Configurations with Tentsmiths oilskin trail tarp

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  1. Wood PF

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    After seeing a review of a open front watch coat from Tentsmiths on youtube, I checked out their website and found an 8X8 oilskin trail tarp. I brought it and a closed front watch coat out to run some test on expedient shelter setup as I plan to use these two items on 2 to 3 expeditions in southern Indiana and Ohio this year.
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    The tarp and watchcoat fold up considerably small for what they are, fit well in the Duluth Scout pack leaving room to spare with the rest of my kit, and are pretty darn light for traditional gear.
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    Size reference with the pack. I only used these "scrap" pieces of cordage that are in various spots in the scout kit.
     
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    The tie outs are reinforced in diamonds of oilskin quite impressively. This piece of gear combines attributes I have been looking for quite some time being rugged and traditional and still relatively light. Tentsmiths nailed it on this one. There was a steady light rain while I did this excercise so it worked out real good for me.
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    Here is the tarp setup in typical lean fashion with the watchcoat laid down for a piece of ground cover. Which is my plan for it as well as being used as a poncho.
     

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    This tarp has tie outs sewn in every 2 feet down the center seam lending itself to even more versatility. Here I basically staked out the corners and strung up the center and front facing the fire pit creating a pup tent type situation. I waited out the drizzle and smoked some pipe tobacco in this one for twenty minutes.
     
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    Basic diamond configuration capitalizing on one of the center seam tie outs to maximize space. This setup goes up very quickly and easily.
     
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    For me its important that a tarp which will be used on planned overnighters and expeditions has the ability to provide overhead cover and ground cover in and of itself in one shot. I was on a 4 day advanced survival course last year with my cover element being a reusable emergency space blanket and a German military wool blanket, I survived but was definitely not loving it. Therefore this is key for me and for todays test run it performed well.
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    With the ground cover taken care of the watch coat can be used to close up an additional side of the shelter. For a test of expedient setup and packability this tarp and watchcoat has exceeded my expectations and graduates to being a permanent part of my travel kit. The true tests will come in the upcoming trips.
     
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    thanks for the photos ...
     
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    Awesome man, an oilskin tarp is close to number one on my want list
     
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    This equipment is not cheap by any means but I gotta say it meets the specs I was trying to get in a traditional tarp to a tee.
     
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    Not a problem my man. I enjoy sharing here with you guys.
     
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    Great stuff by very nice folks.... Just take care with fire as that oiled cotton will burn right up. They make a open front trade shirt, and i burned mine reaching over a fire. The missing corner is not a problem and it is a good reminder to not be reaching over a fire too.

    In cold if you wear that coat over say 2 wool trade shirts you will stay warm but will need to wear it inside out and back as normal every so often. Sweating in it will make you wet. So placing the wet side out a while will dry that and you may stay dry too ..
     
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    Right on man! Thanks for the advice. My plan is to wear it as needed over a wool blanket shirt next winter. For the rest of this year probably will be it and a t-shirt in rainy weather. The open front watch coat would work even better in assisting in a shelter as I demonstrated in the thread.
     
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    I liked your pictures but prefer the diamond set to all others. I do that a few different ways. Sometimes I cross sticks at the open end, other times I run a line inside and drape the cover over that, still in a diamond, and another way if it is already raining i set a stick i pad with a hat (tuke / liberty /stocking cap with a flap) 1/3rd back as the peak .

    My tentsmith tarps are canvass and not oiled and so they won't pack as small by any means but you can be closer to a fire.

    The cold i am talking about it ice in the bucket weather, like in October on Lake George NY.

    With a diamond set low end to the wind you can keep the watch coat to wear.

    Oh I meant to mention with that oiled cotton you can rub it out with a round and river smooth rock if it gets sticky from too much sun.

    Is 'IN' the state where you are or something else?
     
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    Yes I'm from Indiana bro. I also use the diamond allot mainly because it sets up so quickly and easily. The lean and pup tent provide good cover and comfort for me depending on weather. I wanted to set up several different configurations today so when I'm hoofing it into the backcountry its not a first for me with that piece of equipment. The configuration that I use is ALWAYS dependent on the weather conditions.
     
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    In Spring 2006 I attended the South Eastern Primitive Ron dee Voo in Bledso State Park Tn.

    The longer story is my wife and i crossed the USA on a motorcycle from NH to Cal, Cal to Fla, made a wrong turn out of Fla and ended up in Ok, hit winter and bought a van (rolling bed room) and a big trailer for the bike, and it's little trailer.

    Ended up in the right place at the right time for Voo...... Except a tornado took that place apart stick for stick and canvass for canvass, and in the end there were 2 tipis standing and one diamond tarp. I suspect that tarp was a tentsmith's, but don't know that as fact.

    I was in the tin tipi at the time... Which set makes all the difference. Even then because the guy 'RAM' set his diamond low made it so he could take that hit and wasn't even damp to speak of.

    he was right up and out after it was safe to help other people gather up their things and do as they wished.... I'ld like to say pleased but no one was very pleased.

    A lot of lodges were wrecked.....

    In the crossing of the USA I hit up on the Hopewell Mounds area, and for my troubles i got into the chiggars for the first and i hope last time in my life.

