap
2 toothbrushes
First aid supplies
Hand lotion
Duct tape
50' 550 cord
6'X8' tarp
Small buck knife
Mora knife
2 ramen noodles
Chicken fried rice
1 box of noodles
Pouch of tuna
2 cans soup
2 cans veggies
Drink mixes
a new Katadyn Base Camp water filter set up
a set of camp mugs and camp coffee pot
some glove liners and gloves - wool hats - issue stuff
A usgi folding shovel
Bible
Shelters, shacks and shanties
gift card, from a box store

Ace
12-04-2010, 10:18 PM
Looks like everything I was planning on sending is pretty much already covered. I'm waiting to hear what stores are in the area so I can send a gift card. I'm thinking that a wally world card would be greatly appreciated by these men.

snakedoctor
12-04-2010, 10:19 PM
Copy this list then paste it and add your item(s) at the bottom so others know what is already here!


2 waterbottles
cooking gear
some First aid stuff
some clothing
$200.00 for food .
I'll include a large tent and some other possibles
2 large boxes strike anywhere matches
1 tube of toothpaste
1 6 pack of bar soap
Reading material of various sorts.
3 fleece sweaters/jackets
1 wool watchcap
1 scarf
2 Thermarest short sleeping pads
2 ponchos
1 8 x 10 tarp
1 water filter
mattmayhem I have 4 surplus wool blankets and a cast iron skillet/frying pan
1 new in the box coleman tent.
1 pair insulated gloves
1 stainless nester cup
1 maglite flashlight
1 jacket
2 Methanol Gel stoves.
1 Woodgas stove
Wood bowl/cup
ASK knife w/sheath
1 Pair of size large packable pants
1 Pro force bivi sack
Leather draw string pouch
1 match safe
3 small boxes of strike anywhere matches
1 small OD Green canvas belt possibles pouch
Surefire 6P Flashlight with Malkoff LED drop in
6 CR123 batteries
Gerber pruning and folding saw set
2 wool scarves
2 D Cell Mag light
2 rolls toilet paper
2 bars Ivory soap
2 toothbrushes
First aid supplies
Hand lotion
Duct tape
50' 550 cord
6'X8' tarp
Small buck knife
Mora knife
2 ramen noodles
Chicken fried rice
1 box of noodles
Pouch of tuna
2 cans soup
2 cans veggies
Drink mixes
a new Katadyn Base Camp water filter set up
a set of camp mugs and camp coffee pot
some glove liners and gloves - wool hats - issue stuff
A usgi folding shovel
Bible
Shelters, shacks and shanties
gift card, from a box store

Old Philosopher
12-04-2010, 10:23 PM
It's amazing to see how much you guys are wanting to help it does my tired old heart good. :)
But please don't send anything until it's cleared by me. I don't want to overwhelm them with too much gear to quickly also I don't want to waste anyones generosity. :(

Edit to add: I would be glad to pass along gift cards to any of our local stores.
Good plan, GH. These guys are out there, asking for nothing and being as self-sufficient. Some people with a lot of pride can fail to see the difference between heartfelt generous caring, and pity.

gloomhound
12-04-2010, 10:35 PM
Looks like everything I was planning on sending is pretty much already covered. I'm waiting to hear what stores are in the area so I can send a gift card. I'm thinking that a wally world card would be greatly appreciated by these men.

Wal-mart is the closest store that has gift-cards it's a a strip-mall with a few other stores, hardware, sporting goods, pet shops etc. The next closest is a another strip-mall with a Kmart and Krogers. I'm not sure if the Krogers has giftcards and it's a good bit further down the road.

I hope this helps. :)

northstar
12-04-2010, 10:38 PM
I'll donate a $25.00 gift card for Home Depot. Maybe you can get a local church or Boy Scout Troop or even a local VFW, American Legion to help out. I'm sure you'll let us know where to send stuff.Thanks and God Bless.

Tony

Ace
12-04-2010, 10:59 PM
Good to hear it. Please shoot me a pm with an addy and I'll be glad to send a gift card.

Marsh
12-04-2010, 11:12 PM
AN IDEA LIST ONLY:

Shampoos
deoderants
Clothes washing soaps
washclothes, towels,potholders
Vitamins
Mirrors
Nail clippers
Cooler to keep foods in?
Large tub/buckets for washing?
wool socks
long underwear
more toiliet paper
Dried fruit
Jerky
dried milk
chocolate :)
Hard candy
Can opener?
utensils
duct tape
shaving cream/razors
Storage containers for foodstuffs?
anything musical? (music is good for the soul)
radio? and batteries


I see folks wondering what to send so I tried to help with a list of ideas.

Marsh

Old Philosopher
12-04-2010, 11:21 PM
I'm working on a list of local stores to put on a list for those that wish to send gift cards.

What kind of stores should be on that list?

Please keep in mind that even though I live near the state capital of Charleston it is still a rather rural area and the number and type of stores they might be able to access even with my help will be limited.

Just a thought...
Our high school has a card they sell to raise funds for athletic programs. It's not a "gift" card, but what they do is get local merchants to honor discounts to folks who present the card. Some of these discounts are significant, like a 2-for-1 lunch deal, or 20% off groceries over $10. GH, you might check to see if anything like that is available to use in your rural area, besides big chain stores.

karlsefni01
12-05-2010, 09:44 AM
Been thinking about this since last night. Before deciding what to send, Gloomhound, on your next trip out to see them would you mind finding out what sort of skills these guys have? I mean, I'd like to send them something that might enable them to get some work, whether it's tools for carvings they make and sell or traps for harvesting furs.

It seems their short term survival needs have been met by the generosity of the rest of you. I'd like to contribute something that will enable them to make some cash on their own.

red elm
12-05-2010, 11:04 AM
2 waterbottles
cooking gear
some First aid stuff
some clothing
$200.00 for food .
I'll include a large tent and some other possibles
2 large boxes strike anywhere matches
1 tube of toothpaste
1 6 pack of bar soap
Reading material of various sorts.
3 fleece sweaters/jackets
1 wool watchcap
1 scarf
2 Thermarest short sleeping pads
2 ponchos
1 8 x 10 tarp
1 water filter
mattmayhem I have 4 surplus wool blankets and a cast iron skillet/frying pan
1 new in the box coleman tent.
1 pair insulated gloves
1 stainless nester cup
1 maglite flashlight
1 jacket
2 Methanol Gel stoves.
1 Woodgas stove
Wood bowl/cup
ASK knife w/sheath
1 Pair of size large packable pants
1 Pro force bivi sack
Leather draw string pouch
1 match safe
3 small boxes of strike anywhere matches
1 small OD Green canvas belt possibles pouch
Surefire 6P Flashlight with Malkoff LED drop in
6 CR123 batteries
Gerber pruning and folding saw set
2 wool scarves
2 D Cell Mag light
2 rolls toilet paper
2 bars Ivory soap
2 toothbrushes
First aid supplies
Hand lotion
Duct tape
50' 550 cord
6'X8' tarp
Small buck knife
Mora knife
2 ramen noodles
Chicken fried rice
1 box of noodles
Pouch of tuna
2 cans soup
2 cans veggies
Drink mixes
a new Katadyn Base Camp water filter set up
a set of camp mugs and camp coffee pot
some glove liners and gloves - wool hats - issue stuff
A usgi folding shovel
Bible
Shelters, shacks and shanties
gift card, from a box store
2 alice Packs for the gear

I'll donate a coupld of alice packs for the gear just incase they have to move. They will eventually and they will need some way to move camp. I'm also in for some gift cards for WW or Krogers if close enough.

blackdog3
12-05-2010, 11:29 AM
Glad to send a gift card what the best store? Who do I sent it to?. It will be in the mail by tomorrow.

mainewoods
12-05-2010, 11:41 AM
2 waterbottles
cooking gear
some First aid stuff
some clothing
$200.00 for food .
I'll include a large tent and some other possibles
2 large boxes strike anywhere matches
1 tube of toothpaste
1 6 pack of bar soap
Reading material of various sorts.
3 fleece sweaters/jackets
1 wool watchcap
1 scarf
2 Thermarest short sleeping pads
2 ponchos
1 8 x 10 tarp
1 water filter
mattmayhem I have 4 surplus wool blankets and a cast iron skillet/frying pan
1 new in the box coleman tent.
1 pair insulated gloves
1 stainless nester cup
1 maglite flashlight
1 jacket
2 Methanol Gel stoves.
1 Woodgas stove
Wood bowl/cup
ASK knife w/sheath
1 Pair of size large packable pants
1 Pro force bivi sack
Leather draw string pouch
1 match safe
3 small boxes of strike anywhere matches
1 small OD Green canvas belt possibles pouch
Surefire 6P Flashlight with Malkoff LED drop in
6 CR123 batteries
Gerber pruning and folding saw set
2 wool scarves
2 D Cell Mag light
2 rolls toilet paper
2 bars Ivory soap
2 toothbrushes
First aid supplies
Hand lotion
Duct tape
50' 550 cord
6'X8' tarp
Small buck knife
Mora knife
2 ramen noodles
Chicken fried rice
1 box of noodles
Pouch of tuna
2 cans soup
2 cans veggies
Drink mixes
a new Katadyn Base Camp water filter set up
a set of camp mugs and camp coffee pot
some glove liners and gloves - wool hats - issue stuff
A usgi folding shovel
Bible
Shelters, shacks and shanties
gift card, from a box store
2 alice Packs for the gear

My Wife and I are going to send $20 towards a gift card! and will Send More down the road when needed We Thank You All and God Bless You All!!

gloomhound
12-05-2010, 12:04 PM
One more quick point. Everything that you guys are going to send needs to be in transient by the 17th of January to ensure that it arrives before February the 5th. Because as my wife pointed out last night, I'm going to be out of town for the rest of the month and my small rural post office will not be able to store anything for that length of time.

gloomhound
12-05-2010, 12:49 PM
A number of people have asked about giving gift cards and wanted to know what stores would be good ones to get a card from. So I sat down and made this list of stores that both had giftcards (that I know of) and that were at all close enough. Stores marked with a (+) are closer the ones marked with a (-) are further away and the ones not marked are in between. None of these stores are very close (the only thing I would say that is near by is a small Smith's grocery store and a gas station) but they are with in doable range.

