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luke2236
10-07-2012, 12:09 AM
Folks, I'm in need of some help here.It seems that the higher ups at work think that we souldn't have pocket knives anymore(although we carry pistols and rifles as part of our jobs).However the new proceedure clearly states that we are allowed to carry a fixed blade knife as long as the cutting edge is less than 3 inches and under 7 or 6(can't remember right now)inches in overall length.What I need from the fine folks here is, if anybody carries a small fixed blade for edc could you please post a pic or atleast tell me how you like it and how you carry it, (keep in mind I'm wearing a gunbelt already loaded down with stuff.)
Thanks for everyones help!!!


P.S. This ban also included multi-tools gotta love working for the feds.

Ned
10-07-2012, 12:21 AM
Yes, most neck knives will fit into your criteria! This is the one I carry, the Folt's Minimalist (Bowie style blade - it also comes in Tanto and Wharncliffe) from CRKT, with just over a 2" blade...

http://cyclopsphoto.ca/galleries/survival/CRKT_Minimalist_med.png

These knives are incredible work-horses which will handle heavy duty tasks just like a big knife, but can fit easily in your pocket... or around your neck as a pendant on your chain.

Many also like the Becker neck knives, and there are many others to choose from. I've often shopped from CRKT simply because they tend to have stout yet compact designs which fit my needs. I'm a big fan of neck knives because I can unobtrusively carry them anywhere without giving up the sturdiness of a fixed blade. Not necessarily as a neck knife, but often in my pocket. I prefer neck carry but many of my older neck knives I carried in the pocket because the sheathes didn't lock as positive. The Minimalist I carry around the neck because it does have a nice positive lock.

rdec
10-07-2012, 12:37 AM
A very nice pocket sized fixed blade in the Woodswalker by A.G. Russell. He even sells a leather pocket sheath for it.

I have to wonder about the reason for such a ban, however. Is your agency run by the intellectually challenged? Do they also ban pliers and nail files?

luke2236
10-07-2012, 01:02 AM
A very nice pocket sized fixed blade in the Woodswalker by A.G. Russell. He even sells a leather pocket sheath for it.

I have to wonder about the reason for such a ban, however. Is your agency run by the intellectually challenged? Do they also ban pliers and nail files?

LOL I'm begining to think they are challenged myself,one person nicks a finger and needs a bandaid and the response is to "ban them all", still doesn't make sense that we can have a fixed blade.

LMT66
10-07-2012, 01:47 AM
Fallkniven WM1 is a great blade.

stanley_white
10-07-2012, 04:46 AM
I carry a 2.5" bladed model by custom maker Michael Morris.

He seems to specialize, more than any other maker I have seen, in small fixed blades for pocket, belt, or neck carry.

His prices are reasonable too.

-Stan

Youcantreadinthedark
10-07-2012, 05:17 AM
Yes, most neck knives will fit into your criteria! This is the one I carry, the Folt's Minimalist (Bowie style blade - it also comes in Tanto and Wharncliffe) from CRKT, with just over a 2" blade...


I've had one of these...I gave it away to a gas station attendant, because it is useless. If you have anything like man-sized hands, they're impossible to control. You can only get three fingers on the handle, and you have to hold it with your palm open and your fingers out, which means you can't get nearly full force behind the blade, and you can't get a thumb on the blade to direct what force you can get. I've handled the Minimalist and the S.P.E.W (small pocket everyday wharncliffe). Both designed by Alan Folts, both are attractive knives, and are very secure in their sheaths, but I found both of them too delicate to do anything with.
A much more safe and ergonomic grip comes on the ESEE/RAT Izula II, which I also have, and that is a workhorse of a knife. It costs about twenty bucks more than a Folts, but is about twenty times more versatile.

bharner
10-07-2012, 06:07 AM
I often carry my ESEE izula in my pockets. With the addition of some scales it holds well. 2.87" blade.

Tapatalk ate my spelling and grammar.

