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Panzer
01-14-2012, 05:08 PM
So I was lucky enough to get a hold of a stainless version of the Swedish Mess Kit. I am thinking it will be a great kit for winter camping.

I am wondering everyone's experience and how you have them kitted out.

Show them if you got them! Thanks

allfatherodin
01-14-2012, 06:03 PM
While we're on the subject, can someone tell me the main pros of the stainless set?

I found a site selling... three varieties of the whole trangia + mess kit set.

-regular old swedish cook set made of aluminum
-German/Austrian cook set made of aluminum (this set has an extra bowl in it, and is also cheapest of the three)
-Swedish cook set made of stainless steel (most expensive, and I think heaviest?)

http://www.militarymart.co.uk//mess-kit/stoves-accessories/cat_93.html

Panzer
01-14-2012, 06:15 PM
Stainless is heavier but more durable and many folks are worried about aluminum cookware for the health risks. Also aluminum tends to burn food easier IMHO

Carpe Arcus
01-14-2012, 07:22 PM
With pleasure.I have one of both types,and the goodies that go
with them.

http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x460/Lifeonadirtroad/Swed1.jpghttp://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x460/Lifeonadirtroad/Swed2.jpghttp://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x460/Lifeonadirtroad/Swed3.jpg

Spork
01-14-2012, 07:59 PM
I was just messing around with one of my SMKs today...to adapt it to small pots. Just drilled some holes in the windscreen for a couple of steel tent stakes.

http://bushcraftusa.com/gallery/files/9/2/5/6/smk_mokapot01.jpg

I've also made lids for my kits. They're handier, free up the top half for use and there's less mass for the Alcohol burner to have to heat up. They store upside down in the top cover and form a little stash compartment.

http://bushcraftusa.com/gallery/files/9/2/5/6/smk_lid01.jpg

http://bushcraftusa.com/gallery/files/9/2/5/6/smk_lid02.jpg

easy
01-14-2012, 08:17 PM
Ive always had my eye on that cook kit. I just cant figure out what to cook in it when Im out and about. What do people cook in it?

anubis1335
01-14-2012, 08:19 PM
i have the german mess kit which is similar. I do love it. I would really like an SS swedish one as well.. great pix guys

Panzer
01-14-2012, 08:19 PM
You can cook anything you can any other pot? Not sure whey you wouldn't be able to.

Kendo
01-14-2012, 08:24 PM
I have the aluminum one and love it. I have done some cooking with mine, mostly reheating precooked foods. I feel your imagination is the limit to these kits.

One Legged Josh
01-14-2012, 08:29 PM
I ended up with two of them, and recently "payed one forward" to a buddy in Missouri. Here is the stainless one while I was removing the paint...

http://i1108.photobucket.com/albums/h405/OneLeggedJosh/016.jpg

Lerch
01-14-2012, 08:33 PM
I recently got an aluminum model. Thx Josh. Compared it to a buddy's stainless version and I prefer the aluminum due to the substantial weight savings.

I really wanted one so I could use the stove for a warming fire in areas where an open fire isn't allowed.

Here are the pictures of its maiden voyage. I made Bannock and warmed my tarp shelter with it this day. Notice the stove is no longer a nice black.
http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t304/lerch_james/01-02-2012/P1020039.jpg
http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t304/lerch_james/01-02-2012/P1020051.jpg
http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t304/lerch_james/01-02-2012/P1020056.jpg

Today I used it to cook some Ramen Noodle. I am posting a video of it to YouTube at the moment if you care to see it in action on that let me know. Nothing more exciting than watching water boil. ;)

Tomjones
01-14-2012, 08:34 PM
Where are you guys getting the SS sets? I have been trying for quite a while to locate one, but alas my google-fu has been found lacking. Any assistance would be much appreciated.

Panzer
01-14-2012, 08:35 PM
That's a cool idea to use the stand/screen as a wood burner.

Josh, I stripped mine today. Much better :)

allfatherodin
01-14-2012, 09:01 PM
TomJones, the link I posted on the previous page has the SS versions.

Carpe Arcus
01-14-2012, 10:18 PM
What is everyone using to strip the paint on the stainless ones?

EdD270
01-14-2012, 11:10 PM
The stainless Swede mil surp kit I got was on EBay. It was repainted with some really cheap paint that burned right off, no need for any stripping of paint. Krylon High-temp BBQ paint would work, if you want to keep the orig subdued colors, which I like.
The aluminum tends to burn food because the aluminum conducts heat so much better and faster than the stainless steel, but it also conducts more evenly while stainless tends to have hot spots and cold spots. The weight savings is significant, too, with aluminum over stainless. I got stainless because that's the first kit I found.