Walmart+
Homedepot+
Lowes
Dick's Sportingoods
Target
Kmart-
Krogers-
Gander Mountain+


Also I left a number of stores off the list (Office Max, Staples etc) due to the fact that I don't think any goods from there would be of direct use to them.

If you can think of any stores that I did not include on the list that might be in this area please let me know and I will check to see if they are. :)

Old Philosopher
12-05-2010, 01:14 PM
I would think WalMart would be a good one, especially if the store is one that sells groceries. I don't think WalMart limits what you can buy with one of their "cash cards".

gloomhound
12-05-2010, 01:17 PM
I would think WalMart would be a good one, especially if the store is one that sells groceries. I don't think WalMart limits what you can buy with one of their "cash cards".

It does sell food and I don't know about the gift card from there I've never dealt with one.

Old Philosopher
12-05-2010, 01:20 PM
It does sell food and I don't know about the gift card from there I've never dealt with one.
I'm pretty sure it's an "in-house credit card". I think they sell them in $25 increments.

Valcas1
12-05-2010, 01:23 PM
I also think you can get a Visa gift card that they could use at any merchant that accepts Visa.

gloomhound
12-05-2010, 01:27 PM
I don't know much about them. I'm kinda a cash only guy, it keeps me out of trouble with the wife, but I will be glad to pass along what ever you send to them.

mattmayhem
12-05-2010, 02:05 PM
Thinking about the inhabitants of fort forgotten today. Its flippin' cold here and its not even full winter yet. I hope its warmer down there.
The wind is killer.
Keep us posted with things on the ground gloomhound.
Looking forward to updates.

Ace
12-05-2010, 05:46 PM
Walmart does sell a visa card that is reloadable and you can use anywhere that accepts visa including online. I think it can be reloaded on line from a bank account too if I'm not mistaken.

TwinBlade
12-05-2010, 06:36 PM
I am certain there was a bombardment of PM's regarding where to send the goods, but was there a PO Box possibility to save your mailbox?

I assume you will hold off to let us know what we should send until after you get a feel for these gentlemen and their willingness to accept...

gloomhound
12-06-2010, 11:28 AM
Thinking about the inhabitants of fort forgotten today. Its flippin' cold here and its not even full winter yet. I hope its warmer down there.
The wind is killer.
Keep us posted with things on the ground gloomhound.
Looking forward to updates.

it's snowed the past three days and is in the low 20's around here.

gloomhound
12-06-2010, 11:43 AM
http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p105/wbargo/snap.jpg

It just gets better and better.

Ace
12-06-2010, 11:48 AM
Damn hope our brothers there are warm enough. Do they have a way to heat their shelter or do they just have to huddle up with blankets or something?

JEB
12-06-2010, 11:49 AM
I thought I asked this question earlier but couldn't find it. What is and who are the Forgotten Vets. Where are they located? I guess in general what is this fund raiser all about?

Thanks
Jon

Ace
12-06-2010, 11:57 AM
I thought I asked this question earlier but couldn't find it. What is and who are the Forgotten Vets. Where are they located? I guess in general what is this fund raiser all about?

Thanks
Jon

http://bushcraftusa.com/forum/showthread.php?t=24266

Here's a link to the original thread.

gloomhound
12-06-2010, 12:02 PM
Damn hope our brothers there are warm enough. Do they have a way to heat their shelter or do they just have to huddle up with blankets or something?

I took them out a propane tent heater with 4 propane cartridges on Saturday, and they have a number of blankets and at least one sleeping bag. They also burn a fire in front of their shelter so I believe they should be ok.

mattmayhem
12-06-2010, 01:38 PM
I guess in general what is this fund raiser all about?

Thanks
Jon

No fund raiser. A bunch of people got pissed off about a situation that should not exist and decided to make it right.

These guys are lucky enough to have gloomhound as their neigbour.

Sgt. Mac
12-06-2010, 01:57 PM
Damn hope our brothers there are warm enough. Do they have a way to heat their shelter or do they just have to huddle up with blankets or something?

Brothers? Are you a Veteran Ace? When and who were you with?

Ace
12-06-2010, 02:14 PM
Brothers? Are you a Veteran Ace? When and who were you with?

Yes I'm an army vet. Got out in 05

Sgt. Mac
12-06-2010, 02:15 PM
What was your MOS?

Ace
12-06-2010, 02:16 PM
Supply.

solocanoe
12-06-2010, 02:31 PM
hopefully to put this thread back on point and away from controversy....

I'm gonna try to get my box out today, GH.

mattmayhem
12-06-2010, 02:52 PM
My package is shipping out of sportsman's guide today also.

JEB
12-06-2010, 06:01 PM
mattmayhem, fundraiser was used for a lack of a better word. I am sorry I didn't see the original post and of course if I did I wouldn't have asked the questions.

Lets put all this energy in helping these guys!

Just so you know where I am coming from when it comes to helping VETs go to the Michigan Longbow web site and see archery in Iraq. Thats us.

Jon Stewart

TwinBlade
12-06-2010, 11:27 PM
Perhaps I missed the address to ship my box to.

gloomhound
12-07-2010, 12:16 AM
Perhaps I missed the address to ship my box to.


Pm sent, and I'm sorry if you had asked for it and I failed to reply.

TwinBlade
12-07-2010, 12:57 AM
Shoot. No apology needed. I saw some folks sending boxes out and thought I missed something.

Your work in all of this deserves a commendation.

Ace
12-07-2010, 01:30 AM
I also didn't get the address. I understand you've been swamped with this and it is a great and noble undertaking that I hope will not go unappreciated by anyone. Again thank you for providing a way to help our brothers out.

gloomhound
12-07-2010, 01:33 AM
No Sir no commendations for me.

I ain't doing nothing none of you folks would not do if you were put in my place. All I'm doing is going to the post office then packing what you folks send to the camp. In my book you are the ones doing the heavy lifting not me.

Ace
12-07-2010, 01:36 AM
You're still a great man in my book GH. Without you we would never have known about these men and who knows what might have happened to them.

scoutsurvivor
12-07-2010, 09:11 AM
Uh, guys, not to rain on the parade here, but watch your postal regs... last I checked, anything flammable (matches, gel fuel, etc.) wasn't shippable. My main branch here locally checks all packages before they're sealed up for hazmat. Don't know what the P. O. does your way, but just exercise caution, don't want anyone getting into trouble or getting inconvenienced in their desire to render assistance.

snakedoctor
12-07-2010, 09:18 AM
Since allot of the needs are already met and I'm unsure of what to send. I know a hot shower always helps my mood.

So I'm going to try to get a solar shower and send it to you GH only IF you think this is something would could and like to use. I don't know your area and the local gyms and what have you but tat cost money too so if you think let me know and ill get on it as soon as I can.

TwinBlade
12-07-2010, 11:54 AM
Package en route. :dblthumb:

IA Woodsman
12-07-2010, 12:30 PM
Package sent

gloomhound
12-07-2010, 01:28 PM
Since allot of the needs are already met and I'm unsure of what to send. I know a hot shower always helps my mood.

So I'm going to try to get a solar shower and send it to you GH only IF you think this is something would could and like to use. I don't know your area and the local gyms and what have you but tat cost money too so if you think let me know and ill get on it as soon as I can.

Thank you for the thought but it's not really solar shower weather around here, we are also lacking in the local gym department. Still like I said the thought is what counts.

snakedoctor
12-07-2010, 01:48 PM
Thank you for the thought but it's not really solar shower weather around here, we are also lacking in the local gym department. Still like I said the thought is what counts.

I know its unseasonably cold right now and it will be getting colder soon. I was thinking more for comfort and hygiene instead of the old "spot wash" but I see your point. Ill keep checking on what I can do

HumanPackMule
12-07-2010, 03:02 PM
Still taking supplies? I have a whole case, around 24, of ramen noodle cups just sitting in my basement. PM me if you want em.

gloomhound
12-07-2010, 09:51 PM
Still taking supplies? I have a whole case, around 24, of ramen noodle cups just sitting in my basement. PM me if you want em.

Sure if you want to send them I would be happy to pass them along.

mattmayhem
12-08-2010, 09:02 PM
GH,
judging by tracking on UPS my package should be there anytime now.

Dennis
12-09-2010, 09:25 AM
Man what a list I only got one of these wish I had two but will be sending it when I get the address. Showing pic so maybe someone will have another one they don't need. These parkas are very warm.

http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m272/cjweaver73/Outdoors/353fbcc4.jpg

snakedoctor
12-09-2010, 09:28 AM
What about boots? Shoe size do they have good ones ?

