I posted a brief story about this under highlight of the day. Yesterday I was at a friends house for his son's birthday party, with about 15 kids from ages 2 to 10. They are all playing outside when my daughter runs up to me and says "We were chasing the cat and it's by a big snake". We all walk out of the kitchen and expect to see a garter snake or something, but no, we all hear lot's and lot's of rattling. We send the kids up to the house, and I tell my buddy I'm gonna shoot the snake. So I shoot it twice, once in the head, and again just in case. Nine Millimeter hollow points did a very nice job on this guy. I'll go with Timber rattler as the general consensus. I stand 5'8", and you can see it was nearly as long as me. It was about 5 inches in diameter. My buddy said there had been lot's of rabbits in the area, which explains it's size. Luckily all of the kids stayed far away from it and came to get an adult. I cut the head off and buried it, and opted not to keep the skin, because of the bullet holes.