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Awasos
03-05-2012, 08:50 PM
It would be interesting if members of Bushcraft USA were to develop a "challenge coin" that could be carried by members to signify their membership similar to the patches. Good idea/Bad idea??
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/8/87/USMCBDayCoinHeads.jpg/220px-USMCBDayCoinHeads.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Challenge_coin

XgenBarlow
03-05-2012, 08:57 PM
Darn good idea bud.

Seeker
03-05-2012, 09:47 PM
like a metal bushcraft patch.

i'm indifferent. think it's a good idea, but wouldn't buy one myself, if that makes sense... kinda like Coke, tofu, or brussel sprouts... they should be for sale, and other people like them, just not me.

ohski
03-05-2012, 10:38 PM
Good idea but $$$ if I remember correctly... been quite some time since I was part of any being made though.

Ski

Grizzix
03-05-2012, 11:05 PM
I'd like to know what they cost before anyone went out and had them made but if reasonably priced I'd definitely but one. Side note, This is the one I received when we closed down Sierra Army Depot(Weapons Depot) in California.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y69/grizzix/Bush%20Class/2012-03-05_23-00-53_326.jpg

SDS
03-05-2012, 11:06 PM
The last time I had any made they ended up costing roughly $3.50 each. The art fees on the front end are where a lot of the cost comes from. I think I ordered 300 (maybe 325) and the total cost was somewhere around $1100.

SDS

Grizzix
03-05-2012, 11:10 PM
If BCUSA had them made and charged $7-$10ea for them then it would be worth the overhead but only if they had committed buyers.

ohski
03-05-2012, 11:21 PM
If BCUSA had them made and charged $7-$10ea for them then it would be worth the overhead but only if they had committed buyers.

For sure, I would be in if they were $15 or less... Just not sure how many would actually buy them once they were ordered.

Ski

Leif
03-05-2012, 11:32 PM
Fill me in fellas. I was not in the Military. What does a challenge coin represent?

Would it be an insult for us to use them?

What would ours represent?

Grizzix
03-05-2012, 11:48 PM
Commanders and Sgt Majors would carry them around and present them to soldiers that they thought were going "above and beyond" but rather than a formal award for their efforts it was on the spot. I feel that made it more personal. Not sure where they originated but soldiers would use them when they went out and if someone called a coin challenge the last soldier to present their coin bought the group a round of drinks. I never used mine as such. To me they were just something to collect. My sons ROTC flight carries coins and they have challenges. The loser brings soda for the class the next day.

econnofoot
03-06-2012, 12:20 AM
I could dig it, but with the rockers for bushclass, that I doubt they are breaking even on, I couldn't see it being feasible, I don't know how financially viable it'd be. I'd be into it as a challenge prize type deal or something. Could see it developing into a cool thing.

I don't really have any use for a patch and rockers, but I'll buy them just for the site being here.

A supporter medallion, maybe one that is a steel striker? Now there is an idea.

WoodsJack
03-06-2012, 12:26 AM
Purchased?

I dunno', but strikes me that a "real" bush crafter member would make something of their own. Me, I'm still carvin' one by hand outa' ivory. How 'bout you?

There's the "challenge".

QFry
03-06-2012, 12:43 AM
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7061/6812013088_953f4c0556.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/75601487@N06/6812013088/)
Challeng coins 002 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/75601487@N06/6812013088/) by QFry (http://www.flickr.com/people/75601487@N06/), on Flickr

I would have to get one...

AlteredMentalStatus
03-06-2012, 01:03 AM
lot of groups have them Skog....ITS Tactical has this one:
http://www.itstactical.com/store/its-tactical-challenge-coin/

Seeker
03-06-2012, 08:06 AM
when i was in the 2nd Cavalry (86-90), ours had a serial number on them... lowest number won the challenge, and the higher number (or coinless person) bought the drink.

Grizzix
03-06-2012, 08:50 AM
Purchased?

I dunno', but strikes me that a "real" bush crafter member would make something of their own. Me, I'm still carvin' one by hand outa' ivory. How 'bout you?

There's the "challenge".

I understand where you're coming from and commend you on your ability to do this but I have to whole heartedly disagree with this being some kind of lithmus test on weather or not I am a "real bushcrafter". Just because I'm not skilled enough to carve a token doesn't mean I can't hold my own in the woods or am any less dedicated to this site and its members.

Grizz

Amoskeag
03-06-2012, 09:05 AM
http://www.scoutstuff.org/good-turn-coin.html (http://www.scoutstuff.org/good-turn-coin.html)
Even Boy Scouts has one
I'd buy one at $10
Bob

GMScooter
03-06-2012, 09:11 AM
I'm curious if/where this goes.