Pinebaron
12-09-2010, 09:41 AM
Man what a list I only got one of these wish I had two but will be sending it when I get the address. Showing pic so maybe someone will have another one they don't need. These parkas are very warm.

http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m272/cjweaver73/Outdoors/353fbcc4.jpg

+1 N3B, Had one...very warm.

gloomhound
12-09-2010, 02:23 PM
Received and delivered three packages today. I just got back home and I will post a longer post with pictures shortly.

gloomhound
12-09-2010, 05:11 PM
Well today was productive. I got a call this morning that I could get a key to gate that would allow me to drive the truck a lot closer to the camp and save me a ton of packing and that turned out to be a good thing because when I got to the Post Office I had three boxes waiting for pickup! There was a hanging water filter, a coffee pot and coffee, 4 wool blankets, 12" cast Iron skillet, rain gear, boxes of matches tea lights and..... well way to much for me to lists. The guys were very happy to see me and the gear I brought. I brought them a bit of grub and a few packs of cigarettes that a friend had left over here at my house a few years ago.

It was really cold and camping down in a valley next to water source is a great way to ensure that it's going to be even colder but they seem to be doing ok. They really appreciated the gear and goods and I told them about you guys from BushcraftUSA and all the well wishes and help you were providing. When I asked them what they might need I got the "old same old same old" but here is what I saw. Fuel is a struggle and I will have to get them some propane before the next storm front blows in here the weekend. Their gear is wearing out and breaking down which is what happens when you use it all the time. Stuff just wears out. They also seemed tired, living outdoors in this kinda weather is hard work.

That's all I can think of at the moment I'm going to get a bite to eat but if anyone has any questions I would be glad to answer them in a few.

Oh one last thing to the guys that sent the packages that I picked up today.

You are my heroes.

You helped someone out of the goodness of your heart. No one else may ever know your works and deeds but I will and I will never forget.

Thank You.


This is Michael & John

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p105/wbargo/DSCF0050.jpg


Here is a shot of the tent they are using along with a late breakfast I brought out.
http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p105/wbargo/DSCF0053.jpg


The fire pit with a story that goes along with it and a warning.
http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p105/wbargo/DSCF0056.jpg


Be careful when selecting rocks near a stream for use around a fire because they might just explode like this one did.
http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p105/wbargo/DSCF0069-1.jpg


Water source
http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p105/wbargo/DSCF0057.jpg


Here are a few gear photos
http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p105/wbargo/DSCF0064.jpg


Axe
http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p105/wbargo/DSCF0066-1.jpg


folding shovel
http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p105/wbargo/DSCF0063-3.jpg


Knife (That's my fat mitt in the picture by the way.)
http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p105/wbargo/DSCF0062.jpg

Flag
http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p105/wbargo/DSCF0059.jpg

scoutsurvivor
12-09-2010, 05:25 PM
Guys, we're forgetting the other key player in this: the landowner. Whoever it is deserves a pat on the back. A lot of landowners would've run these fellas off without batting an eye. This one gave GH a key for easier access to our Vets. Little things add up to big things and can mean just as much.

Leif
12-09-2010, 05:27 PM
I will get my box out by Saturday at the latest! Thanks for the updates Gloom!

Old Philosopher
12-09-2010, 05:32 PM
I'm not in a position, but it looks like they'd be prime candidates for someone's rusty ol' Eastwing. UPS will deliver anything. ;) Unfortunately, their shovel is in better shape than mine. :p

Gloomhound...you are a prince among men!

http://www.datingseniormen.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/Milo-salute-cartoon.gif

mattmayhem
12-09-2010, 05:36 PM
The most inspiring story I have seen in a long time.

Basic but well kept camp indeed.
Are they on the side of a fairly major road? I see gaurdrail and road signs up the embankment. Do they have permission to relocate to a better/safer location on that land?

What can be done to sort out a more sturdy shelter? Anyone know what a 5 man army tent with a stove would run us to buy and have shipped to GH?

Ace
12-09-2010, 05:42 PM
Is it just me or should that ax handle be replaced? Also it's pretty obvious to me that they should have a better shovel.

gloomhound
12-09-2010, 05:50 PM
The most inspiring story I have seen in a long time.

Basic but well kept camp indeed.
Are they on the side of a fairly major road? I see gaurdrail and road signs up the embankment. Do they have permission to relocate to a better/safer location on that land?

What can be done to sort out a more sturdy shelter? Anyone know what a 5 man army tent with a stove would run us to buy and have shipped to GH?


That would be an Interstate and it's not as near as it seems in the photo. Where they are camping is on a triangular patch of private land that is mostly marsh. It is sandwiched in between state land and the interstate highway right of way. Trust me where they are camped at is about the best they can do on this site.

A good tent would be a God sent.

mattmayhem
12-09-2010, 06:03 PM
Any idea what their clothing sizes are?

Sgt. Mac
12-09-2010, 06:07 PM
Is it just me or should that ax handle be replaced? Also it's pretty obvious to me that they should have a better shovel.

No it's just you Ace lol. ;)

DCM
12-09-2010, 06:23 PM
Is it still okay to send things? Am I still in time? I have a portable three burner propane stove that has been hardly used, some nice heavy wool blankets, Pendleton style, a couple of cots and about 4 or 5 kerosene hurricane lamps that I can send with some extra wicks. I also have about 6 to 8 rubbermaid 5 gallon size totes and a couple of military style shovels, one has a saw in the handle. I have a nice collapsible but very sturdy charcoal grill. If there is any need for additional coats? give me the sizes and I will look into getting some either Carhart or Dickies style quilted coats. I have a brand new box of Lewis and Clark cast iron cookware with skillet and dutch oven if needed. I have acquired a few knives over the years and have some either Mora's and Case folders along with some sharpening equipment, I would like to contribute. I could easily compete in the Olympic level gear ##### events. Would love to see this go to such a good cause. I am just sorry I did not notice this thread before now. Please let me know what I need to do and if I can still get this to you.

gloomhound
12-09-2010, 06:26 PM
Any idea what their clothing sizes are?

Big ;)

These are not small men I'm going to guess they are my size for one and perhaps a tad smaller for the other. :o

Ace
12-09-2010, 06:41 PM
Too bad we can't send them one of these.

http://www.rddusa.com/Arctic-tent-10-man-tent-Military-Tent-Army-Tent-Military-Surplus-Army-Surplus-Tents-used-tents.aspx

TwinBlade
12-09-2010, 07:30 PM
Too bad we can't send them one of these.

http://www.rddusa.com/Arctic-tent-10-man-tent-Military-Tent-Army-Tent-Military-Surplus-Army-Surplus-Tents-used-tents.aspx

I don't see why we couldn't. I have organized bigger fund raisers than this on other forums. I will start a donation thread when I get off work tonight and contact the supplier regarding helping a worthy cause and possibly discounting a USA made product for USA vets.

You all have about 4 hours to come up with a final tent offering for these gents before we get this ball rolling.

Jeff

Sent from my iphone

gloomhound
12-09-2010, 08:05 PM
If and I mean if you guys decided to go this route please keep in mind that these are two men afoot. As I recall this tent is rather large and takes a squad to set up. I think that there are better canvas tents that would give good service and cost less.

Just something to keep in mind.

mattmayhem
12-09-2010, 08:07 PM
I don't see why we couldn't. I have organized bigger fund raisers than this on other forums. I will start a donation thread when I get off work tonight and contact the supplier regarding helping a worthy cause and possibly discounting a USA made product for USA vets.

You all have about 4 hours to come up with a final tent offering for these gents before we get this ball rolling.

Jeff

Sent from my iphone


http://www.calarmy.com/tents/

These guys have the 5 man arctic tent for 325...i think it would be more reasonable (size wise).
They would need a stove too.

Would this work:
http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/new-us-military-new-style-arctic-stove.aspx?a=733412
Is there more reasonably priced ones avalible?

Also this:
http://www.armysurpluswarehouse.com/product/great-northern-camp-stove-3214.cfm

GH is the clothing size a large or xl?

unswydd
12-09-2010, 08:19 PM
http://www.calarmy.com/tents/

These guys have the 5 man arctic tent for 325...i think it would be more reasonable (size wise).
They would need a stove too.

Would this work:
http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/new-us-military-new-style-arctic-stove.aspx?a=733412
Is there more reasonably priced ones avalible?

Also this:
http://www.armysurpluswarehouse.com/product/great-northern-camp-stove-3214.cfm

GH is the clothing size a large or xl?

Here you go. I was thinking of purchasing this one a while back for my back porch.
http://www.amazon.com/Portable-Military-Camping-Heater-STOVE-2346/dp/B002XNWC8A

DCM
12-09-2010, 08:25 PM
Here you go. I was thinking of purchasing this one a while back for my back porch.
http://www.amazon.com/Portable-Military-Camping-Heater-STOVE-2346/dp/B002XNWC8A

Nice stove for the money.

unswydd
12-09-2010, 08:38 PM
2 waterbottles
cooking gear
some First aid stuff
some clothing
$200.00 for food .
I'll include a large tent and some other possibles
2 large boxes strike anywhere matches
1 tube of toothpaste
1 6 pack of bar soap
Reading material of various sorts.
3 fleece sweaters/jackets
1 wool watchcap
1 scarf
2 Thermarest short sleeping pads
2 ponchos
1 8 x 10 tarp
1 water filter
mattmayhem I have 4 surplus wool blankets and a cast iron skillet/frying pan
1 new in the box coleman tent.
1 pair insulated gloves
1 stainless nester cup
1 maglite flashlight
1 jacket
2 Methanol Gel stoves.
1 Woodgas stove
Wood bowl/cup
ASK knife w/sheath
1 Pair of size large packable pants
1 Pro force bivi sack
Leather draw string pouch
1 match safe
3 small boxes of strike anywhere matches
1 small OD Green canvas belt possibles pouch
Surefire 6P Flashlight with Malkoff LED drop in
6 CR123 batteries
Gerber pruning and folding saw set
2 wool scarves
2 D Cell Mag light
2 rolls toilet paper
2 bars Ivory soap
2 toothbrushes
First aid supplies
Hand lotion
Duct tape
50' 550 cord
6'X8' tarp
Small buck knife
Mora knife
2 ramen noodles
Chicken fried rice
1 box of noodles
Pouch of tuna
2 cans soup
2 cans veggies
Drink mixes
a new Katadyn Base Camp water filter set up
a set of camp mugs and camp coffee pot
some glove liners and gloves - wool hats - issue stuff
A usgi folding shovel
Bible
Shelters, shacks and shanties
gift card, from a box store
2 alice Packs for the gear

Tucker and I are sending,
Deck of playing cards
Small tub of homemade Laundry soap made from Fels Naptha, Borax and Washing soda ( I make my own and it lasts for months, just use a little bit)
2 pair of nail clippers
More toliet paper (can never have enough of that)
Vitamins Multi, C's and B-Complex
Halls Cough drops
2 large towels and washcloths
Dish Cloths and Dish Soap
1 Canned Cheese
Crossword Puzzles
1 Canned Butter
Package of Powdered Milk
Package of Powdered Cheese
Salt and Pepper
Minced Onions and Minced Garlic
bottle of Tums

TwinBlade
12-09-2010, 11:38 PM
Nice stove for the money.