One Legged Josh
01-14-2012, 11:17 PM
What is everyone using to strip the paint on the stainless ones?

Paint stripper, sandpaper, and elbow grease

Okbushcraft
01-14-2012, 11:27 PM
I have the SS set. I got it new a few years back. I paid about $35 for the set but can't anywhere near one for that now.

http://bushcraftusa.com/gallery/files/1/0/2/9/7/fot_2009_098.jpg


I prefer stainless over aluminum for all of my camp gear due to the fears concerning aluminum in our diets. Aluminum is re-active and it will leach into your foods. The jury is out on all the facts but their is enough concern and after watching a loved one die of alzhymers I will prefer to err on the side of caution.

akabu
01-14-2012, 11:31 PM
have an old one used it on a trip from The northeast to the panhandle of Florida and Louisiana and back for two weeks.
SS when dealing with Saltwater.
Thicker Wall will deal with Camp fires.{even used it in a hotel room bathroom {tile floor} with a Alcohol stove.
and used it wood fed.
and just so cool.

pik
01-15-2012, 12:08 AM
What is everyone using to strip the paint on the stainless ones?

Paint stripper, a putty knife, and a leftover bit of coarse steel wool. The original paint was a real pain to get off.

I put on a bunch of paint stripper, and left it all in a plastic bag for maybe an hour or so - it seemed to make it easier. The putty knife did most of the work, and the steel wool got the last little specks.

Be advised that not all parts are stainless, so take care of them after you wash off the stripper. I just put a few drops of (raw) linseed oil on mine on the hinges and handles.

Ron
01-15-2012, 04:35 AM
Here's mine;
I added a Dutch NATO mug and homemade lid for it, to the set, plus a small grid, so the mug can be set on top of the folding arms. Made a carrying pouch for the lot with a small pocket for the fuelbottle and pothook. This way I keep the fuel OUT of the cookingpot.
Inside the mug are a foldable mug, burner, box of matches, a spork and a supplement of sugar, coffee, tea and soup. The mug is covered with a sleeve against rattling.
Trueth be told, I don't like it all that much, mainly because of the fuel(bottle). It smells, it's cumbursome and burns/heats slow.

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i51/yeahwiggie/bushcraft/4personalised-1.jpg

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i51/yeahwiggie/DSC04834.jpg

Radix lecti
01-15-2012, 08:32 AM
Here is the stainless one i use,with a pot grab handle mod.Cheers.

Darren

Seeker
01-15-2012, 10:29 AM
Here's mine;
I added a Dutch NATO mug and homemade lid for it, to the set, plus a small grid, so the mug can be set on top of the folding arms. Made a carrying pouch for the lot with a small pocket for the fuelbottle and pothook. This way I keep the fuel OUT of the cookingpot.
Inside the mug are a foldable mug, burner, box of matches, a spork and a supplement of sugar, coffee, tea and soup. The mug is covered with a sleeve against rattling.
Trueth be told, I don't like it all that much, mainly because of the fuel(bottle). It smells, it's cumbursome and burns/heats slow.

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i51/yeahwiggie/bushcraft/4personalised-1.jpg

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i51/yeahwiggie/DSC04834.jpg

i like that pouch you made, with the bottle holder. nice job.

also like that backpack i see in the background of your second photo... old bundeswehr pack, maybe? if so, and you ever want to sell it, let me know... i have one, but someday it will wear out...

T Co
01-15-2012, 12:00 PM
http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x460/Lifeonadirtroad/Swed2.jpg

Thanks for this pic. The shape of the cup makes sense now.

Okbushcraft
01-15-2012, 12:11 PM
Thanks for this pic. The shape of the cup makes sense now.

Yeah, I slapped my forehead after seeing it. I have about 10 of the cups floating around and never figured that out. Thanks for sharing.

econnofoot
01-15-2012, 01:42 PM
I love mine, absolutely bomb proof, heavy though. I only use it more for overnites when I do 'proper' cooking. Generally anytime a place gets them someone sez something here, they are getting harder to come by though. No one I have dealt with recently has stocked them. Think Sportsman Guide had them according to an old thread, last time I saw them mentioned.

Diggin that lid Spork, I need to go on a scrounge for some sheet pans to make me some lids with.

Spork
01-15-2012, 01:51 PM
I've been thinking about adding drainer holes to my lids. Haven't decided where it would work best yet.

fratermus
01-16-2012, 01:23 AM
I have two of the SS SMKs and really like them. I prefer pressure stoves but the SMK is my favorite Trangia setup. I also like the functionality of the windbreak/stand with wood fuel.