Sgt. Mac
03-06-2012, 09:15 AM
I think its a great idea

Kimber45guy
03-06-2012, 09:21 AM
I think its a great idea

+1

Military or not it's just like our patches. It's something you take pride in, and something to remind you of the good stuff in life. Just my .02.

ohski
03-06-2012, 12:13 PM
I'm curious if/where this goes.

If I'm understanding your question right a person would carry it in their pocket... or like me I keep all my old coins on my dresser as a keep sake.

Maybe you could put it in your pocket when you went to the woods to use as a motivator... as in gee, I really don't feel like practicing a 3 times the prep fire today... Hmmmm, what is this in my pocket? Yea, I can do it and do it I will...!


Just my thoughts on the subject anyway... Ski

Swampmanbenn
03-06-2012, 12:29 PM
If I'm understanding your question right a person would carry it in their pocket... or like me I keep all my old coins on my dresser as a keep sake.

Maybe you could put it in your pocket when you went to the woods to use as a motivator... as in gee, I really don't feel like practicing a 3 times the prep fire today... Hmmmm, what is this in my pocket? Yea, I can do it and do it I will...!


Just my thoughts on the subject anyway... Ski

i like that thought id for sure pony up and buy one or two !!!

bearkat
03-06-2012, 12:57 PM
That's funny we were just talking about this today at work. Most of my coworkers are veterans.

If there are any forum members currently serving in Korea, that would be the place to have them made. It would be cheaper...then again the shipping cost might negate any savings.

Either way i'd like one.

EdD270
03-06-2012, 01:36 PM
I like the idea. Not sure what they would wind up costing, or how many would sell.
It would be fun to have some at a bushcrafter get together, or BCUSA sponsored event like Woodsmoke for example, and get them there for accomplishment of some skill or phase of training or for putting on a demonstration. Maybe for completing BushClass Basic and Intermediate levels?

edit: I'd buy one or two.

Lead Dog
03-06-2012, 01:37 PM
I think it is a good idea. This is a great site and very different from others in that it promotes a close-knit fraternity. Something like a challenge coin would be like an ID to remind us of who we are and what we enjoy (not that we would forget).

There have been several times that I've been at work (I work in an office in downtown Chicago which is pretty unbushcrafty) and reached into my pocket for my work ID and bumped into my pocket knife. Doing so often reminds me of where I'd rather be and that enjoying the outdoors is part of who I am. I imagine a challenge coin would do the same.

Just my $0.02.

NELABushman
03-06-2012, 01:52 PM
i like that thought id for sure pony up and buy one or two !!!

Big plus one on this. I'd deff. Buy two or three.


-Dave-
Dia Leat.

Capt. Redbush
03-06-2012, 03:15 PM
Plus me on it! I would buy at least one. I have mine from Navy, though I don't carry it anymore for fear of losing it. It is on my dresser now. I do have to admit though, having a drill socket or ability to be used as a striker would be pretty awesome! Probably not very feasible, but awesome nonetheless!!

WoodsJack
03-06-2012, 05:27 PM
I understand where you're coming from and commend you on your ability to do this but I have to whole heartedly disagree with this being some kind of lithmus test on weather or not I am a "real bushcrafter". Just because I'm not skilled enough to carve a token doesn't mean I can't hold my own in the woods or am any less dedicated to this site and its members.

Grizz

Well, my tongue was in my cheek as I wrote that, thus the quotes.

So don't carve, do wood burning. Stitching. Etc.

I guess I snagged on the idea of "challenge" and the whole "merit badge" kind of concept, as a manifest symbol of specific achievement, rather than more stuff to buy.

That said, yes, of course I bought a coupla' BC-USA fabric patches. But I suppose that's kinda' like "honoring" and "recognizing" and "awarding" myself, isn't it? Not that there's anything wrong with that ...

:18:

econnofoot
03-06-2012, 06:45 PM
Something along the lines of a 'Hobo Nickle' might be interesting. I was talking about it with one of my co workers who has seen some in my collection.

It'd be easy enough to stamp something out, if find right place to do it.

PMSteve
03-06-2012, 06:52 PM
Personally, I think that the BCUSA Patch is good to go. A coin in my pocket that I can't spend is excess baggage. JMHO

Iz
03-06-2012, 11:56 PM
I'd buy one.

Mtnfolk Mike
03-07-2012, 12:04 AM
i like the idea, and probably would get one..:)

tennecedar
03-07-2012, 01:05 AM
I'd buy a couple or more.