Do you think it is capable to handle a fire each and every night for several months?

DCM
12-10-2010, 12:03 AM
That is a really good question. Now that you bring that up, I would have my doubts about long term use. Something along the lines of sort of cast iron or heavier gauge steel stove would hold up to that kind of use. Problem is now you're getting into a whole different price range. I would be willing to bet that it would hold up for that kind of use for at least one season though and get them through the Winter, and would hopefully be readdressed next year when the time comes.

Dennis
12-10-2010, 11:55 AM
2 waterbottles
cooking gear
some First aid stuff
some clothing
$200.00 for food .
I'll include a large tent and some other possibles
2 large boxes strike anywhere matches
1 tube of toothpaste
1 6 pack of bar soap
Reading material of various sorts.
3 fleece sweaters/jackets
1 wool watchcap
1 scarf
2 Thermarest short sleeping pads
2 ponchos
1 8 x 10 tarp
1 water filter
mattmayhem I have 4 surplus wool blankets and a cast iron skillet/frying pan
1 new in the box coleman tent.
1 pair insulated gloves
1 stainless nester cup
1 maglite flashlight
1 jacket
2 Methanol Gel stoves.
1 Woodgas stove
Wood bowl/cup
ASK knife w/sheath
1 Pair of size large packable pants
1 Pro force bivi sack
Leather draw string pouch
1 match safe
3 small boxes of strike anywhere matches
1 small OD Green canvas belt possibles pouch
Surefire 6P Flashlight with Malkoff LED drop in
6 CR123 batteries
Gerber pruning and folding saw set
2 wool scarves
2 D Cell Mag light
2 rolls toilet paper
2 bars Ivory soap
2 toothbrushes
First aid supplies
Hand lotion
Duct tape
50' 550 cord
6'X8' tarp
Small buck knife
Mora knife
2 ramen noodles
Chicken fried rice
1 box of noodles
Pouch of tuna
2 cans soup
2 cans veggies
Drink mixes
a new Katadyn Base Camp water filter set up
a set of camp mugs and camp coffee pot
some glove liners and gloves - wool hats - issue stuff
A usgi folding shovel
Bible
Shelters, shacks and shanties
gift card, from a box store
2 alice Packs for the gear
Military Parka. only had one.


Tucker and I are sending,
Deck of playing cards
Small tub of homemade Laundry soap made from Fels Naptha, Borax and Washing soda ( I make my own and it lasts for months, just use a little bit)
2 pair of nail clippers
More toliet paper (can never have enough of that)
Vitamins Multi, C's and B-Complex
Halls Cough drops
2 large towels and washcloths
Dish Cloths and Dish Soap
1 Canned Cheese
Crossword Puzzles
1 Canned Butter
Package of Powdered Milk
Package of Powdered Cheese
Salt and Pepper
Minced Onions and Minced Garlic
bottle of Tums

solocanoe
12-10-2010, 11:59 AM
it seems like there's a lot heading that way - which is GREAT!

have I read some dup's here already? on small items, not a big deal...but on larger items like tents...will that be overkill?
I'm actually having a hard time keeping up with all this...which again is AWESOME! :)

TwinBlade
12-10-2010, 12:27 PM
Regarding fire starting, I use a fresnel lens quite a bit. If it is sunny, you have fire. It will never wear out either.

Can't have too many options...

Ace
12-10-2010, 02:09 PM
Seems to me like there is a going to be a LOT of gear for those two men. Maybe we should focus on getting one of each item they need that is good quality (not saying anybody is sending anything that is not good quality by any means) and then on being able to maintain what they have and making sure they have enough to eat by sending giftcards for the local grocery stores. Don't want to step on anybody's toes here but I see a lot of duplicate items being sent and from what I can tell about their living quarters it looks like they will run out of storage room for extra items pretty quick. Plus don't forget they need room to store their food. I think walmart gift cards or the reloadable visa gift cards would be really good for these guys since then they would be able to buy the daily items that run out like soap, shampoo, toothpaste and the like. Also is there some way for them to be able to bath with warm water being provided?

Old Philosopher
12-10-2010, 02:38 PM
Seems to me like there is a going to be a LOT of gear for those two men. ...

I've been following this with the same concerns. All the good folks here have provided enough stuff to outfit a battalion! I just hope GH doesn't end up having to rent a storage unit. ;)

gloomhound
12-10-2010, 03:35 PM
I've been following this with the same concerns. All the good folks here have provided enough stuff to outfit a battalion! I just hope GH doesn't end up having to rent a storage unit. ;)


It's very important that when you send items along with them include a list of the items that you sent as well as directions on how you want those item dealt with if they are not need, are duplicated or don't fit.

I've just got back from out that way and I had to drop off the 4 packages to them today. I was in kinda a hurry so I could not hang around to chat but things seem to be going ok and the weather is warmer today as well. (Been in the low 40's this afternoon. I will post a few photo's of the good I delivered today as well as a list of items no longer needed.

Let me tell you, Santa Claus ain't got nothing on you guys.

scoutsurvivor
12-10-2010, 03:46 PM
What's the skinny on the tent? This one http://www.calarmy.com/tents/($325.00 5-man arctic)? If folks will spring for the tent, then I've got the stove http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/cb.aspx?a=733412 covered and will drop the hammer on it if gloomhound gives us the "cleared hot". I need an answer quick before these stoves are sold out...

Scout S sends...

TwinBlade
12-10-2010, 04:14 PM
What's the skinny on the tent? This one http://www.calarmy.com/tents/($325.00 5-man arctic)? If folks will spring for the tent, then I've got the stove http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/cb.aspx?a=733412 covered and will drop the hammer on it if gloomhound gives us the "cleared hot". I need an answer quick before these stoves are sold out...

Scout S sends...

Compare that stove to the one towards the other one at the end of my shelter fund raiser thread. That one can burn propane too. Let me know your thoughts. my phone is too small to compare them well.


Sent from my iPhone

gloomhound
12-10-2010, 04:18 PM
Here are the goods I dropped off today.

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p105/wbargo/toolcake.jpg

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p105/wbargo/Fort%20Forgotten/DSCF0014.jpg

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p105/wbargo/Fort%20Forgotten/DSCF0015.jpg

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p105/wbargo/Fort%20Forgotten/DSCF0010.jpg

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p105/wbargo/Fort%20Forgotten/DSCF0017.jpg

Please excuse the photo's backdrop I was pressed for time and had to use my hood.

AlteredMentalStatus
12-10-2010, 04:21 PM
Awesome!!!!!!!

Sgt. Mac
12-10-2010, 04:23 PM
Way to go fellas

scoutsurvivor
12-10-2010, 06:17 PM
Compare that stove to the one towards the other one at the end of my shelter fund raiser thread. That one can burn propane too. Let me know your thoughts. my phone is too small to compare them well.


Sent from my iPhone

I picked up the SG Yukon stove via the SG online store at the Armed Forces Exchange website & got a better deal than on the normal SG website. Same SKU number as currently advertised only it was MILSPEC, original packaging wth a manufacture stamp of 1964 if I remember right. Brand spanking new! It's specifically designed for the 5 man arctic (and 10 man, for that matter) that we're looking at. It's bullet proof and about as Purple Dinosaur as you can get. The propane one I'm not so sure about. Not built to MILSPEC for heavy duty long term use leaves me skeptical about it. I'd much rather pay for the quality for the issue item designed specifically for the tent in consideration. Just my thoughts...

TwinBlade
12-10-2010, 07:03 PM
Rock on. You physically bought it for the cause? If so, looks like we have some extra funds to get them a wind up radio and a few other odds and ends...

Sent from my iphone

gloomhound
12-10-2010, 07:20 PM
One of the Items they received today was a hand powered radio/flashlight.

scoutsurvivor
12-10-2010, 07:41 PM
Rock on. You physically bought it for the cause? If so, looks like we have some extra funds to get them a wind up radio and a few other odds and ends...

Sent from my iphone

Actually, I bought mine a year ago the last time SG had these in stock. It is my intention to buy one for our Vets provided there's a tent for it to go in. Don't want to send 'em something they can't rightly use, ya know? If the tent fundraiser's tracking, I'll drop the hammer, I'd like to try & have them both arrive at near the same time. Don't mean to turn you into a pack mule, gloomhound, it's sorta turning out that way. And thank you, Bru!

solocanoe
12-10-2010, 07:51 PM
yeah...about GH being a packmule...do we have anyone else close?
even close enough to drive and help for a one-day tent raising?