Moe M.
01-16-2012, 10:31 AM
I had one, notice the 'had', personally I didn't like the size of the complete kit, and the stove didn't impress me, I've tried other types as well but never really found anything better for me (notice the 'for me') than the old standby GI SS mess kit including a canteen cup w/ lid and canteen cup stove/cup stand, to this I've added a small kettle and home made cat stove.
While my kit does take up as much room as the Swedish model it's more versatile for my kind of camping and cooking, and I can alter my kit to suit the trip plan quite easily by taking it all for week end trips or just taking the canteen cup and stove stand, and my water bottle/cup combo for an overnighter or day hike.

RMB444
01-16-2012, 10:49 AM
I 've had a dutch version for about 30 years ... not as nice as the swedish or german ones... nice for winter hikes where you want hot soups and drinks but I like to have a larger frying pan , so I also carry an old G.I. folding pan/plate.

Panzer
01-16-2012, 10:51 AM
There is no denying the canteen cup and meat can combo are awesome. One thing I am liking about the Swed pot is it's larger, which is great for making soups on a fire. I have not tried the Trangia with the pot yet, but hope to soon.

Ron
01-16-2012, 11:34 AM
I 've had a dutch version for about 30 years ... not as nice as the swedish or german ones... nice for winter hikes where you want hot soups and drinks but I like to have a larger frying pan , so I also carry an old G.I. folding pan/plate.

A Dutch version???
Care to show us that one? Never heard of it, so I'm quite curious.

Andy BB
01-16-2012, 12:21 PM
I have both Alu and s/s, and much prefer the Alu. It's bullet-proof in its own right, and the s/s is therefore overkil (and heavier)l! (And I find the alu cooks food more evenly - the s/s tends to vreate heat-spots as it doesn't distribute the heat as well). Enough scientists have debunked the "aluminum cookwear leads to Altzheimers" myth for it not to worry me (besides, most of my food in the last 50 years has been cooked in alu pans, so the odd additional meal isn't likely to do much more damage!)

The ewindshield on both sets is aluminium - not stainless - only the pans are stainless - so there's no difference there. I have regularly used the windshield as a wood-fire, and although it turns a nice coppery colour and gets a bit softer, its still very usable. ONe of my windshields has had over 50 wood-fire burns in it, and is still fine.

What I like about this set is how flexible it all is. Use the top as a frying pan, the base as a billy on the windshield or hung over a fire, use it as an oven by putting the top/lid on (or inverting it and putting coals in the top pan as well as surrounding the base with coals), you can use the lid as a cup or bowl - the list is endless!

Despite having quite a collection of stoves of all varieties and fuelling sources (so sue me, I'm a stovie!) this tends to be my go-to setup because of its versatility and ruggedness. For the price, I think its unbeatable.

Spork
01-16-2012, 01:19 PM
A Dutch version???
Care to show us that one? Never heard of it, so I'm quite curious.

The Dutch did have the M1915 Messkit made of tin - Link (http://www.militariaplaza.nl/vmchk/holland-dutch/3034-dutch-mess-kit-m15) - but I believe they switched to the Brit pattern messtins later.

whiskersnitch
01-16-2012, 05:03 PM
As for cooking methods.. There is a fella on Ye Ol' Youtube who has deep fried chicken in it, baked in it, and... Turned it into a mini dutch oven. He uses the aluminum variety.

Dutch oven video: http://youtu.be/gZ9PYa-ArjY

brionic
01-16-2012, 05:19 PM
Worth pointing out is that the pot and pan are really similar to the Zebra and Mors pots that get so much run here. Sort of a lopsided version of them, in a way.

Check out Mors Kochanski's excellent pamphlet "The 2 Kilogram Survival Kit" which will give you plenty of ideas on other ways to utilize the space inside your kit.

OrionN49
01-16-2012, 07:07 PM
I love mine. It's my favourite cooking set.
I never had much use for the stove though.

A US canteen cup, Brunton stove, fuel canister, spork and salt & pepper all fit inside it. Then everything goes into an old canvas lantern case.

http://www.orionn49.com/springhike_037a.jpg

http://www.orionn49.com/springhike_049a.jpg

http://www.orionn49.com/Fall_027.jpg

Mathan Moloch
01-16-2012, 07:12 PM
I have one but am missing the wind screen. I went to a local surplus store that used to have them but they were not there this go round.

Any idea on where to get just the wind screen?

DCP
01-16-2012, 07:21 PM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Swedish-Military-Surplus-Mess-Kit-Windscreen-Aluminum-Cook-Stand-NEW-UNISSUED-/300623590588?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item45fe8ff4bc#ht_2654wt_952


I have one but am missing the wind screen. I went to a local surplus store that used to have them but they were not there this go round.