Clovishunter
03-07-2012, 06:42 AM
I brought this idea up for the completion of the Bushclass certification levels it was frowned on just sayin'

uscgboatie
03-08-2012, 02:44 PM
Something like this would be a nice keepsake and identifier beyond the patch. We had some made for my department and my unit. Nice to have something "dressy" to have when not in bushy attire. Also makes a valuable trade item if 1 shot runs of differing designs or subjects.

Folks who diddent get in on them anytime we had them made were begging for them when they finally saw them in person.

Mudinyeri
03-08-2012, 03:55 PM
Personally, I think that the BCUSA Patch is good to go. A coin in my pocket that I can't spend is excess baggage. JMHO

How about a wooden Nickel? At least you could make tinder out of it if you needed to. :D

mahaney
03-13-2012, 11:14 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Challenge_coin

Here you go guys, the reason coins were invented. Basically they are a morale booster given by the highest enlisted and or commander to signify an outstanding job or deed. Some units or even shops have had there own made to show pride in that work place. So long story short, they are a highly saught after but fairly pointless item (at least nowadays). But I cant say much, I am a coin ##### myself.

J

Homeslice
03-13-2012, 11:22 AM
I have one that was given to me by a member on another forum and I think they are pretty cool. I guess I just like to collect stuff like that.

Would they be something just available to purchase from BCO by anyone? Or would they be for graduates of the BushClass? Or some other qualification?

Personally, I think it might be cool to have them as a final "patch" when you finish the entire BushClass series. That might put more meaning behind them, rather than just having it be something you bought.

crashdive
03-13-2012, 09:10 PM
For what it's worth....

I'm having some made for one of the Veterans groups I am affiliated with. One vendor (huge supplier of military memorabilia) - for a very basic, two sided challenge coin it $50 set-up and $6.35 per coin - minimum order is 100. At 200 the price drops to $5.00 per coin. A couple of our members travel MAC flights around the world (retired and single) and are sourcing some in Korea where we can probably get a bit fancier coin for just under $5.00 each for an order of 100.

Mattexian
03-13-2012, 11:06 PM
http://www.scoutstuff.org/good-turn-coin.html (http://www.scoutstuff.org/good-turn-coin.html)
Even Boy Scouts has one
I'd buy one at $10
Bob

I've got one of those, buried with the rest of my Scouting gear, hadn't thought about it in quite a while. Somewhere I've got the only challenge coin I was truly awarded, by our Major General when I had completed our "basic" in the Texas State Guard, but I can't put my hands on it right now. (I know, boo hiss, round's on me.) I've bought a couple for myself since then, one for the Appleseed Project (http://www.appleseedstore.flyingcart.com/?p=detail&pid=8&cat_id=0), another from Shields of Strength (http://www.shieldsofstrength.com/prodbrands_detail.cfm?catID=1&ProductID=217), and those are tucked in a neck ID pouch, to keep them safe *and* accessible.

Just a thought: if you want one bad enough, couldn't you take one of the forum patches to a trophy shop and get it bronzed? :3:

Matt in Tx

ezra45
03-14-2012, 08:31 AM
Quote:"Just a thought: if you want one bad enough, couldn't you take one of the forum patches to a trophy shop and get it bronzed?"

And carry one that size in your codpiece? :)

Regards,

ezra

wulfesinger67
03-14-2012, 10:22 PM
im in!

VT-Rogue
03-16-2012, 05:50 AM
I have designed a coin or two over the years. The expensive part is the first mint where they must make the die. They can range from $400.00 to $600.00 for a minting of 100 coins the first round. After that $200.00 less for subsequent mintings as the die is cast so to speak. I would be happy to assist with the design if & when the decision is made to go ahead with the project.

Osteth
03-16-2012, 07:03 AM
Challenge coins are given to enlisted personnel by officers for a job well done, the challenge behind the coin comes from an old drinking game ( we sailors expecialy like to play) were when you go out on liberty ( time off work for all non mil) in a foreign port you all bring you highest rank officers coin and when it come down to who has to pay the tab you all throw your coins on te bar and whoever has the lowers rank officers coin or the least interesting coin has to pay depending on how you play which usually leads to hours of sea stories and more drinking and good times At the next bar.
Personally, I see no reasons why it would be disrespectful to use them it would be a neet handoff to give to people who don't know much about bushcraft sorta like a bushcraft business card.