Buckhenry
10-07-2012, 06:28 AM
I carry my Dozier Canoe 2 7/8" blade and a very comfortable kydex sheath.
Buckhenry

Thebelt
10-07-2012, 06:37 AM
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I carry a BHK lil Muk in a KSF city sheath. Holds my credit cards, ids, and my blade.

Fluke
10-07-2012, 07:23 AM
ESEE Izula is a perfect carry option for you.

sptpr
10-07-2012, 07:38 AM
a discreet option from benchmade...

i should have said the choice and method of carry is best explained by a specific protocol regarding weapon retention. a BK-11 rides in a pocket.

mneedham
10-07-2012, 07:54 AM
Robert Jones Little Bugger with a pocket sheath. Great blade at a great price:
http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj259/mneedham_photos/DSCF2082.jpg

Dragon63005
10-07-2012, 07:54 AM
ESee izula is a great option. I also have a edc kephart from John at Jk knives. A real looker and a work horse.

Riverwarrior
10-07-2012, 07:59 AM
As already mentioned, the ESEE "Izula" is a great pocket fixed blade. Another ESEE blade that could easily be carried in the pocket is the "Candiru". You can see it here next to my Izula II.

http://imageshack.us/a/img221/3999/eseelightc.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/221/eseelightc.jpg/)

Machine27
10-07-2012, 08:12 AM
Here's my favorite small fixed blade. Made by John Kiedaisch, he has a forum over on bladeforums.com. If you're willing to go the custom route look em up.

http://imageshack.us/a/img189/5947/fatlighter.jpg

hastings
10-07-2012, 08:21 AM
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hastings
10-07-2012, 08:23 AM
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af199/hastingshastings/2012-09-22_12-11-14_284_zps47594923.jpg BHK drover is a nice small fixed blade

Sandcut
10-07-2012, 08:23 AM
I second (or would that be fourth or fifth) the ESEE Izula. I bought one off a memeber here and I love it.

As far as pocket carry goes, I'm sorry, but anything that large is going to start to become seriously inconvenient in your pocket. I'm going to say that front pocket carry is right out. You'll find yourself moving and giving yourself blunt force trauma on your naughty bits or at least your thigh and side depending on how you bend. Not something you need to concern yourself with in a tactical situation (which it sounds like you may find yourself in.)

Rear hip pocket carry is an option. This (with any knife this size) would be inconvient for two reasons. One, it will protrude from the pocket and runs the risk of working its way out. Not something you want when dealing with prisoner areas. And two, it makes drawing the knife a 2-handed action instead of a 1-handed motion since you have to withdraw the knife with one hand and remove the plastic sheath with the other. Most linerlocks w/ thumb stud opener are WAY more convenient.

The plastic sheath on the Izula, in my mind, provides much more protection than does the leather sheath on some other knives. Very important if the blade is riding in your front pocket directly over your femoral artery. It also provides some lashing options and could be one more thing on your duty belt.

My advice is to try to find someone in your command chain that is sympathetic to your cause and point out the tactical disadvantages and dangers that will result from this myopic policy change. You may even want to get together with some guys (off the clock) and make a small video demonstrating this and run it up your command chain. From my experience, urban-office dwelling executives generally don't understand the conditions under which field-level, ground pounders operate. Just weigh your options vs. your command chain. A buddy of mine attempted something similar to this years ago and was labeled as being "subversive" by his Branch Chief.

Good luck with it.

kinzei
10-07-2012, 08:40 AM
You can't go wrong with an ESEE Izula II. Built like a tank, 2.88" blade, 6 3/4 overall length, and ESEE's 100% life time no questions ask warranty! Plus, there are quite a few after market accessory options.

http://i1162.photobucket.com/albums/q529/kinzei1971/P8200001_zps6431165d.jpg
http://i1162.photobucket.com/albums/q529/kinzei1971/P8200004_zpseb4c6d26.jpg

woodsghost
10-07-2012, 08:40 AM
Here is one of my EDCs. The knife is in the top right. It is a Ka-Bar, BK 14 Eskabar. I highly recommend it.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8433/7627332424_40bb01c0cb_c.jpg

Edit: I just remembered the 3 inch blade requirement. I believe my BK 14 has closer to a 3 1/4 blade/edge, and it might be advertised as 3.5. Just a heads up. If it is over the limit, you can always regrind it.