Any idea on where to get just the wind screen?

Mathan Moloch
01-16-2012, 07:41 PM
Thanks, now I will have to see if SWMBO will let me spring for this. Great versatility with these and this is the only part I am missing.

allfatherodin
01-16-2012, 09:25 PM
http://www.militarymart.co.uk//replacement-windsheild-for-swedish-army-trangia-pan-set/prod_1050.html

Replacement there. Nice 'n cheap.

Looker
01-17-2012, 12:16 AM
Panzer- I used to have one but passed it along...

Looker

Exy
06-24-2013, 02:29 AM
I've been looking for 1 or 2 of the kuksa cups.. Just the cups.. Anyone know where I can find any?

Love this thread.. How much does the stainless set weigh? Not that I could ever find one.

IllicitDreams
06-24-2013, 06:48 AM
I've been looking for 1 or 2 of the kuksa cups.. Just the cups.. Anyone know where I can find any?

Love this thread.. How much does the stainless set weigh? Not that I could ever find one.

Not exactly the same but close: http://www.bushcraftoutfitters.com/Wildo-Kasa-Bowl-wildo-kasa.htm

DCP
06-24-2013, 08:37 AM
http://www.militarymart.co.uk/index.php?_a=product&product_id=795

Uk seller but good to deal with and ships to the US

GreatLakesWoodsman
06-25-2013, 08:22 PM
Darn I wish I would have got one of this but I just bought a new pot, how big are they? I

1Machete
03-04-2014, 04:29 PM
Cooking lunch today
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CSMMIKE
03-04-2014, 04:40 PM
I went with the aluminum because it transfers heat better, heats more evenly, and is lighter. Even the aluminum kit is a bit heavy for my liking so I passed on a stainless version. YMMV. We all need to hike our own hikes.

teb_atoz
03-07-2014, 03:03 PM
Stainless is heavier but more durable and many folks are worried about aluminum cookware for the health risks. Also aluminum tends to burn food easier IMHO
Aluminium has no more health risk then stainless steel. It is journalism IGNORANCE that has propagated this fallacy. Just read the original research.
People are to ready to believe a fallacy then learn the truth.
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Lumberjack DK
03-07-2014, 04:09 PM
Here is mine:

http://i1351.photobucket.com/albums/p800/LumberjackDK/Bushcraft/WP_20140205_001_zpsed5f088d.jpg (http://s1351.photobucket.com/user/LumberjackDK/media/Bushcraft/WP_20140205_001_zpsed5f088d.jpg.html)

http://i1351.photobucket.com/albums/p800/LumberjackDK/Bushcraft/WP_20140205_007_zps3ba72d4e.jpg (http://s1351.photobucket.com/user/LumberjackDK/media/Bushcraft/WP_20140205_007_zps3ba72d4e.jpg.html)

http://i1351.photobucket.com/albums/p800/LumberjackDK/Bushcraft/WP_20140205_009_zpsd9af2529.jpg (http://s1351.photobucket.com/user/LumberjackDK/media/Bushcraft/WP_20140205_009_zpsd9af2529.jpg.html)

http://i1351.photobucket.com/albums/p800/LumberjackDK/Bushcraft/WP_20140205_011_zps92adbdad.jpg (http://s1351.photobucket.com/user/LumberjackDK/media/Bushcraft/WP_20140205_011_zps92adbdad.jpg.html)

http://i1351.photobucket.com/albums/p800/LumberjackDK/Bushcraft/WP_20140205_015_zps6e52aaec.jpg (http://s1351.photobucket.com/user/LumberjackDK/media/Bushcraft/WP_20140205_015_zps6e52aaec.jpg.html)

The Stumpy One
03-07-2014, 04:51 PM
I have the steel one, it rides around strapped to the outside of a Swiss s&p canvas bread bag.

Really superb bit of kit! I junked the fuel bottle as it leaked, and use the red plastic Trangia fuel bottle instead. Other than that there is really nothing to go wrong. I have even baked bannock in the larger pan; the frying pan goes on top with some tin foil in it. Hot coals are added to bake from the top, and Lady Stumpy found me a simmer ring (they are scarce as the military burner is larger than the civvy version) so I can bake with managable top and bottom heat.

I have also used the civvy Trangia model 27 since the 70s (the one with the red pans), and the Swedish Army version is really just larger and is built to be as close to squaddy-proof as possible.

Dave_Markowitz
03-07-2014, 07:20 PM
I got some use out of mine last month. I used it to heat water for cleaning the other items we cooked in on a winter overnighter.

http://flintlock.org/pics/var/resizes/Bushcraft/Feb2014/IMG_2439.jpg?m=1391384018