I remember setting up these larger canvas tents...it's an all-hands on deck kinda thing...
I know this sounds easy for me say, being so far away and all...but GH has mentioned a baby with bottle and Deb don't need him killing himself. :)

gloomhound
12-10-2010, 08:10 PM
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs218.snc4/39260_415031425266_547180266_4911914_2179103_n.jpg

donk
12-10-2010, 08:16 PM
You guys and your generosity amaze me, makes me proud to be one of you! Well done indeed.

DorkyDeb
12-10-2010, 08:50 PM
As far as set up, I think I can find enough men. I've got friends/family I'm sure would come and help set it up. Once something is squared away for sure, and I know for sure how many men we need, then I'll start making calls.

TwinBlade
12-10-2010, 11:40 PM
It looks like I will be able to order the tent on Monday if all goes as planned. Generous pledges and donations are making this happen, and keep in mind, I have a couple Aces in the hole on standby from other members.

Seriously, this is just too awesome! :dblthumb:

Old Philosopher
12-10-2010, 11:55 PM
I don't think we have to worry about GH.
From that picture, he looks just about big enough to burn diesel. :D

Trekon86
12-10-2010, 11:59 PM
LOL.
I hope my package reaches you OK Gloom.
I included two large boxes of strike anywheres.
Ooops!:o
PMZ

scoutsurvivor
12-11-2010, 12:54 AM
Sounds good, TwinBlade, stove will be ordered Monday at the latest! Love it when a plan comes together!

TwinBlade
12-11-2010, 12:57 AM
Sounds good, TwinBlade, stove will be ordered Monday at the latest! Love it when a plan comes together!

Don't you know it!

Your generosity in this combined with everyone else participating is going to give our veterans a bit easier living...tough as it will still be...to make it to spring time and into housing assistance.

Shoot me a PM if you need to discuss anything at all.

Jeff

Ace
12-11-2010, 01:32 AM
Please keep us updated on which tent you end up getting for the men. I'd be pleased to know.

2crows
12-11-2010, 04:31 AM
I don't think we have to worry about GH.
From that picture, he looks just about big enough to burn diesel. :D

I love that phrase! And what a doll for a sidekick!

Gloomhound: If a non-member wanted to contribute, what would be the best way?

gloomhound
12-11-2010, 11:02 AM
I love that phrase! And what a doll for a sidekick!

Gloomhound: If a non-member wanted to contribute, what would be the best way?

Well Sir anyone can help if they want. You can PM me with what you are wanting to send just to ensure that it's not already been sent by another member. And I just want to say Thank You for wanting to help.

TwinBlade
12-11-2010, 08:23 PM
I just posted in the Tent thread and the purchase has been made.

Immediately, I have $140 at my disposal and $60-75 (I forget how many MO's are inbound) more coming in as well as a couple of standby help.

The stove was graciously bought and paid for by scoutsurvivor so the items should almost come one on top of another to the destination.

I am not sure of anything "big dollar" that is needed. I will throw this one out to the floor.

Jeff

Infidel
12-11-2010, 08:27 PM
I would sure like to see the look on their faces when the semi drops all of this stuff off out in the middle of the woods. Photos? Video? Do you think they would mind?

TwinBlade
12-11-2010, 09:01 PM
I talked to gloomhound on the phone tonight. He said they were extremely grateful.

I do think we are missing a mission critical piece of equipment...

Securing supplies.

We need rope and contractor pins to secure that tent to the deck. Winter winds are tough on equipment.

scoutsurvivor
12-11-2010, 09:02 PM
With the approval of all who've contributed, may I suggest that a portion be given, as a gift card, to gloomhound and his wife? That they may do with as they see fit... Gloomhound has, and will be for the near future, our link to our Veterans. We never would've been blessed by them if not for him. I say "blessed" because I, speaking for myself, feel that I have received a far greater gift over the course of the last few days, watching all of this come together. A community of perfect "not-really-strangers" from across the country taking care of a couple of strangers when told their story by a "not-really-a-stranger" near instantaneously with no prompting from anyone... That's a hell of a thing... I don't know quite how to put into words the gift I've received from all of this, but it's a wonderful one.

Merry Christmas.

Stormstaff
12-12-2010, 12:18 AM
Ok, what's still needed? I can talk to the wife and see what we can do.

God bless every one of you!

Dennis
12-12-2010, 09:26 AM
What an amazing group of people. God bless every one of you.

gloomhound
12-12-2010, 12:03 PM
While I appreciate the thought, me and my wife were talking and we wouldn't feel right accepting any of the monies that were donated into that fund as a gift.

It did occurred to me last night that we need a tarp with a similar footprint to go under the tent to protect the floor of the tent and guard against mud and to further insulate it from the cold and damp. Also they are in need of some bivy bags because they are getting wet at night and are trying to dry their sleeping gear during to day.

We have gotten a ton of rain overnight and the creeks are up and the ground is saturated and this afternoon the temperatures are dropping in front of the big freeze that is moving east. At this moment the temp is just above frezzing and they are calling for 8 inches of snow tonight.

In short the weather stinks.

Old Philosopher
12-12-2010, 12:09 PM
While I appreciate the thought, me and my wife were talking and we wouldn't feel right accepting any of the monies that were donated into that fund as a gift.
....
:dblthumb: You know how this whole thing works. ;)

DCM
12-12-2010, 12:40 PM
Indoor outdoor carpeting over the top of sheets of rolled visqueen might do the trick. It is going to be hard to have anything that isn't going to attract mud and dirt short of sheet vinyl which won't hold up straight on the ground. Canvas tarp as flooring does work but won't be cheap and IMO won't hold up with longer term use. I have also used, though not in this application, rolled gray rubber flooring/matting that has a diamond plate texture to it that usual goes into garage or workshop settings. The stuff is darn near bullet proof and clean fairly easily. Also there is the stuff they put in professional gyms. Here are some links to either and see what you think.

http://www.greatmats.com/products/rolled-rubber.php

http://www.rubberflooringinc.com/rubber-roll/index.html?gclid=CJybgfWs56UCFRBNgwodrTz_zw

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001C3TF1E/ref=pd_lpo_k2_dp_sr_3?pf_rd_p=486539851&pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe-1&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_i=B00028CHII&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=0GSN9CRWS0Q3BK7GQXVV

These links give you the general idea of what I am referring to. Because it is a 10'X10' tent some of the pricing would be lower to adjust for the actual need. Just wanting to put this out there as a potential option. Just as a reminder as well you will not want this flooring under or near the wood stove.

gloomhound
12-12-2010, 12:48 PM
Just as a reminder as well you will not want this flooring under or near the wood stove.

Please excuse the question but I've not fool around with a stove inside a tent before but, what is the stove going to rest on when it's inside the tent?

Old Philosopher
12-12-2010, 12:58 PM
This might sound silly to some, but a doormat similar to this has saved us a LOT of trouble when camping in sloppy weather. The rubber ones don't freeze, and can be easily shaken to clean them.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41%2BOmx7pTpL._SL500_AA300_.jpg

DCM
12-12-2010, 01:00 PM
I have used stoves in tents fairly regularly and there are several options. One which I have done is to just leave the ground bare as it is. For longer term use like what they will be using it for and I have done in a similar application is to recommend enough patio bricks of some sort to cover an approximate area of 3'x3' give or take.

Trekon86
12-12-2010, 01:02 PM
The rubber mats might not freeze completely, but if you fold them in half and lay them on the ground in cold weather, they will stay folded until you straighten them out forcibly. LOL. but deffo better than a fiber mat, haha.
pMZ

DCM
12-12-2010, 01:02 PM
This might sound silly to some, but a doormat similar to this has saved us a LOT of trouble when camping in sloppy weather. The rubber ones don't freeze, and can be easily shaken to clean them.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41%2BOmx7pTpL._SL500_AA300_.jpg

Good idea :dblthumb:

DCM
12-12-2010, 01:05 PM
The rubber mats might not freeze completely, but if you fold them in half and lay them on the ground in cold weather, they will stay folded until you straighten them out forcibly. LOL. but deffo better than a fiber mat, haha.
pMZ

Inside the tent where the stove will be running they won't freeze and will stay pliable. You just want to lay them when the tent is set up and the stove is running. Old Phil's suggestion may be the best practical answer to this and potentially address the issue you describe.

Old Philosopher
12-12-2010, 01:26 PM
Inside the tent where the stove will be running they won't freeze and will stay pliable. You just want to lay them when the tent is set up and the stove is running. Old Phil's suggestion may be the best practical answer to this and potentially address the issue you describe.
We use a mat at the entrance outside the two doors to our tent. That way most of the mud and debris stays outside. Especially useful if the tent has a floor. In really crappy weather, a beach towel dedicated to the purpose, goes just inside the door. Wipe your feet on the mat, then dry the soles of your shoes on the towel as you step in. THEN take off your shoes and slip on some "house shoes" that never go outside in the slop.
FWIW, the cheap polypropylene mats will stiffen up and even crack if it's sub-freezing. The rubber ones won't.

Another thought, and I probably misunderstood earlier posts (not unusual for me). It sounded like some folks were talking about putting a tarp ground cloth under the tent. This should be obvious, so forgive me, but any vapor barrier under the tent needs to not extend beyond the edges of the tent. Any run-off from the tent goes right under it. Even more of an issue if there is no flooring material. Also trenching around the tent to control run-off might be advisable.
This is "camping 101", but thought I'd mention it.

DorkyDeb
12-12-2010, 01:27 PM
I have done a lot of tent camping when I was healthier but always in weather that I could get by without a stove. (Although I have been known to fill the entire back of a car with quilts and blankets....lol) ;)

So I don't know, or claim to know the first thing about how to set up the floor of this type of tent. But to try to explain this local area/terrain and what the tent ground floor needs to be prepared for, I would put it in one word: mud.