sptpr
10-07-2012, 09:17 AM
although the pics may tell it all, i didn't point out in my previous post the method of attachment. a leather hole punch and a couple of small cable ties offer all kinds of options for discreet gear/gun belt carry for a variety of types of small fixed blades. access vs. 'discretion'. different sized pouches may make different sized blade/handle cominbations possible, although much more than a skeleton stock tends to become obvious. the key, imho, is to mount them in such a way that it is not obvious. a second sheath, or better yet an identical knife, supports non-duty carry. i know it's not exactly bushcrafty, but hopefully it supports the original question.

hillst1
10-07-2012, 09:24 AM
I carry a Koster WSS in CPM3V.
http://kosterknives.com/knives/wss/

madmax
10-07-2012, 09:24 AM
I got one built to my specs. A little more cash. But it's what I want. Wish I'ld just popped for it in the beginning. I would've saved $$.

hitrekker
10-07-2012, 09:36 AM
The problem with neck carry is that it's not very convenient unless you wear it ON TOP of your shirt which would be a no no for some/ most people. Sure you can be "unobtrusive" and carry it against your skin but you're going to get some strange looks when you reach under your shirt every time you need to cut open an envelope...

IMO neck carry is fine for bushcraft (though I prefer belt or pocket) but for EDC in an office type environment it has to be pocket or belt carry for me.

Ranger
10-07-2012, 09:44 AM
Izula, BHK , or one from a small company called Shadow Tech.

briarbrow
10-07-2012, 09:48 AM
this was my pocket knife for a long time. it started on my belt, then my sheath started to fail. Kept it in a cut down the plastic mora scabbard it came with.
after discovering bcusa i started getting more knives lol
mod Frost's sloyd: http://i956.photobucket.com/albums/ae48/Briarbrow/edc001.jpg

madhappy
10-07-2012, 10:22 AM
http://i1202.photobucket.com/albums/bb362/Madhappy401/002-1.jpg

Elwha
10-07-2012, 11:43 AM
This one, Made by Mike Wilson, is just over 6 inches and is displays great craftsmanship.

http://i1221.photobucket.com/albums/dd478/utah_fish/IMG_1824.jpg

http://i1221.photobucket.com/albums/dd478/utah_fish/IMG_1825.jpg

rahan27
10-07-2012, 12:12 PM
Top to bottom: Esse izula, fallkniven wm-1, Daniel Koster WSS knife, John Kiedaisch aka JK Knives "hiking buddy", benchmade 210 activator (my personal favorite from the bunch), another JK (can't remember the name)

http://i1037.photobucket.com/albums/a458/tek7727/sreelstuff/IMG_0004_small.jpg
http://i1037.photobucket.com/albums/a458/tek7727/sreelstuff/IMG_0015_small.jpg

fishin4guitars
10-07-2012, 12:47 PM
Here's the one I carry
https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/p206x206/397224_503435766336089_817476071_n.jpg
Unfortunately, the flash picks out all the flaws. At least the ones not normally visible :9:.

Kevinthewise
10-07-2012, 12:50 PM
I currently EDC a Maverick Colt. in a KSF Allegheny Pocket Sheath.

http://www.blindhorseknives.com/colt.htm

Tristar777
10-07-2012, 01:03 PM
Hi. I go with the CRKT "Two Shot". Its a semi skinner whith a nice leather belt sheath that can be used in many ways. Ive adapted mine to hold a compass and small flint n steel. Sorry no pics.

kyhunt
10-07-2012, 01:06 PM
I've crried this Fallkniven for almost 2 years. Wife and kids bought it for me for Christmas.

http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z233/Kyhunt/001-2.jpg

PMSteve
10-07-2012, 01:07 PM
The Fallkniven WM-1 was mentioned earlier by LMT66. Here's mine in a self-made neck sheath, second from left in both pics:

http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc501/pmsteve/IM000657.jpg

http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc501/pmsteve/IM000656.jpg

Left to right: Keith Murr Small Companion; Fallkniven WM-1; Boker Voxnaes Rhino; Brusletto Balder.

