Canadian Jam Knot

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  1. IA Woodsman

    IA Woodsman Overwatch Moderator Staff Member Super Moderator Vendor Bushclass Instructor

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    Here is a handy knot that I use all of he time for lots of different apps.

    [video=youtube;qC-GHDkBnXU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qC-GHDkBnXU[/video]



    [video=youtube;czU7RcBbEkc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czU7RcBbEkc[/video]
     
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    Good video- nice knot tutorial! Thanks.
     
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    Cody Lundin taught me that knot years ago, he said Mors Kochanski taught him. The only place I have ever seen it explained previously is in one of Mors' old booklets on knots. That's a great video, thanks for sharing, I plan to pass that along.

    If you ever are putting things together permanently, there is a variation. Do the overhand knot at the end of the rope and then tie another overhand back over the rope and pull. Basically, you don't have the "tail." I believe that is the knot they use for putting the webbing together on snowshoes as an example.

    I love this forum! :)
     
  4. IA Woodsman

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    Abo, I learned it when I taught in the AF I did not know it was in one of Mors's books. That is great info, thanks for sharing.
     
  5. Trekon86

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    Wow IA that's a great video, I don't believe I've ever come across this knot.
    Will have to try it!:)
    Looks great for shelter building esp. to conserve cord or to "knot" have to use so much of it haha!
    PMZ
     
  6. Iz

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    Awesome! I love easy knots. I'm terrible with knots. I passed the knot course in ait but just barely.:eek:
    Thanks, IA.
    Later,
    Iz
     
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    great video, yup Mors showed me this knot several years ago at rabbit stick rendezvous in Idaho.

    tomahawk
     
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    Great knot! Simple, really works. Elegant simplicity.
    Thanks.
     
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    That kicks BUTT!!!! Thanks for the video!
     
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    Great tutorial. Thanks Iowa!
     
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    I know quite a few knots, but that's the most useful and simple knot (for my uses) that I have ever seen. Great tutorial, too. Thanks so much for sharing it!
     
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    Thanks! that will simplify lashings for sure.
     
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    Thanks for showing.
     
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    Thats two for two. First the daisy chain and now the C-knot. I've read about this one in Mors little book on knots, but seeing it, like most peeps, makes all the difference.

    I imagine that would work fantastic as turnakit...not recommending you get yourself in a situation that requires one, let alone use it, but I think it would work good.

    Nice Vids.
     
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    Hey IA, I think we call it a "Hitch" when I was up there. Don't know why because it is a knot. Couldn't hear what you said on you tube (no speakers) but I use it alot for deer snares too. I also read somewhere it is called a Arbor Knot, used in fishing.
    Go SERE
     
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    I've been using the heck out of this knot since I first saw it on here. Thanks

    Jesster
     
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    Agreed. Man I love it...
     
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    great lesson learned!
     
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    thanks for the post
     
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    why not use a figure 8 knot as your first knot? easier to untie. playing around with this now at the house. maybe make both knots fig 8's thanks for sharing this
     
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    I think this needs a bump for those that have never seen it.

    Great video IA.

    Had never used it until I saw your videos. don't know how I got along without it.
     
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    Variation?
    Hay Chris, You or someone, is going to have to show this one. Can't get it. Thanks
    O.F.
     
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    Excellent tutorial. I will definately be adding the canadian jam knot to my list.
     
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    Thanks for this post will be using it very soon.
     
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    That's an Arbor knot, there are a few variations of it generally used in small diameter fishing lines and still mono lines. I use an alpine butterfly or lineman's loop instead of the arbor knot for larger lines then the mono fishing line. A Buntline hitch will do the same thing as well.
     
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    When I saw that you had posted on this thread, I knew, before I ever looked at it, that yours would be a contradictory post. Sometimes I really dislike being right.

    Is it possible that this is just a knot that has more names than you are aware of?
     
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    Wow sorry , I didn't even see it as that, apparently it dose have more names then just one though this is the first time I saw it called a Canadian jam knot. Im not trying to be contradictory...my bad... I think?
     
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    In my research of the Canadian Jam, I also found that it was called arbor knot. The only reference to as the Canadian Jam, other then IA Woodsmans, that I could find was
    written about by Mors Kochanski in one of his booklets, “Top Seven Bush Knots and the Use of the Windlass.” Also he discussed it at length in his video “Bush Knots”.

    There are many other knots and hitches that can be used for the same thing, but for ease of tying and remembering the Canadian Jam is super easy and very versitile as IA Woodsman shows in his videos.
     
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    Im sorry I wasn't trying to say that all the uses he had for it were of no value , its a great knot and he showed allot of excellent uses. I was just trying to say that there is another common name and a few others that work the same way. Maybe I need to work on presentation a bit more....sorry folks.
     
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    Hang in there SOL, conveying thoughts and emotions online can be tough. There are many forums I visit but rarely post on. This is the first place I've come across where I feel comfortable enough to post. Having gone back and reread some of my posts here make me wince, wishing I would have said things different to get my point/intentions across.
     
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    Great Vid!
    Now part of my Knot repertoire ;)
     
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    IA Great Video Like the uses for this Knot Thanks Brother!
     
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    Neat knot, certainly meets the test of a useful knot: easy to tie, does it's job, and easy to untie.
     
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    Anyone else catch on the newest Man Vs Wild, in the Arizona Desert that Bear uses the Canadian Jam knot to make his willow bow??

    Bear must be an Ia Woodsman fanboy!
     
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    About time he got with the program
     
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    I saw that too! I have a feeling some of those guys, frequently lurk here to learn some skills...wouldn't surprise me, and I wouldn't blame them.
     
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    Why wouldn't they lurk here, there is no where else like it to lurk!
     
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    Lucas Wagner taught me that knot a couple years back when he was showing me how to set up a super shelter. Mors taught it to him, and we now show it a lot to our students. We use em all the time when setting up wicker snowshoes, or lashing pole ladders together at the camp.

    Iowa, brother you have some amazing knowledge on hand.
     
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    Has anybody used this knot "wet" or with lots of errr... blood?

    This knot has "T-O-U-R-N-I-Q-U-E-T" written all over it... :57:

    I guess you could also call it the "Canadian Fastex Buckle Knot" - HEH-HEH.
     
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    Unless something has changed since I took my military courses, you need to relieve the pressure every so often and that may not be conducive to this knot in general. Interesting question though and I look forward to the answer.
     
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    Well, that's why this knot looks so great for use as a tourniquet.

    You can easily undo it to relieve pressure with mninimal fuss - with even LESS effort than my favorite TK-4, it seems, because it is essentially one motion to tighten and another to loosen.
    [​IMG]
     
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    This is such and awesomely useful knot. Thanks so much for this! Im gonna use it for my spring break packing :D
     
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    Thanks for sharing this, I will be using this soon.
     
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    I think this is one of Mor's favorite knots
     
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    Jam Knot

    This knot is also known as an "Arbor Knot", to tie fishing line initially to the arbor of a reel, either spinning reel or fly reel. GREAT knot! Nice videos! Thanks!
     
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    That's a slick knot! Thanks!
     
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    What Iz said.... I like my knots like I like my women, simple, easy and trustworthy.
     
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    Me to. Twisted and tight.
     
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    Right on! another knot to add to the arsenal!! And really easy to remember Thanks IA !!
     
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    Easy to remember and use ,thanks
     

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