    Do take care :17:

    Oh! take note on how bugs react to the oiled cotton....... I don't know how that will work out in this case.

    Once I made a Mark Baker recipe oil skin of a painters drop cloth with BLO baking soda to reduce acid in the BLO and iron oxide in a burnt sepia tone.

    Then after it was dry to the touch and had been used in a few camps I ended up in the Umbagog

    Umbagog Lake NH/Me border lake in heavy black fly season with my modern brother and his friend.

    The bugs ate them alive, bending the bars of the screen of that tent, and left me in peace.

    I still don't understand it. I had a fire at a safer distance from the oil cloth, and was wearing deer leggings and a split elk shirt, some rag in my hair and mocs on my feet.

    I had been there before in the heart of bug season, and that time was forced to run an air cooled outboard on a tree limb up wind of my modern tent all night.
     
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    I hear ya Flinter. The setups I demonstrated were all waist level or lower and that's for the most part how I use tarp shelter. The pup tent style was very low and I am becoming partial to that setup for ground sleeping.
     
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    Will you also post pics of other sets? I like seeing what younger guys come up with, and gauge it to what old gray beards know.

    Sometimes you younger guys surprise me. The older you get, the heavier everything is.... :50:
     
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    Olds

    This was a precursor to future use as I mentioned in the OP it will be going on some treks with me which I will be taking photos of for this forum as well as some other reviewing. Hope you enjoy it there old guy.
     
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    I wish somebody at Tentsmiths would answer the phone so I could get an order in.
     
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    I want one so bad !
     
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    If you like send me a pm with contact info and I will take it to them by hand. Be a good excuse for me to drop in to just say hi.

    Up to you. I live about 14 miles from their shop.
     
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    Thanks for sharing your oilcloth photos. I have Tentsmith's 10'x10' version and have spent many nights under it while re-enacting; in fact, just spent another couple of nights under it on the coast of Maine at an event. Pitching it low with the back towards the wind has allowed me to be protected through some really nasty storms. The tarp is very strong and allows for endless ways of pitching it so it can be open, closed or in between; whatever you need or want based on the weather. I've got the larger size for when there's a few of us who need to be under cover but I'm thinking of getting the smaller version for when I want to go solo. As has been mentioned, they're not inexpensive but they are definitely worth it.

    As for not hearing back from Tentsmiths when you call them on the phone, be patient as they are a small family business. Believe me, they will get back to you and you'll be happy when they do. They're a pleasure to talk with and they'll do whatever they can to help you out. Good people!

    That's all for now. Take care and until next time...Be well.

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    Thank you very much for the review and pictures because tent smiths website lacks them.
     
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    I've had a 9' x 9' oilskin tarp from Panther Primitives for probably 15 years (maybe more) and it is one of my favorite pieces of gear. I've set it up about every way you could think of and I think the low diamond is the best, especially if bad weather is expected. I've had one of Tentsmith's oilskin shirts for several years and like it, but I think I would prefer an open front so that sweating is not so much of an issue. I would slit the front, but then there wouldn't be enough material to cover. I may end up making an open front one of these days.

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    Are you aware Tentsmith's makes a open front frock coat of oil cloth as well as the pull over? I have 1 of each.
     
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    Thanks Flinter, may take you up on the offer.
     
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    Thanks for posting...I have a tentsmiths Smowwalker tent...have had it over 15 years, on close to a hundred nights out in winter, and love it!
     
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    I received my 8×8 tent smith tarp a couple weeks ago. I have to say it's my go to tarp now.
     
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    My 8x8 should be on its way from Tentsmiths soon. I will be sure to get some pictures up when it arrives.
     
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    Great set-up.

    Can't wait to have one of these (hopefully sooner than later):dblthumb:

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    Tentsmiths makes a great tarp. It's a little heavier than a nylon tarp but, if u take care of it the Tentsmiths tarp Will Last Most Of Ur life.
     
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    As soon as I'm able ($$$)..I WILL be going with a 9x9

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    Oil cloth vs pathfinder on ho tarphow would you compare them they're almost the same

    So I'm really torn between the Pathfinder poncho tarp 7 x 7 and the oil cloth tent smith tarp can you give me any insight into this. they're almost the same price I think the poncho tarp is lighter but I wonder if it's his fire resistant can you help?
     
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    Compare Pathfinder poncho tire please

    Hey I'm torn between the 7 x 7 Pathfinder poncho tarp and the 7 x 7 oil Cloth by tentSmith
    Similar price and size can you help me please I think the poncho might be lighter but the tarp more fire resistant any insight?
     
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    I'm really loving this thread. That tarp is going to be my next purchase! I love open fire camping but keep putting holes in my regular tarp, plus it's super noisy with even the smallest wind.
     
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    Oilskin Tarp

    I have the Panther Primitives version, it's the cat's meow. Wes
     
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    I do as well, been using it a number of years, but Im switching to a handsewn tarp of my own manufacture.

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    This was it set up this weekend at the 42d Annual Thunder Creek Rendevous in Brown County Indiana.

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    I actually wish I would have gotten the Tentsmiths version. I like the idea of loops that I can add a tie if needed vice the cotton ties hanging down.....
     
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