Log Tipi Build-Along...

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  1. Trekon86

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    Hi all,

    I am posting this as an effort to ensure that I don't just start this project and then blow it off to do something else:D


    Here's the deal. For awhile now I've wanted to build a shelter in the woods on family land. I had a couple when I was younger but they've since either gotten knocked down, burned down, blown down, or rotted.

    I found the ideal location for my tipi. This clearing is smooth, dry, and slightly sheltered from the wind and not entirely visible from the road due to a screen of hawthorn, witch-hazel, tulip poplar and greenbriar near the edge of the trees. It is close enough to a water source to save time and energy, but not so close as to be soggy or clammy. It is close enough to home that we can all walk there and carry gear in on foot or ATV, but far enough that it is unlikely that it will be defaced by drunken hooligans (not knocking drinking, just the type of people who destroy carefully made shelters) . You can see the slight windbreak of poplar trees where my coat is lying:

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    IMG_20130108_163049.jpg by Stagdag1, on Flickr


    The clearing where I am siting my tipi is created by this enormous pine tree. Another, larger one recently fell in a windstorm nearby, providing me with plenty of boughs for thatching my shelter. I could, of course, build a lean - to using the fallen tree, but it was awfully close to the property line and I wanted a shelter that can be heated with a stove or small fire...big enough for four people, and simple enough for me to construct on my own in a few days' time. The tipi - shaped debris shelter shines in that regard. Other similar shelters include the wikiup (wigwam) and the simple leaf cave. However...the lean - to has a poor thermal retention, unless you build (and feed) a longfire throughout the night, the wikiup is really a better group project, and the leaf cave debris shelter is not only impractical at this time of year (no dry leaves), but would also be too cramped for my purposes:

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    IMG_20130108_163033.jpg by Stagdag1, on Flickr

    Tipi debris shelter: Day One:

    I have one longer central forked pole and two shorter "fill" poles cut so far. On Saturday I will continue cutting poles and erecting the frame. On Sunday I will thatch and insulate it:






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    IMG_20130108_163011.jpg by Stagdag1, on Flickr


    Keep me accountable, peeps!
    PMZ
     
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    Way to go Trek. Keep at it and post pics of progress.
     
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    It will have an 8' inside diameter floorplan with a central rock ring and raised beds inside, if all goes well.

    I plan on making it a little bit inside the semicircle of poplars so that I can utilize them as a cooking or utility area and still take advantage of them as a windbreak.


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    Very cool, nice spot! Can't wait to see how it turns out!
     
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    ...And the doorflaps will face east, since most winds blow from the west.

    PMZ
     
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    The day you feel you have to defend using the term "drunken hooligans" is the day you need to reconsider if you give a damn about who you upset.

    That being said Good on you for getting started. I'll look forward to seeing how it turns out. I'll make a note of this thread and be sure to publically harass you if we don't see updates :D
     
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    Awesome project man. Semi permanent shelters are always fun projects. I look forward to seeing your progress on the build. :57:
     
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    OK we're all watching . No backing out now . So what are you going to do today ?:21:
     
  9. Trekon86

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    Today I was at work:D

    Tomorrow (Saturday) I will work on the shelter, rain or shine:)
    PMZ
     
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    As someone who has done this in their youth, I see one of 2 paths for you. Path A I see blisters from swinging the axe to chop the trees, but filled with determination you do not give up. Path B I hear a Husquavarna running for about 20 minutes and the crack of an aluminum can quenching the thirst of a hard working bushcrafter who will be done with his project by noon and be sleeping off the rewards next to a nice warm fire later that night.

    Yeah Yeah I know there are other paths but those are the 2 I remember, Ahhh great times!!!:35:


    Oops it apears I have enjoyed one too many of those liquid rewards and kind of just skimmed along I though you said TIPI man those are a @#%$! Now the Debri shelter what can I say "Got Leaves!" Never mind the drunken fool in the corner. Looks like a good spot look forward to following your progress!
     
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    I built a wigwam in the woods behind my last house (build along part 1 and 2) Unfortunately we had to move last summer.
    I am planning to build a tipi shelter, something like what your describing, as there is no shortage of untouched forest out here LOL!!! I have the area picked out but will wait till the snows gone before i pick the final "spot". I cant wait to see what you do and how! I am sure it will give me ideas and motivation. So, keep at it and take lots of pics. i will be watching this post closely. hopefully we will have an update Saturday evening! thanks
     
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    Well, unfortunately, the weather today didn't cooperate. It was so foggy I couldn't see more than 20 feet in front of me at the best of times, and it rained for part of the day.

    Thatching will have to wait till next week sometime:(

    Sorry guys!
    PMZ
    PS--On a non-related note, I actually took a Sunday nap after church. I was out for at least 3.5 hours! Crazy.
     
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    well, at least you were out (even if not "outdoors".) :D
     
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    :D

    BTW, does anyone know what is the best option for a cheap canvas tarp?

    I'm thinking the whole painter's dropcloth thing might work, but wouldn't last very long.

    Think I might skip the natural debris shelter idea and just throw some sort of cover over it.

    PMZ
     
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    There is a fabric store on my area that carries fabric seconds. My wife and I have bought really nice heavy duty fabric there for about half of retail. I bought a couple yards of linen canvas for $3 a yard. Cotton was even cheaper.

    If you don't have anything like that in your area maybe check the bay or call up the nearest JoAnn Fabric and see if they have any outlet stuff.

    Tapatalk ate my spelling and grammar.
     
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    Know what though? I'll bet the dropcloth idea would work well for a while, even with fires inside, because it would breathe better than a plastic or even a tighter-woven canvas tarp.

    PMZ
     
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    paint the drop cloth and use the paint side out

    skip the "LV" pattern ;)
     
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    Got any swamps around . My Shawnee buddy thatches his wig wams with cattail for his reenactments . Historically correct ,easily obtained and easy to thatch .
    I was thinking if you treated a drop cloth with the recipe for log cabins ( 20 mule team borax and boric acid) it wouldn't get all moldy like they like to do .
     
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    All you need now is palmetto fronds... LOL
     
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    LMBO! A bit far north for those, unfortunately :p

    I will be thatching this with boughs from a blown-down giant white pine only about 45 seconds' walk from the campsite.

    In the spring maybe I'll be able to afford/have the time to pick up and fashion a plastic tarp or canvas cover for it. If I use plastic, I'll probably spraypaint it brown or green. Maybe I'll mask off "windows" before I paint it:D

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