I am amazed at how good the guy's camp area looks right now. It is a testament to the fellas in my opinion. I have seen people tent camp for a week and have a far bigger mess than these guys.

Old Philosopher
12-12-2010, 01:33 PM
...So I don't know, or claim to know the first thing about how to set up the floor of this type of tent. But to try to explain this local area/terrain and what the tent ground floor needs to be prepared for, I would put it in one word: mud.
....
LOL! Yeah, try camping for a week in Western Washington! Back to my ol' "scrape-wipe-remove shoes" philosophy.

canteencup
12-12-2010, 01:42 PM
Will be sending out a care package this week.

DorkyDeb
12-12-2010, 02:09 PM
LOL! Yeah, try camping for a week in Western Washington! Back to my ol' "scrape-wipe-remove shoes" philosophy.

LOL Yeah, I think the guys will do a good job in terms of what they might track in. They are keeping the camp they have now very well. My main concern (floor wise) is ground mud. I am sure there will be plenty of moisture/mud underneath the tent. That's just how things are here. Which is not a big deal in a short term situation, long term it could be an issue. Currently I believe they have wooden pallets (sp?) under their tiny tent.

DorkyDeb
12-12-2010, 03:16 PM
Current forecast:

CHARLESTON, W.Va. (AP) -- The National Weather Service has issued a winter storm warning for much of West Virginia from Sunday through Tuesday morning.

The National Weather Service says elevations about 2,500 feet could receive up to a foot of snow and wind gusts could reach 50 mph, reducing visibilities dramatically.

The weather service says rain will change to snow from west to east by Sunday afternoon. Lower elevations in the warning area could receive up to 10 inches of snow.

The heaviest snow is expected to fall Sunday night through Monday night. Wind chill readings are expected to fall below zero on Sunday night and as low as 10 below zero on Monday night.

I think they will be ok. But it wouldn't hurt to say a few extra prayers for these guys over the next few days. Depending on how bad our hill gets, we may not be able to get out to check on them for a few days.

DorkyDeb
12-12-2010, 03:25 PM
It just occurred to me to add, that power outages are very common here in storms. Sometimes extended outages. Sometimes it takes out the phone, sometimes it doesn't. Our cell coverage here is extremely spotty, when it does work a little. And sometimes the cell towers go out in storms too. So if you guys don't hear from us for a bit after this storm, just know we are probably without power.

This same week last year a storm similar to this one took us out for a little over a week. Sometimes it's two weeks. I'm hoping we'll maintain power this time because they are predicting the snow to be dry (not heavy and wet). But now they are predicting high winds. So if it ends up taking out a bunch of trees, well you may not hear from us for a bit. Hopefully it won't happen but I just didn't want anyone to worry if it does.

Stormstaff
12-12-2010, 04:56 PM
Prayers of protection sent for these gentlemen and for yourselves also.

Old Philosopher
12-12-2010, 05:34 PM
I've visualizing a nice white protective dome over their campsite.

DCM
12-12-2010, 07:56 PM
I've visualizing a nice white protective dome over their campsite.

+1 !

mr. jinchao
12-12-2010, 08:02 PM
I always try to look on the bright side of things, and usually it works out well, lol. I kinda wish I could live out there like that for a winter. It would put things in perspective and teach me to be very thankful for the things I have. To live in the woods for a winter would be great! Hat's off to these guys for not only serving our country, but for the courage to take winter head on and survive. Thanks for all the people here for helping them survive. Is there anything they still need. I got this post kinda late and I cold possible help out?

mr. jinchao
12-12-2010, 08:12 PM
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs218.snc4/39260_415031425266_547180266_4911914_2179103_n.jpg

You can't give them that baby!

TwinBlade
12-12-2010, 08:45 PM
Ok, so I ordered that tent yesterday and got an email saying I owed $31+ for shipping. Turns out I chose the option for "cost" not "weight" like I was supposed to on heavy items.

They said in the email the order was on hold until I contacted them to remedy the problem.

I called them today since they were open on a Sunday and talked to a fella named Ken, who I found out was a 10+ year Coast Guard veteran. I gave him the run down on the situation and what we were collectively doing on BCUSA for these vets.

Long story short, he told me the bill was paid in full and the added cost to get this tent to these veterans was paid for by him. He said it was the companies contribution to their well being and cause.

I just felt it was worth mentioning. That is some class act right there. :dblthumb:

AlteredMentalStatus
12-12-2010, 09:23 PM
Awesome News Bro

Old Philosopher
12-12-2010, 09:43 PM
Ok, so I ordered that tent yesterday and got an email saying I owed $31+ for shipping. Turns out I chose the option for "cost" not "weight" like I was supposed to on heavy items.

They said in the email the order was on hold until I contacted them to remedy the problem.

I called them today since they were open on a Sunday and talked to a fella named Ken, who I found out was a 10+ year Coast Guard veteran. I gave him the run down on the situation and what we were collectively doing on BCUSA for these vets.

Long story short, he told me the bill was paid in full and the added cost to get this tent to these veterans was paid for by him. He said it was the companies contribution to their well being and cause.

I just felt it was worth mentioning. That is some class act right there. :dblthumb:
I got wiggly things in my tummy right now, and can't really see what I'm typing.
Beyond cool!!!

Old Philosopher
12-12-2010, 10:23 PM
I had another post on here with an idea about a hearth for the wood stove, but the site went away, for some reason.
In any case, if the tent has a floor, my thought would be a piece of "fire board" under the stove. There's gypsum, vermiculite, and various composite brand names, but everybody knows what fire board, or gypsum board is. I've used it on walls near wood stoves for years. No worries from heat, sparks or coals.

DCM
12-13-2010, 07:32 AM
I had another post on here with an idea about a hearth for the wood stove, but the site went away, for some reason.
In any case, if the tent has a floor, my thought would be a piece of "fire board" under the stove. There's gypsum, vermiculite, and various composite brand names, but everybody knows what fire board, or gypsum board is. I've used it on walls near wood stoves for years. No worries from heat, sparks or coals.

My only concern for fire board is its relative fragility for holding weight. Placing it on anything but completely level and even ground would cause it to crack with any weight placed on it. The weight of the stove, Firewood or stepping on it all would IMO cause it to crack. It is great fire protection for walls I just don't believe it would work here.

JEB
12-13-2010, 09:53 AM
twinblade, what company was that. I may have to do business with them!! It is time to support businesses that support our American Hero's/

Sgt. Mac
12-13-2010, 09:56 AM
Great news Twin blade, If I'm ever in need of something like they have, I'll be givin them my business

TwinBlade
12-13-2010, 10:30 AM
Gents, It is Southern Missouri Mule. Here is there site address. They have a LOT of supplies...

http://www.somomule.com/Home.html

Old Philosopher
12-13-2010, 11:06 AM
My only concern for fire board is its relative fragility for holding weight. Placing it on anything but completely level and even ground would cause it to crack with any weight placed on it. The weight of the stove, Firewood or stepping on it all would IMO cause it to crack. It is great fire protection for walls I just don't believe it would work here.
Quite possible, I guess. Leveling the ground in that one spot shouldn't be too difficult, though. The gypsum board I use has fiber netting impregnated in it. It might crack, but it won't come apart. I have no idea if the vermiculite products are more flexible. I know with this reinforced stuff, you can't even break it up to throw scraps away, it has to be cut with a saw.

TwinBlade
12-13-2010, 01:32 PM
Ya know, cow mats are frickin tough. They are made out of recycled tires. An ember won't touch it and it is flexible too. The downside, is unless you get a small one or have the means to cut one (I have used a sawzall but that blade was blisteringly hot) they are very heavy in full sections.

All of our dog houses in the house have them inside. They are easier to sleep on than the plastic tray, easily washed and more durable than anything out there.

http://www.farmandfleet.com/products/299018-rubber_cow_trailer_mat_6_x_4_x_1_2.html?lref=%2ffa rm_livestock%2flivestock_feed_equipment%2fhandling %2fcow_mats%2f

DCM
12-13-2010, 01:42 PM
I use those all over the place for my kennel, shed flooring and ground cover at gates. As you said though they are a bee-atch to cut. They are made from melted down tires and often have metal fibers in them from steel belted radials. They also weigh about 130#'s each. I have used an old circular saw blade that gets through but does heat up similar to a sawz-all. Patio bricks are small enough to carry a few at a time and are easily adjustable to the configuration.

red elm
12-13-2010, 04:20 PM
Twin Blade that is great news!!! I'll add them to my favorites for duing business with.

2 brand new large alice packs and frames are being sent out on Monday.

gloomhound
12-13-2010, 04:31 PM
I braved the nasty roads today to check the mail.

Here it is our lovely Big Chimney Post Office.
http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p105/wbargo/DSCF0079.jpg

Here is the interior of the Post Office..all of it.
http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p105/wbargo/DSCF0080.jpg

Here is our lovely postmistress hard at work behind the counter. She said hello by the way.
http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p105/wbargo/DSCF0081-1.jpg

Here is the town of Big Chimney WV.
http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p105/wbargo/DSCF0082-1.jpg

Here is one of the two items I received today the other being a personal card that I delivered.
http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p105/wbargo/DSCF0073.jpg

Here is the only photo I took out at the camp today, because I don't want to treat the guys as some kind of exhibit and I am planning on taking a bunch of photo's on the day we set the tent up. Also it was to dam.... dang cold to stand around taking photo's.
http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p105/wbargo/snowfield-1.jpg

Old Philosopher
12-13-2010, 08:57 PM
If any place could stand a big chimney, it looks like that could! Brrr..... :)

Bax 40
12-13-2010, 09:49 PM
TB for whatever it worth willow Springs aint far from me and some of the horsey set here do business with them too and say they are first rate.