Steve

SkunkBear
10-07-2012, 01:29 PM
i carry the pendleton mini hunter, 3" blade and 6 1/4" over all. the only thing i dont like about it is the sheath. need to make one

SB

Long John Tinfoil
10-07-2012, 01:47 PM
If your small fixed blade has a sheath with a "dangler" like you see on some set-ups, you can attach it to your belt and then flip it inside your pants for EDC. May occasionally require adjustment for comfort and access, but easing your waistband isn't too conspicuous. That might, though, make it a "concealed" carry in some jurisdictions.

LJT

peppermack
10-07-2012, 02:21 PM
My EDC is a Strider SLCC. This one is over 3" (3.5") and it rides in my right front pocket in the pocket sheath that I made for it. The knife pictured and this sheath ride lower than the one shown in the second pic. The top of the handle is flush with the top of my pocket with only the lanyard hanging out. I can adapt this to any small fixated blade. Hit me up if you ever want one for whatever knife you end up with.

http://i377.photobucket.com/albums/oo211/peppermack/B8F2DD13-0CCF-493F-8AB0-1CDD1D5CDB94-21980-00001EE863082570.jpg

http://i377.photobucket.com/albums/oo211/peppermack/3D7EFD35-87A2-42ED-BC26-2831FCCBC606-10311-00000C69A1F1D4E5.jpg

SlayerOfBunnies
10-08-2012, 08:00 PM
I carry and use my Becker BK11 all the time. It's fantastic! As to a previous poster that claims that front pocket carry is right out - poppycock. I'm relaxing in my home right now and my BK11 is still in my front pocket. To me, it seems comfortable and convenient.

http://imageshack.us/a/img7/5469/20120412img1882.jpg

luke2236
10-08-2012, 08:43 PM
I carry and use my Becker BK11 all the time. It's fantastic! As to a previous poster that claims that front pocket carry is right out - poppycock. I'm relaxing in my home right now and my BK11 is still in my front pocket. To me, it seems comfortable and convenient.

http://imageshack.us/a/img7/5469/20120412img1882.jpg

Wow I really like that set up any details on the sheath?

Taliesin
10-08-2012, 08:49 PM
I pocket carry a small fixed blade all the time in my right front jeans pocket. It's a little Colt Baby Clip Point Hunter. I hope to upgrade at Christmas to a Boker Tom Krien Pocket Bowie, an Esee Izula or a Candiru.

Skab
10-08-2012, 08:52 PM
I've been sporting this Bark River Bravo Necker in a pocket sheath I made for it. And it is fast becoming my favored edc.

http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h103/kkustoms/2305f1f9.jpg

http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h103/kkustoms/169bd041.jpg

Schwert
10-08-2012, 09:20 PM
Gene Ingram makes a host of small fixed pocket knives ranging in lengths that would easily fit the bill...here are a few of mine.


Ingram seacow wharncliffe

http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/8847/nessmuknavyplug37596ww.jpg

Ingram GWB stag

http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/3562/ingramgwb5500651xh9.jpg

And his SLK

http://img116.exs.cx/img116/7805/SLKCRBM2.jpg

ALwoodsman
10-08-2012, 09:28 PM
I have been carrying a ESEE Izula for a while now. When I am at work I just keep it in the sheath in my pocket. What part of N AL are you from?

rlh2
10-09-2012, 04:02 AM
I'm not sure what capacity you are in, but if uniformed, this is what I have found to work. The KaBar TDI worn right behind my mag pouch. I do not care of neck carry while on duty for safety reasons, but this should get the job done if need be. The one I have has a serated blade, but they also come in standard and partially serated. The blade is 2 5/16" long with a total length of 5 5/8". About $32.00.