Also on an interesting side note every time a navy ships mast is installed on a ship the captain of the ships coin is place under the mast and is stamped into the wood by the weight of the mast being dropped down onto it but with today's modern steel masts the tradition is kept alive by welding the coin into a small metal box under the mast were it can only be reached every time the mast is removed for repairs the box is also used as a small time capsule now days

QFry
03-16-2012, 07:56 PM
Challenge coins are given to enlisted personnel by officers for a job well done...
...Cant forget about the Goat Locker coins and Inspection Team coins...:4:


Also on an interesting side note every time a navy ships mast is installed on a ship the captain of the ships coin is place under the mast and is stamped into the wood by the weight of the mast being dropped down onto it but with today's modern steel masts the tradition is kept alive by welding the coin into a small metal box under the mast were it can only be reached every time the mast is removed for repairs the box is also used as a small time capsule now days

Most subs have the ship's Coin welded in the Engine Room somewhere...usually hidden and a part of a N.U.B.'s qual process to find it...:16:

Mr.Black
03-16-2012, 08:43 PM
Im Proud of the Tradition and History and some are works of art...
http://i1092.photobucket.com/albums/i401/operationalextras/compassandcoins026.jpg
http://i1092.photobucket.com/albums/i401/operationalextras/compassandcoins029.jpg
http://i1092.photobucket.com/albums/i401/operationalextras/compassandcoins036.jpg
http://i1092.photobucket.com/albums/i401/operationalextras/compassandcoins039.jpg
http://i1092.photobucket.com/albums/i401/operationalextras/compassandcoins040.jpg
http://i1092.photobucket.com/albums/i401/operationalextras/compassandcoins035.jpg
http://i1092.photobucket.com/albums/i401/operationalextras/compassandcoins024.jpg


But You just cant beat good old utilitarian models lol
http://i1092.photobucket.com/albums/i401/operationalextras/compassandcoins018.jpg

Two Bears
03-17-2012, 08:18 AM
You guys that want something like this search the net for geocoins, you might find something that everybody can agree on that would be good for this site. I just saw one that I liked, I was an old fashioned compassion rose, but it was $20.00 at Amazon. I saw a lot that was cheaper but nothing pertaining to bushcrafting. If you looked better than I did you might find something already out there and not have to pay for the minting and art work.

Toddg
03-26-2012, 02:27 PM
I would be in on this!

Hawkcreek
04-09-2012, 12:54 AM
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh29/HawkCreek_photos/DSCN0459-1.jpg

I'd be in for a few BCUSA challenge coins. Maybe make it an option to buy one after you complete the basic class?

Hiker41
04-12-2012, 09:35 AM
I think its a great idea.I would maybe order a few,one for myself and some to hand out to friends I have met on here.

Horned Toad
04-12-2012, 01:45 PM
I'd be in for a few BCUSA challenge coins. Maybe make it an option to buy one after you complete the basic class?

Iím not too big on the thought just because in the military you are supposed to earn them. So if the powers that be wanted to do one I agree with the above where it should at least be tied into some sort of requirements to get one other than forking over some cash.

karlhungusjr
04-14-2012, 02:31 AM
I guess us Navy guys can just say BZ to each other.

derek.harris87
04-19-2012, 02:29 AM
I'd be down. Been collecting challenge coins for awhile now.

or rather, earning them.

rlh2
09-10-2012, 01:22 AM
I know this is a little old, but I would really like to see these come to reality.

Backcountry Patriot
09-11-2012, 01:13 AM
I think it is a great idea. I do think should earn it though, as people have mentioned. I think becoming a "Hardwoodsman" from completing the Bushclass challenges would be a bar for the challenge coin to be earned at. After you become a hardwoodsman for example you would have the ability to purchase the coin to remind you of your achievement. As people have mentioned, it would be a good motivator in life or in the woods. If you are struggling with something you can remember with your coin that you worked hard and you became a hardwoodsman so if you can do that you can do this!

Jbass0760
09-11-2012, 01:38 AM
We have them for our SRT medics and our Ops manager use to give them out. I know its big with LE and FD in my area. Id be down to pick one up, but I've put off the patch and rocker until I finish the basic class. I like the idea to have it be able to toss a spark or as a scraper. I like function over fashion.

Joel B.
10-03-2012, 11:00 PM
I'd like to see if a coin could be made that could have a number of different functions. Firesteel scraper has been said already. How about a compass rose on one side with a divot in the middle as a way to balance a magnetized needle. Of course testing would have to be done to ensure that the coin would not interfere with the reading of the makeshift compass. Some useful information engraved on the coin would be nice as well. A series of holes drilled in the coin to make it used as a button or toggle for closing a wool blanket or pack. But I must say that the coin must have several uses to be worth carrying around.