Larry


Gents, It is Southern Missouri Mule. Here is there site address. They have a LOT of supplies...

http://www.somomule.com/Home.html

TwinBlade
12-13-2010, 11:25 PM
Right on Larry. I should invite them to at least check out this thread. I think they would be pleased.

scoutsurvivor
12-14-2010, 01:56 PM
Bump...

Stove is inbound to gloomhound, should be there on the 16th...

gloomhound
12-14-2010, 05:24 PM
Just a quick note: If you are going to be mailing a package or have already mailed a package that I haven't received yet please send me a quick PM so I can keep an eye out for it.

Thank You.

Dennis
12-14-2010, 05:46 PM
I sent one but didn't know I was suppose to notify you. I'm bad. To tell you the truth I figured with so much headed your way keeping track of it would be a job in it's own. And the point was to help not make it harder for you to help them. JMHO

DorkyDeb
12-14-2010, 06:16 PM
I sent one but didn't know I was suppose to notify you. I'm bad. To tell you the truth I figured with so much headed your way keeping track of it would be a job in it's own. And the point was to help not make it harder for you to help them. JMHO

It's not a huge thing it's just that our post office is very tiny. The picture that he shared before, of our postal lady behind the window, it is actually taken from standing in the doorway. That is how small it is. So she just doesn't have space for keeping many boxes there and it is Christmas time so they are dealing with packages anyway and space over there is super tight. Something that she is quick to remind her patrons of. ;)

Things that come in envelopes, fit easily in our tiny PO box. But if there is a big box or several boxes, she likes for you to get them the same day if you can. And it's harder to do that if you don't know you are expecting it.

As far as shipments coming to the house via UPS, we live on a rural route where you have to keep an eye out for the truck. They don't typically drive up our hill. So it's good to know, so we can watch for them, etc.
That's all. :)

TwinBlade
12-14-2010, 11:40 PM
Well the tent will be going out tomorrow (hopefully) according to an email I had with Ken. He apologized for the short delay, but I am really wanting these vets to get into this tent this weekend.

We shall see...

Dennis
12-15-2010, 07:10 AM
It's not a huge thing it's just that our post office is very tiny. The picture that he shared before, of our postal lady behind the window, it is actually taken from standing in the doorway. That is how small it is. So she just doesn't have space for keeping many boxes there and it is Christmas time so they are dealing with packages anyway and space over there is super tight. Something that she is quick to remind her patrons of. ;)

Things that come in envelopes, fit easily in our tiny PO box. But if there is a big box or several boxes, she likes for you to get them the same day if you can. And it's harder to do that if you don't know you are expecting it.

As far as shipments coming to the house via UPS, we live on a rural route where you have to keep an eye out for the truck. They don't typically drive up our hill. So it's good to know, so we can watch for them, etc.
That's all. :)

Thanks for explaining.

TwinBlade
12-15-2010, 01:53 PM
So how is the tent going to be secured to the deck? Is there enough rope and spikes to do the trick or do some need to be purchased?

gloomhound
12-15-2010, 09:24 PM
I'm going to be heading out there tomorrow weather permitting and I can take a look at the ground to get an idea as to the best location for setup. Like I've said in the past this location is the high ground in a marshy area. How well it holds is going to depend a lot on the type of stakes that are supplied with the tent (It does come with tent stakes doesn't it?) so I'm just going to have to wait till it gets here. I'm kind of in a position of not knowing enough to ask an intelligent question at this point. :)

Old Philosopher
12-15-2010, 09:47 PM
I'm going to be heading out there tomorrow weather permitting and I can take a look at the ground to get an idea as to the best location for setup. Like I've said in the past this location is the high ground in a marshy area. How well it holds is going to depend a lot on the type of stakes that are supplied with the tent (It does come with tent stakes doesn't it?) so I'm just going to have to wait till it gets here. I'm kind of in a position of not knowing enough to ask an intelligent question at this point. :)
The link I followed said it came with 12" steel stakes. I got a little confused, because there have been a couple mentions of a "deck". :confused:
I know what that means when it involves setting up a semi-permanent wall tent, but I guess I missed the part about the carpentry crew.

gloomhound
12-15-2010, 09:54 PM
Deck?

What deck?

Old Philosopher
12-15-2010, 10:02 PM
Deck?

What deck?

This one:


I talked to gloomhound on the phone tonight. He said they were extremely grateful.

I do think we are missing a mission critical piece of equipment...

Securing supplies.

We need rope and contractor pins to secure that tent to the deck. Winter winds are tough on equipment.

Oh...duh....brain f@rt... He meant deck like "floor, ground, opposite of ceiling", right? Like in "hit the deck"?
Sorry, GH, didn't mean to give you a heart attack! :p :D :o

cadams3
12-15-2010, 10:24 PM
Wow, Great job guys, iawoodsman told me about this and now after going through and reading all yer post I feel like a turd for not doing anything... Hey GH anything off the top of yer head they need or are running outta?

AlteredMentalStatus
12-15-2010, 10:26 PM
Wow, Great job guys, iawoodsman told me about this and now after going through and reading all yer post I feel like a turd for not doing anything... Hey GH anything off the top of yer head they need or are running outta?

Hey bro.....just be willing to help in the future.....winter is a long time coming...I don't see this as just a one time fix.....we must be willing to help down the road also.....:14:

gloomhound
12-15-2010, 10:33 PM
Due to the generosity on the members here the only items I can think of, off of hand that they still need are bivy bags to protect their sleeping gear from getting wet as they seem to do daily and a splitting axe/maul.

After the tent arrives I'm sure there will be items needed for it's set up. You can of course send gift cards as well.

Old Philosopher
12-15-2010, 11:00 PM
The guys need something to put all their presents under.
The lights run on batteries.

http://img2.prosperent.com/images/250x250/images.channeladvisor.com/Sell/SSProfiles/22001048/Images/56/gkifrasierslim100022203.jpg

:D

TwinBlade
12-15-2010, 11:22 PM
We have money left from all the donations.

$200+ off the top of my head. I can have all that bought and shipped to them. Just need to know a good bivy to buy. I can handle the maul or splitting wedge. Probably have an Estwing wedge shipped to them. That sucker rocks!

AlteredMentalStatus
12-15-2010, 11:28 PM
Bivy's can be expensive....check for a military gore-tex

gloomhound
12-15-2010, 11:28 PM
I haven't dealt with a bivy sack in years so I'm kinda out of the loop. How expensive are they?

I thought (and I could be wrong) that someone was going to send one bivy bag in a care package? If that's the case we would only need one.

TwinBlade
12-15-2010, 11:34 PM
I was looking at these when I was at work...

http://www.amazon.com/Military-Surplus-Bivy-Sleeping-Cover/dp/B00276IGM4

AlteredMentalStatus
12-15-2010, 11:37 PM
do they have mummy style bags or are they rectangle bags??? If mummy style then do the ones you found Twin Blade....it'll also help keep them warm

TwinBlade
12-15-2010, 11:41 PM
Keep in mind, the tent has a sewn in vinyl flooring. They also have cots inbound.

Just wondering if this is a wise purchase...

gloomhound
12-15-2010, 11:53 PM
I personally think their gear is getting wet due to dripping condensation rather than a leak. As for the wisdom of a bivy sack I haven't used one in years and then only a few times so that is for more informed minds to determine. :)

TwinBlade
12-15-2010, 11:54 PM
If that is the case, I would see how the stove and a bigger air space inside that tent treat them. That is just an opinion...subject to change.

gloomhound
12-16-2010, 12:03 AM
do they have mummy style bags or are they rectangle bags??? If mummy style then do the ones you found Twin Blade....it'll also help keep them warm


As I recall rectangle bags.

AlteredMentalStatus
12-16-2010, 12:26 AM
As I recall rectangle bags.

must bivy's are for mummies.....could locate a canvas bed roll or something along those lines

gloomhound
12-16-2010, 09:55 AM
You know I just posted over on the other thread on this topic, moaning about how huge the manual for the stove is and then I was sitting here whining about my thumb that I cut last night and how I wasn't happy about how the snow that's falling might interfere with my plans for today, thats when I checked my local news and saw this-


Man Freezes to Death Under Bridge, Police Say

Charleston Police say it appears a man froze to death under the Quarrier Street bridge.

The body of Robert Sissom was found around 7:00 p.m. Wednesday.

Investigators say it appears Sissom died from being exposed to the brutally cold weather. Police say they believe he had died several days before he was found.

Investigators say Sissom had been homeless for the past several months.

http://www.wsaz.com/news/headlines/Man_Freezes_to_Death_Under_Bridge_in_Charleston_Po lice_Say_111996134.html

Somehow as I sit here in my warm house in shorts drinking a nice cold drink while typing away on my PC my problems seem rather small.


Where this guy camp was is about about 10 miles as the crow flies from Michael & John's.

Into The Outdoors
12-16-2010, 10:40 AM
Ya well, don't be too hard on yourself, I think we all do the same thing from time to time.

TwinBlade
12-16-2010, 10:46 AM
I agree with ITO. It is all the more reason why I am a tad miffed that the tent will not show until the 21st...

How are you doing on that stove GH? Are you missing anything?

Echo4v
12-16-2010, 10:49 AM
I was looking at these when I was at work...

http://www.amazon.com/Military-Surplus-Bivy-Sleeping-Cover/dp/B00276IGM4

These are awesome but need to be scotchguarded every few months. I used one in the Marine Corps and I still use one. We used to average 4 months per year in garrison ( that means 8 months per year in a sleeping bag) and we would apply scotch guard ( or camp dry) every 6 months and they never leaked on that schedule.

