1950 Grumman canoe - Did I get a good deal?

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  1. murphy

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    My impulse buy of the day. This is a 1950 17ft Grumman with a square transom. All of the rivets and seams are very sound so if there are any leaks they will be minimal. There is a dent on one side up near the gunwale. I think it is missing a seat. The seller was asking $150 and I talked him down to $100. When I picked it up he handed me the title. I wasn't expecting that.

    What do you think? Did I get robbed?

    Also, there are parts riveted and bolted to the sides. I think you will be able to see them in the pics. There is canvas material bolted down that had some use at one time but has been torn. Any ideas what this might have been?

    Murph

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    I am green with envy! Sweet!
     
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    Man, I so can't wait to get back State-side...I'm feeling that a good canoe will be one of my first rewards.

    Congrats on a nice score!!
     
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    That is a square stern canoe, very nice most of the one's we find around here are plastic Coleman but I like that so much better.
     
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    $100 for a Grumman in good condition is a good price. My guess at the webbing riveted to the inner sides is that they were ties for a spare paddle. The ones on the outside, combined with the black marks, look like sponsons were installed at one time.
     
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    I've got a little 2 horse Johnson that would love that canoe!
     
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    Very nice!
     
  8. hunter63

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    You done well.....
    I'm thinking that those brackets had styrofoam "bumpers" or floatition at some point, used to see that alot.
     
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    well I say YES! great deal!

    heck, the square stern alone makes it a screaming deal to me! congrats!
     
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    i would say 100.00 for a vintage gruman is a good deal. last year i gave 100.00 for a 1972 17' aluminum lowe. i know i was looking up prices ( after i bought mine ) for mine and found many of them going for upwards of 250.00 to 450.00

    mine has no major dents, but plenty of dings/scratches. the front seat is bent down some what, but it doesnt effect anything at all.

    it looks like you got yourself a very serviceable canoe IMO. i would feel good about the purchase if i was you. congrats!
     
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    How much do you want for the motor?
     
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    I've been a Grumman lover and user for years. They are bomb proof. You got a great deal. I bought a late 40's early 50's two years ago for $200 and wouldn't sell it for any amount of money. It's a 15 footer. I load the heck out of it when I canoe camp. I had an 18' I sold, too heavy, bad back. I also agree it had sponsons attached at one time.
     
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    I'm green with envy. I've been looking for a used SS Grumman for the last year, and haven't seen one yet for less than $800 so if your's is tight and dry, I think you got a smokin' deal. New one's are currently retailing well over $1000.
     
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    For $100 and it floats you can't go wrong. Nice find. Any plans for it?
     
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    Not for sale.
     
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    Thanks everyone. I feel a lot better about the purchase now.

    I think it would be a great boat as is, but I can never leave anything alone. I'll pull off the sponson gear and probably pull out the seat and build two matching wooden seats. I think I can knock out that dent pretty well. I have a buddy that has restored a couple of airstream trailers, so he has knowledge of polishing old aluminum. It would be nice to shine it up a bit. I've got an electric trolling motor. That will do until I find a small gas engine. I'm open to any other ideas, and I know you guys out there have em!

    Murph
     
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    Wow, your good on cool factor alone with that deal
     
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    Very nice bit of boat. The square-stern makes paddling rough, but motoring easy. I don't know that I'd put a gas motor on it, though, considering the quality and power in todays electric trolling motors. Would you really get that much more speed/power out of a gas engine? Enough difference to offset the lugging of gas cans around?

    No matter what, you got a steal of a deal on that baby. Fix her up, seal the holes from the sponson fasteners, and get some fishing in!
     
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    I learned to canoe in one of those. You did good
     
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    Murph - even in places where they are common, old used Grumman canoes rarely go for less than $200. You don't have to worry about whether it sat out in the weather or on the ground all it's life - that doesn't hurt 'em a bit. If it doesn't leak much (and it probably won't), I say you got a heck of a deal. The bends in the gunwales don't look like they'll be too difficult to straighten out. I bet you'll be surprised how well it goes with an electric trolling motor.
     
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    I'd say you got a good deal, but one question - was the thing left behind when the glaciers retreated? It looks pretty high and dry there.
     
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    At that price I think you stole it. It wouldn't go that cheap here in MN.
     
  23. murphy

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    Ha! I didn't ask where it came from originally. I love to fish and duck hunt more than anything, so I moved to the mountains and high desert.

    Actually there are a few lakes and rivers around here fairly close. I've learned where the ducks fly and the channel cats swim, and hopefully this contraption will get me a bit closer to them.

    Murph
     
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    I have 3 Grumman canoes and love them all. Unfortunately I think you got ripped off.(just kidding) I have 0.00 dollars into all 3. No really for 100.00 I would have bought it and I obviously do not need another. Great canoes and almost indestructible. My wife and friends put one on the rocks last summer and by the time I arrived it was full of water and stuck sideways in the rapids. I hooked a come-a-long to it and about ripped it in half to get it out. Cost 150.00 to weld and it is as good as new.
     
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    Oh yes! You got a great deal! +C+
     
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    sure did
     
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    You did good. I have a 19 ft square back and i love it. I use a 5hp motor on it or slip on a trolling motor. Works great.
     
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    did you get robbed?...lol me thinks its the other way around
    any relation to "murph the surf"?lol...woods
     
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  30. murphy

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    Woods, the guy I bought it from was an older man. Now I sorta feel bad. Next step is knocking down old ladies at the grocery store and stealing their purses. When will it end?!?

    Murph (not the Surf)
     
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    I have never seen one for sale for less than $500 and more often closer to $1000. You made out like a bandit my friend.
     
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