fairweather's speedy tarp setup - I copied it :D (pic heavy)

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  1. strongblackcoffee

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    Hi,

    I really liked fairweather's awesome idea (http://bushcraftusa.com/forum/showthread.php?t=64507).

    So today, I had a day off, and decided to try these mods myself.

    I also added some bungees and Klemmheists knots (got these tips on another forum)

    I also made some other bushcrafty stuff...

    I set the tarp up as picnic shelter for me and two of my boys. It was a fun afternoon out!

    First, I made some pretty tarp pegs
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    This is the modified tarp. You can see the first mod already...
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    I tied off the back end (the one with the ridge line coming out through the grommet)
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    Then I tied off the other side and let the tarp come out
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    I used quick release knots on both sides
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    No more loosing the stuff sac!
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    The ends of the tarp are now attached with Klemmheists
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    I attached the guy lines to the pegs with tautline hitches
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    The guy lines I always store neatly away with quick release knots
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    Between the tarp and the guy lines I installed bungee loops. These are affixed to the guy lines via a Yosemite bowline.
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    The bungee loops itself I tied with double fishermens with a extra overhand at the ends (it's bungee after all..)
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    Finished!
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    Before the picnic could start I had to dig out a tree root. I used my KA-BAR USMC for it. YEE HAA
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    Picnic time!
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    The tarp feels 'bombproof' and does not sag anywhere thanks to the bungees and the Klemmheists.


    Now it was time for some other bushcraft:

    I recently got this M40 gasmask bag for a fiver. I added a loop and D ring with reinforcement on the inside
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    I found a REALLY nice piece of fat wood. Took the time to prepare some maya sticks. My office reaks of terpentine now :D
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    Again, thanks fairweather for sharing your awesome idea!

    Thanks for looking!

    Mike
     
  2. Hubb

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    Beautiful outing.
     
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    Looks like an excellent time. Thanks.
     
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    What's the purpose of the bunge loops on the guy lines? Why not just attach the guy lines directly to the grommets? (is this a neat trick I need to do too?)
     
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    Nice outing. I like the setup. Looks like the kids had a good time too.
     
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    Nice work. I'm unfamiliar with a couple of those knots you used. What's the Klemheist and Yosemite Bowline used for? Obviously the second is a bowline variant, but there must be some advantage. Sure looks cool!
     
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    Nice job!
     
  8. strongblackcoffee

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    Thanks for your replies :)


    I use 550 paracord for the ridgeline and guy lines. I find that inherently, there is a little bit of stretch in it - just enough to let the tarp sag a bit after a night or when it is windy and the wind works on the tarp/ guylines. The bungees counter that and keep the tarp taut. In my experience The tautline hitches are only needed to first set up the tarp. Hope this helps!

    Klemheist: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klemheist_knot
    Yosemite bowline: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yosemite_bowline

    I use the klemheist to keep the tarp in place. Both ends are attached with these knots. I can slide the tarp along the ridgeline (e.g. when the ridgeline is not set up horizontally for any reason) and it stays in place! The knot provides friction so the wind cannot work the tarp loose from the ridge line. I find I just need to make sure the ridgeline is taut when I set it up. Hope this explains it.

    The yosemite bowline is a knot I am very fond of since my climbing days. I used it as a tie in knot (climbing rope into my harness).

    For this particular tarp setup, I think you can use any knot you like and that holds the bungee loop and the guy line (e.g. fig 8, overhand, or even a quick release knot). I just use the yosemite because I am a bit of a knot nut and love this particular knot so much. :D

    The advantage of this knot for me is that I can tie it very quickly and without thinking about it. It is strong, does not come undone and is easily untied, even after load.
     
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    Looks like a great time out with the chillen. One suggestion I'd have would be to take a little extra time to square off the tops off your pegs and then bevel around the edges. That way they wont tend to bust all apart if you have to drive them in and can be reused multiple times. Just a suggestion. The rest of the set up looks great. Thanks for sharing. Memories the kids will have forever.
     
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    Thanks for the suggestion! I'll try that next time.
     
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    Nylon, cord or fabric, has a certain elasticity but the use of bungee loops allows the tarp to give with the wind and instantly return so it keeps the tarp from flapping. Flapping is noisy and annoying but will also tear a tarp apart if the wind is strong and gusty. I make bungee loops by sewing with a small sail needle and then seizing the ends where they overlap. Seizing is like lashing, with wraps and fraps. When using bungee draw the line tight enough to get a "bite" of the elastic, if you draw it to the full extent there is no reserve elasticity.

    There are some commercially available loops with a hook connecting the ends.
    http://www.campmor.com/outdoor/gear/Product___23003
     
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    Cool, thank you for the bungee explanations!
     
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