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    Sorry to hijack your thread

    Here is a few used unimogs. $11k

    http://www.unimog.net/exchange/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blueraja View Post
    Umm...why is there a spare tire on the side??? Put that ugly thing under the bed like every other truck. It looks nice, except for the spare tire placement.
    That is where they used to be kept for trucks. I actually prefer that the spare is accessible and not under the bed.

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    Going with a jeep or a pickup I would go with a grand cherokee. You can get just about as good offroad performance as a wrangler and you can fold the seats down and get a lot of gear on the inside. Throw a basket on the roof and you get more storage. I own both a grand cherokee and a 00 tahoe and for the idea of having to do any mods for offroad I would go jeep everytime. To get even a mild lift on the newer trucks costs big money. Where with the jeep you spend about $800 and can go just about anywhere. It has the 4.0l motor so you can find parts just about anywhere as well. As for carrying fuel you can put it on the roof and not worry about fumes. But to me the ability to get parts just about anywhere is a huge factor.

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    In almost 40 years of owning almost every conceivable type of 4wd vehicle, from the old Isuzu Amigo to a full size crew cab Silverado with an 8' bed (read: damn near tractor trailer sized), I think I have finally settled on the perfect (for me) vehicle. Without going into brand names, the best all around vehicle seems to be the crewcab, regular bed, 4wd pickup. As said by others, carrying capacity, comfort, and versatility are pretty much unmatched in a newer version of these. I don't plan on ever buying anything different. Ultimately though, you will need to evaluate your specific needs. Good luck in your search brother!

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    To answer the OP, I'd go with a Jeep, but with a caveat: get the Unlimited (4-door).

    Since this is a "prepper" topic, I am seeing the use for this being in situations that people don't like talking about here, so I won't go further. But suffice it to say, the ability of Jeeps (including the Unlimited) to get in places a full sized pickup can't can be a major advantage. The smaller trucks like a Tacoma can squeeze into the same places an Unlimited can.

    Advantages of the Unlimited: nearly twice the owing capacity of a standard Wrangler.
    Longer wheelbase makes it far more stable on the road and offroad.
    Can carry 4 people and as much cargo as a standard Wrangler with its rear seats out (how much? You can get at least 8 GI-sized duffle bags in the back if you don't mind stacking them). Or, you can carry two and fold down the rear seats for more carriage capacity.

    Want to carry more equipment or lots of fuel cans? There are some very nice safari-type cargo racks that can go over the top. The best are the ones that attach to aftemarket steel bumpers. Best part about using these, is you can, with proper loading, keep the center of gravity of the vehicle right in the sweet spot, instead of making it ass-heavy.

    When I need lumber or something, I just attach my little trailer (like the ones you see lawn service guys using), and unlike a pickupo, I'm not carryin my "trailer" with me everywhere.

    I'd been a long-time pickup guy, but I went all-in with the Jeeps after owning one. In stock form my Jeep can go the same places with just as much ease as my massively upgraded 4x4 trucks could, and I don't have a Rubi.

    In my last truck, I was smiling when I could squeeze 17MPG out of it. I average 22MPG with the Jeep, and even when I have to do a lot of city driving I haven't dropped below 20. Now, you have to let the Jeep teach you to drive it. Smooth take-offs, few stops (when I see a red light waaay ahead I just take my foot off the gas and coast. Usually I can get away without having to stop, which saves gas and my brakes), and driving so slow the blue-haired old ladies give me the finger as they pass all help (in reality 55 is your friend, and I don't go more than 65 even on the interstate -- that's why you see a lot of Jeeps just get in the slow lane and stay there).

    The question to Rubi or not comes down to your long range plans. The Rubicon come with the most common upgrades that Jeepers usually do already installed. If you plan any major drivetrain changes (like going to Dana 60 axles,Atlas transfer cases, etc -- desirable if you do a major power upgrade to a diesel or v-8 engine -- you will be replacing most of the Rubicon's upgrades and pissing away money for a sticker). In all honesty, most people will never do anything that the Rubicon can't handle. Really most won't do anything a Sport won't handle.

    The big con of a Jeep is that once you buy one, it's like you fall into an endless sea of aftermarket upgrades. Hence one of the acronyms of JEEP is Just Empty Every Pocket. They also area bit like dogs and are happiest getting covered in dirt and mud. You'll find yourself aiming for big mud puddles, climbing every little dirt pile and hill you can find, look for as many dirt roads as you can find on the way home, climbing the pile dup snow in the mall parking lot, etc. I often get asked how I got dirt on TOP of my Jeep, LOL.

    So that's my argument for the Jeep. There's any number of guys that could make just as good an argument for a pickup or an SUV. What you really want is a Unimog. What you have to do is look at the choices you can actually afford, and pick what suits what you want to do, and the way you want to do it best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wildcat View Post
    Sorry to hijack your thread

    Here is a few used unimogs. $11k

    http://www.unimog.net/exchange/
    Son of a b------!

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    Thanks a lot.

    Now I have to figure out how to not spend $11k+ in the next few months. GAH!


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    Thanks for all the responses. Let me put my original question into more specific context. I already own a 2004 2 door Jeep Wrangler and a 2011 GMC Crew Cab (V8 gas engine). I love the Jeep, but its tiny inside. My pickup is roomy and powerful and will haul a lot more. But its not really a bushwacker vehicle (and actually tough to use for daily driving, because its HUGE). So, I am trying to decide if keeping the truck with its hauling capacity and ready made shelter (with its topper) is better, or if a Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon would be a better choice, since it would provide a lot more cargo space than my 04TJ, but still have the offroad versatility that my truck is less than ideal at.

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    Not that this is an answer to your question... you're not looking at something like this.

    I think something like a Subaru Outback makes the most sense. Good-enough scrambling, stretches that last tank of gas much further, and it would be pretty comfortable to sleep in.

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    Its a tough question to really answer. With front and rear lockers stock, the rubicon will go places most trucks could only dream of. Unless you buy a Raptor.

    What kind of activities will you be doing until TSHTF? When TSHTF, are you gonna take the path that leads through the rock quarry? Or do you want a truck with a cattle scoop on the front to push the road obstacles off the road?

    My preference would be the rubicon. I have access to a trailer that i use to haul lumber or other dirty stuff that wont fit in cargo space. When hauling smaller stuff i can lock it in the back. Thats my .2 cents

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    You really should take a look at a 4-door Wrangler Unlimited. They have a fair amount of space inside, as much as most other SUV's. I just sold a Chevy Trailblazer than I owned for 8 years and the Jeep has almost the same amount of rear storage as the Trailblazer. The back seat has more space than the Trailblazer. The rear sear folds flat, or nearly flat and provides a way to carry larger items. I can sleep in the back, if needed.

    I have some experience with older, 2-door Wranglers and CJ-7's, there is a lot of difference in the 4-door Unlimited, the ride is much better, not nearly as rough and the space inside is not even the same, much more storage for trips and gear.

    The idea of a surplus military jeep trailer, is an excellent one. It does not take away much off-road capability and you can still haul as much as a pickup. The trailer can also be packed and parked in your garage or a storage locker and when you want to take off, just hitch it up.

    On the mileage subject, the 2012/13 Wranglers get a lot better mileage and have 80 more horsepower than the 07-11 Unlimiteds. The engine is newer and different. It is also very complex, internally, which can add power and efficiency but also be way more difficult to fix if broken. I am not looking forward to running out of warranty. I will probably have to buy another new one when the warranty expires. Something to consider is ease of repair and costs

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