Gav
10-04-2012, 12:04 AM
I think it's a good idea. I'd buy one. Still gotta get a patch too.

TLewallen
10-04-2012, 05:52 AM
How about building in the ability to use the coin as a socket for a bow drill setup?

ashman
10-04-2012, 06:42 AM
I would be interested

BradGad
10-04-2012, 07:28 AM
I like this idea, but if we do it, I hope the coins are small: real estate in my pockets is at a premium.

MarcoMontana
10-04-2012, 07:46 AM
I have the BCUSA patch on my pack along with my Fishing patches if there was another BCUSA member I am sure he would say hi...


http://www.bushcraftoutfitters.com/images/1302711419528-1208565703.jpeg

SamD
10-04-2012, 09:37 AM
That's funny we were just talking about this today at work. Most of my coworkers are veterans.

If there are any forum members currently serving in Korea, that would be the place to have them made. It would be cheaper...then again the shipping cost might negate any savings.

Either way i'd like one.

Not if Them member getting them was US Military then just use a USPS flat rate box!

SamD
10-04-2012, 09:44 AM
I would buy one, but think you should be a "Supporter" to be able to buy one.

Long John Tinfoil
04-16-2013, 11:00 PM
Guess this never got off the ground?

I have one from another forum that I use as a "decision assist" - especially useful when the trail forks...

LJT

Shnick
04-16-2013, 11:06 PM
Patches did:
http://www.bushcraftoutfitters.com/BCUSAcom-Gear_c3.htm
Mint fees can be steep for coins.

Long John Tinfoil
04-16-2013, 11:08 PM
Yea, but it's hard to flip a patch if there's any kind of a breeze when you can't make up your mind...

LJT

pure_mahem
04-17-2013, 02:03 AM
As another add on to this idea it could be a Geo Coin it would serve double duty as the challenge coin. I'd be in for at least one.

Bockster13
04-17-2013, 06:29 AM
How about a wooden Nickel? At least you could make tinder out of it if you needed to. :D

"LIKE" also seen them made like Casino gambling chips.

JEB
04-17-2013, 06:46 AM
I got one years ago and it sits in the desk drawer almost from the time I got it from an E-9 Marine Master Sgt. I got one last two weeks ago from Gyt Sgt R. Lee Ermey when I met him at a Cabela's opening. I passed that one on to a paralyzed Marine buddy of mine. Don't think I would pick one up. I am too old to challenge anyone to anything and besides I quit drinking when I got home in 1969.

adkwalker
04-17-2013, 07:36 AM
I would be in for one to support the forum

Lerxst2112
04-17-2013, 07:43 AM
So who is going to produce these for the folks that want one? I am willing to purchase one, at a modest premium above cost, if the proceeds go to support the forum, or some other endeavor towards our shared passion.

1773
04-17-2013, 07:56 AM
I am a big fan of the coins and don't particularly care for patches so while I probably would never buy a patch, I probably would a coin. Though I have never bought a challenge coin, I have several that have been "awarded" but if the design was nice for the bushcraft coin, I probably would buy it because it is a different environment so to speak that where my other ones came from.

cmniswonge
04-17-2013, 08:06 AM
Love this idea. I'd buy a handfull. In my line of work they are a familiar sight and they always mean more when given or earned than when purchased for oneself. I could see getting together with some buddies and having challenges amongst them to earn one in competition; plinking targets with a .22, firecrafting, etc.

Most that I've seen range in cost from 7-12 bucks when being purchased by the end user. I think that is reasonable and I'd probably buy 2-5 of them at those prices.

Cole

Bush Otter
04-17-2013, 09:18 AM
I'm in , thanks.

sledjockey
04-17-2013, 09:24 AM
I'd be in as well.

Did this ever go anywhere other than the "idea" bin?

MLarson
06-05-2013, 08:37 PM
If price is a big issue they could always be made out of wood. Like the wooden nickels. Would be really cheap to laser cut/etch them in bulk. Not sure if I'd ever buy them in either metal or wood but just figured I'd throw the idea out there.

Mr.LCV
06-05-2013, 08:46 PM
I'd buy a metal one if it was wood I'd be too tempted to use it as a emergency fire tinder

NoseWarmer
06-05-2013, 08:55 PM
I'd buy a metal one if it was wood I'd be too tempted to use it as a emergency fire tinder

That would fit bush craft the best... Or heavy stamped leather...

Redwolf
06-05-2013, 08:56 PM
I think its a great idea


+1

Military or not it's just like our patches. It's something you take pride in, and something to remind you of the good stuff in life. Just my .02.


Agree with both!

I'm in if it comes to fruition.