http://i676.photobucket.com/albums/vv128/rlh2_photo/knife.jpg

http://i676.photobucket.com/albums/vv128/rlh2_photo/knife1.jpg

http://i676.photobucket.com/albums/vv128/rlh2_photo/knife2.jpg

Raider197500
10-09-2012, 05:26 AM
Its already been said a 100 times IZULA love mine so light dont even know its there and a no ?'s asked warranty hard to beat

gobblegobble
10-09-2012, 07:14 AM
I too carry the CRKT Folts Minimalist (Bowie) almost every day; great retention, FANTASTIC grip, useful blade design. Get one, or several!

anubis1335
10-09-2012, 08:31 AM
This one fits pretty well in front or back jeans pocket

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y11/anubae_obscura/GEAR/397-1.jpg

It's. a JK Knives KY Fieldmate w neck sheath. Have fire and a knife in the sheath. O1 steel and micarta. John makes a helluva knife

cockeyedhunter
10-09-2012, 09:48 AM
I always have this little JK PSK knife in my pocket.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g191/Cockeyedhunter/Bushcraft%20Basic%20Lessons/Bushcraft%20Intermediat%20Lessons/GEDC1926.jpg

I like the EESE Izula too. I carry it with a neck cord or in my pocket.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g191/Cockeyedhunter/GEDC1362.jpg

Scott Gossman and Iz Turley have some great small fixed blades too.

luke2236
10-09-2012, 10:21 AM
I don't know why I didn't think of the little kbar tdi I've got several laying around the house, even took a class with it end of last year.So that solves the problem for work,now after seeing all of these small fixed blades I wamt one of them for everyday lol.

pitdog
10-09-2012, 11:35 AM
My BHK Nessmuk necker -

http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/4274/p9050084h.jpg
By pitdog2010 (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/pitdog2010) at 2010-09-06

Swamprat Warden -

http://i910.photobucket.com/albums/ac306/Pitdog_2010/003-001-1.jpg

ML Survivalist -

http://i910.photobucket.com/albums/ac306/Pitdog_2010/019-4.jpg

NMTracker
10-09-2012, 12:14 PM
Blind Horse Small Tiger Knapp. I love this thing.
Length: 5
Edge: 2
O1 steel
Hollow grind

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-S-6sDhyzEro/T7Wd7nYBnlI/AAAAAAAAB9Q/bsy31mlz8fQ/s1600/DSC09417b.JPG

gobblegobble
10-09-2012, 12:28 PM
Boker Gnome might also be an interesting option; I don't own one (not yet anyway), but it looks solid...
See here: https://www.boker.de/us/fixed-blade-knife/boker-plus/outdoor-knife/02BO270.html

SlayerOfBunnies
10-09-2012, 04:29 PM
Wow I really like that set up any details on the sheath?

Thanks much - me too. :) That's a KSF Leather: City Sheath and I got mine as a gift from my daughter. I use it tons!


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Beckerhead #42

Adam
10-09-2012, 04:33 PM
My dad carried an ESEE Izula in a Knives Ship Free pocket sheath in his back pocket for several years. Found it much handier than a folder for many uses.

Prophet911
10-09-2012, 09:38 PM
The Bark River Bravo Necker gets my vote as well. I carry it almost every day. It's a good size for lite duty. Another good choice, as already mentioned in this thread is the ESEE line of smaller fixed blades. I own several of their knives and they are very well made for the price.

akbound
10-09-2012, 09:49 PM
I've heard good things about the Buck-Mayo Kaala. S30V steel at a reasonable price and seems to fit your stated criteria.

bharen
10-09-2012, 09:58 PM
Folks, I'm in need of some help here.It seems that the higher ups at work think that we souldn't have pocket knives anymore(although we carry pistols and rifles as part of our jobs).However the new proceedure clearly states that we are allowed to carry a fixed blade knife as long as the cutting edge is less than 3 inches and under 7 or 6(can't remember right now)inches in overall length.What I need from the fine folks here is, if anybody carries a small fixed blade for edc could you please post a pic or atleast tell me how you like it and how you carry it, (keep in mind I'm wearing a gunbelt already loaded down with stuff.)
Thanks for everyones help!!!


P.S. This ban also included multi-tools gotta love working for the feds.