David

Sgt. Mac
12-16-2010, 10:58 AM
These are awesome but need to be scotchguarded every few months. I used one in the Marine Corps and I still use one. We used to average 4 months per year in garrison ( that means 8 months per year in a sleeping bag) and we would apply scotch guard ( or camp dry) every 6 months and they never leaked on that schedule.

David

Roger that Dave

Old Philosopher
12-16-2010, 10:59 AM
Ya well, don't be too hard on yourself, I think we all do the same thing from time to time.
Life is filled with lessons, and messages. I think this whole situation with Mike and John as put things into perspective for a LOT of us.

Tarakian
12-16-2010, 11:16 AM
Gloomhound, would you mind posting a list of current needs, and maybe even some morale booster ideas? I would like to contribute something, but I won't be able to until after Christmas, due to payday timing.

wisconsinwalter
12-16-2010, 02:35 PM
Guys, I love what you are doing. I am not in a position to help cause I have my own service issues to deal with, but......

What is the exit plan for these vets? All of you vets know what I mean. They get through winter then what? Do they have a plan? If they want to stay campers by choice that is fine, but if they truly are having a hard time with society, couldn't someone help them find ptsd help?

I would hate to see them develop dependance for this and stop trying to help themselves. If this has been covered I apologize.

Sgt. Mac
12-16-2010, 03:08 PM
I think they just plan on wintering it out there for now Walt. Theyr'e on a list for housing in the Spring from what I understand

wisconsinwalter
12-16-2010, 03:39 PM
I think they just plan on wintering it out there for now Walt. Theyr'e on a list for housing in the Spring from what I understand

Sounds good! SF

gloomhound
12-17-2010, 06:02 PM
Checked on the guys today and delivered some stuff you guys sent. Just made it home I need to eat and do some stuff around the homestead I will post more later.


It was not a good day to be out and about.

STOBBER
12-17-2010, 08:35 PM
How are they set on O.T.C med's
Tylenol
nyquil
ibuprophen
cough drops
skin care
shave cream/razors
benedryl
neosporyn
immodium
pepto bismol
pepsid
etc...............................???????????????
Little items like that mean a lot when ya need 'em.

gloomhound
12-17-2010, 10:18 PM
How are they set on O.T.C med's
Tylenol
nyquil
ibuprophen
cough drops
skin care
shave cream/razors
benedryl
neosporyn
immodium
pepto bismol
pepsid
etc...............................???????????????
Little items like that mean a lot when ya need 'em.

Sorry to say but I have no idea really.

TwinBlade
12-17-2010, 11:46 PM
For your sake bro, I am going to stop asking about this and that. You know you have funds at your disposal, some in reserve too. I just need to get in contact with the ones that want to help in the future.

Keep me posted, gimme a call, shoot me a PM. You know how to reach me.

Jeff

Into The Outdoors
12-18-2010, 12:08 AM
Guys, I love what you are doing. I am not in a position to help cause I have my own service issues to deal with, but......

What is the exit plan for these vets? All of you vets know what I mean. They get through winter then what? Do they have a plan? If they want to stay campers by choice that is fine, but if they truly are having a hard time with society, couldn't someone help them find ptsd help?

I would hate to see them develop dependance for this and stop trying to help themselves. If this has been covered I apologize.

How do we know this is PTSD related? Did I miss something? I'm sorry, but we are not here to diagnose them. I don't care about their past or what the future has to hold for right now. (you know what I mean)

This is about now and this winter. We are not here to spoon feed them forever. So let's just focus on the now please. The only way you are going to get your questions answered is by talking to them and that might just blow up in your face. These questions are not for us to ask them. Sometimes you just have to worry about the now.

Old Philosopher
12-18-2010, 12:18 AM
As long as these guys don't end up like the guy camped under the bridge near by, everyone here has served their purpose.

Dennis
12-19-2010, 06:57 AM
Bump.

gloomhound
12-19-2010, 10:14 PM
I've not had the best weekend and I've gotten behind on what I took out to the guys on Friday.

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p105/wbargo/Fort%20Forgotten/DSCF0108.jpg

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p105/wbargo/Fort%20Forgotten/DSCF0112.jpg

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p105/wbargo/Fort%20Forgotten/DSCF0110.jpg

These items were sent by members that have already given a bunch. You know who you are and I think you are doing God's work and I salute you.

In any case I'm going to check on them tomorrow as soon as I can get out there. The tent should be arriving in short order and I plan on taking a large number of photo's of set up day.

While I've said it before that fact is I just can't say it enough Thank You all so very much. You folks are the best.

gloomhound
12-20-2010, 06:22 PM
So I'm leaning on the back of the truck brushing the snow off my boots when I notice a dark truck slowing down to stop next to me on the hardtop. The driver an older man leans over and rolls down the passenger side window. He says something but his words are lost to the trucks engine noise and the reedy sound of the whipping cold west wind that files along the blacktop.

I step closer.

The driver, thin faced with a shock of gray going to white hair said "They still up there?" He indicated with a nod of his head the snow covered path I had just walked down. "Yes Sir."

"Did you take them something?" he asked. "A coat." I say turning my eye away from his towards the snow buried marsh grass. Their amber stalks stabbing up from the mounds of snow.

His voice takes on a almost pleading tone, one you might use when explaining something to a particularly dull child. "Why are you helping them?" "No one around here wants them here." I feel my face flush red my cheeks warm in the cold air. As I stand there basking in the stale beer fumes from his truck he presses the point. "Kids live around here." He leans across the center console of the truck holding himself up with one hand on the passenger seat. He's close enough now that he can continue in an almost normal volume "You don't know nothing about them." "You don't know, they could be drug addicts or pedophiles or anything."

I'm right up on the door so I can see clearly his face go stony when I say to him, "Well what do I know about you?"

As he drives away without another word I think to myself.

"Well merry Christmas to you."



By the way here is the very nice arctic parka that one of you sent today.

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p105/wbargo/Fort%20Forgotten/PIC-0186.jpg

Ace
12-20-2010, 06:51 PM
What a piece! People like that really get my blood going. I'd like to ask him if he ever served or did anything else with his life except live under the blanket of freedom and security that the men he just insulted put their lives on the line to provide. That really burns me up. Sorry for the rant.

scoutsurvivor
12-20-2010, 07:09 PM
Good answer, though, GH. You said you smelled beer fumes and this clownshoe's out driving around. Hmmm... I bet he calls himself a good Christian every Sunday at church, too. No offense to my fellow Christians meant as we all know the type. "Christian of convenience" I call 'em. Whatever, you did, and are doing, good things, GH.

Sgt. Mac
12-20-2010, 08:01 PM
Yer gonna get people like that. People who just dont get it, and prob. never will. but you take a look at this Forum, and the people in it. Total strangers to each other for the most part, all coming together for this cause. The people right here "Get it"

Dennis
12-21-2010, 06:35 AM
What a piece! People like that really get my blood going. I'd like to ask him if he ever served or did anything else with his life except live under the blanket of freedom and security that the men he just insulted put their lives on the line to provide. That really burns me up. Sorry for the rant.

Ditto very well said.

Antig
12-21-2010, 02:36 PM
So I'm leaning on the back of the truck brushing the snow off my boots when I notice a dark truck slowing down to stop next to me on the hardtop. The driver an older man leans over and rolls down the passenger side window. He says something but his words are lost to the trucks engine noise and the reedy sound of the whipping cold west wind that files along the blacktop.

I step closer.

The driver, thin faced with a shock of gray going to white hair said "They still up there?" He indicated with a nod of his head the snow covered path I had just walked down. "Yes Sir."

"Did you take them something?" he asked. "A coat." I say turning my eye away from his towards the snow buried marsh grass. Their amber stalks stabbing up from the mounds of snow.

His voice takes on a almost pleading tone, one you might use when explaining something to a particularly dull child. "Why are you helping them?" "No one around here wants them here." I feel my face flush red my cheeks warm in the cold air. As I stand there basking in the stale beer fumes from his truck he presses the point. "Kids live around here." He leans across the center console of the truck holding himself up with one hand on the passenger seat. He's close enough now that he can continue in an almost normal volume "You don't know nothing about them." "You don't know, they could be drug addicts or pedophiles or anything."

I'm right up on the door so I can see clearly his face go stony when I say to him, "Well what do I know about you?"

As he drives away without another word I think to myself.

"Well merry Christmas to you."


You must be a writer or something...:dblthumb:

gloomhound
12-22-2010, 02:15 PM
Good News folks.

The tent was just delivered!

Sgt. Mac
12-22-2010, 02:29 PM
OOORAH!!! they will have tent, stove and all the rest of the gear for Christmas!!

solocanoe
12-22-2010, 02:34 PM
GH, has the landowner been contacted since you (and we) learned more about our guys?

given the "nobody wants 'em there" comment from that guy, it would be a shame if he was to change his mind to neighbor pressure - especially if the landowner didn't know all the good facts you shared with us!

Sgt. Mac
12-22-2010, 02:36 PM
Cant speak for GH Solo, but from what I understand the Land Owner is in the loop

solocanoe
12-22-2010, 02:40 PM
that's excellent, sarge . thanks!

just didn't want the "hate to escalate" now that the guys are gonna have a semi-permanent shelter going up for all to see.

Dennis
12-22-2010, 03:22 PM
Good News folks.

The tent was just delivered!

Yea Haw. That's some good news.

AlteredMentalStatus
12-22-2010, 03:26 PM
Awesome News GH

turkeytracks
12-22-2010, 03:36 PM
Thats some good news GH and good on ya for all you have done.