Don't shield the agency. We need to hold bureaucrats accountable for their stupid rules. I've worked for years at the federal and local government levels and know the places are chock full of idiots who think their decisions are brilliant and infallible. They worked hard to earn our ridicule and disdain so I think it's important they get it!

delkancott
10-09-2012, 10:08 PM
ESEE Candiru (w/ scales) in a Godspeed Tactical Kydex sheath in the watch pocket. Great knife, great sheath, great carry. Will work on pics.

mongo
10-09-2012, 10:56 PM
My most every day EDC is a Bark River Mini-Canadian. It is the perfect EDC for me, sees so much varied use... from kitchen to outdoors. Does it all. Will see if I can post up a pic...

bigcknott88
10-09-2012, 11:49 PM
I hve. Small caping knife from s&w that I took the rubber handle off of. I carry it around my neck at work in a sheath I made out of an old belt and some paracord love it.

BradGad
10-10-2012, 12:25 AM
The response to this thread is kinda amazing... I was trying to read the posts, and get to the end, but pages kept being added as fast as I could read. But, I gotta wonder... are we helping?

The OP was:


Folks, I'm in need of some help here.It seems that the higher ups at work think that we souldn't have pocket knives anymore(although we carry pistols and rifles as part of our jobs).However the new proceedure clearly states that we are allowed to carry a fixed blade knife as long as the cutting edge is less than 3 inches and under 7 or 6(can't remember right now)inches in overall length.What I need from the fine folks here is, if anybody carries a small fixed blade for edc could you please post a pic or atleast tell me how you like it and how you carry it, (keep in mind I'm wearing a gunbelt already loaded down with stuff.)
Thanks for everyones help!!!


P.S. This ban also included multi-tools gotta love working for the feds.

Luke, what was the rationale for the injunction?

If you told us that, we could craft supporting statements that might help refute it.

Without that, I'm not sure what good umpteen replies with pics about "This is my EDC Izula" (and similiar posts) will do to help... (and, FWIW, when I first read the OP, I was ready to paste in my thoughts on why "This is my EDC Izula").

Why do the higher ups think you shouldn't carry pocket knives?

mikejd
10-10-2012, 07:17 AM
I carry a BRK pocket bravo. Has a nice small sheath. Not sure what they call it but it is smaller then the Sharp shooter. I also wear the folts minimalist around my neck. I would recomend both.

luke2236
10-10-2012, 08:13 AM
The response to this thread is kinda amazing... I was trying to read the posts, and get to the end, but pages kept being added as fast as I could read. But, I gotta wonder... are we helping?

The OP was:



Luke, what was the rationale for the injunction?

If you told us that, we could craft supporting statements that might help refute it.

Without that, I'm not sure what good umpteen replies with pics about "This is my EDC Izula" (and similiar posts) will do to help... (and, FWIW, when I first read the OP, I was ready to paste in my thoughts on why "This is my EDC Izula").

Why do the higher ups think you shouldn't carry pocket knives?

I thought I already stated the reson earlier in this thread, however if I didn't , someone cut his finger with a pocket knife(nicked not a serious cut at all).So the response from the higher-ups was just to ban all pocket knives. Normally I would just say O.K. and keep doing what I always have done but this time I think they're serious lol. This is a federal agencey and as much as I would love to call them out on their actions for the sake of staying gainfully employed I won't.(never know who might be reading post as a guest and I've logged on to here before from work) I have solved the problem of work with a k-bar tdi and have really enjoyed seeing everybodies edc fixed blades, so much so that now I can't make up my own mind on which one I want to use when I'm not at work lol. And no I don't work for the tsa I actually kinda like my job it dosen't have the smartest management but hopefully that will change with a new adminstration(sp) (you have no idea how politics affect what I do). Again thank you to everyone who have posted in this thread and please keep the pics coming I love seeing these type of cutting tools.

SlayerOfBunnies
10-10-2012, 05:12 PM
Don't shield the agency. We need to hold bureaucrats accountable for their stupid rules. I've worked for years at the federal and local government levels and know the places are chock full of idiots who think their decisions are brilliant and infallible. They worked hard to earn our ridicule and disdain so I think it's important they get it!

Dang - well said!


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Beckerhead #42