Minimal gear solo winter overnighter 10'F

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  1. T-H

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    Hi Guys.

    I always thought that the axe is the real survival tool. But recently I got big folding saw. In my opinion it's much lighter, much safer and easier to use than axe.
    So I decided to try some winter camping without axe and without any sleeping gear. It went down to 10'F.
    Hopefully this post does break any forum rule.
    Thanks for watching.

     
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  2. EyeOfTheHawk

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    Hey Im just about to watch your video, I just had to agree with you first! I used to think and axe was the end all be all of equipment. Then I did a couple cold winter trips where processing wood was a serious amount of work and #1 priority. Luckily I had an old shop variety woodsaw in my truck because it saved my beans! I still love an axe,but if I could only take one or the other, I would choose a saw probably 9/10 times. With a good knife and a saw you an seriously process some wood. Just my opinion YMMV of course!
     
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    I like to pack a small buck saw and hatchet/bush/camp axe which is used mostly for splitting however will also baton with a knife if there is no axe. On a side note have cut myself with a saw as well. If there is a sharp edge I will find a way to bleed.
     
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    Very cool Tender Gatherer
     
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    Good video.

    I still have to go with an axe for my primary winter survival tool though.

    Saw breakage, sharpening and durability are too much of a concern to me--especially in the winter.
     
  6. FIELDCRAFTLTC

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    Nice trip report, and great demonstration of how effective a long-fire is for keeping warm at night.
     
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    Very impressive!!!! I'm looking forward to giving that a go now. Thank you for sharing.
     
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    I was impressed with the temperature differences in your video-good job.
     
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    Good video, thanks for posting.
     
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    Nice video. Thank you for posting. As Silkys are more prone to break if used wrong, do you carry a spare blade?
     
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    Great video! Now I want a better saw :)
     
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    I agree with you regarding the saw. I also agree regarding saws breaking. My solution is to bring a buck saw and a silky. If they both break, I take it as a sign and go home. Very cool video. Those space blankets are absolutely amazing in the winter.
     
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    Wow! Great video. Really enjoyed it. I read somewhere (Kephart, Miller, one of them) that an entire tree was necessary to get through a night, and you sure proved it. I'll have to admit to laughing watching you try to balance those logs... Have done that teeter-totter/seesaw thing a couple times (usually with a canoe though... i'm too old to be lifting logs). Thanks for the video and for demonstrating the difficulties in spending a night that way.
     
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    Very nice; I always have a saw and then like woods walker was saying an axe or big knife or at the most baton.
     
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    Very well done. Sir!
     
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    Great video,thanks for sharing.
     
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    I like your firewood style,,, go big or go home!!!

    Very nice video,,, very nice,,,!
     
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    Great video! Smoke is rough. Good work giving yourself a quick backup fire, that's way better than having to do a bailout in the dark.
     
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    Thanks Guys.
    Of course - if i can take both - axe and saw - I will take both. It would be a real pain to get as much wood with just an axe.
    A spare blade is something to consider.

    Seeker - those were some heavy logs ;)
     
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    So right away I was very much thinking "this guy is crazy!" But after seeing all the prep done and how warm everything was by the fire I was very impressed.

    Good job taking down that tree btw. Great video that I learned a lot from.
     
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    I also enjoyed the video. Learned quite a bit. Thanks.
     
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    I understand the want to get better at survival and bushcraft. I don't understand the need to be stupid and endanger yourself like that. That weather is no laughing matter. That in mind, awesome video.
     
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    Put yourself ina position where failute isnt an option and youre likely to succeed.
     
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    I wouldn't call that stupid or say he was endangering himself at all. As long as you're capable of getting a fire started and maintaining it, you can sleep just as warm as if you were in a sleeping bag. All fires have a goldilocks zone where it's not too hot and it's not too cold. Sleep in that zone and you're good to go.
     
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    The only dangerous part was felling that tree - always something may go wrong. Other then that I kind of knew what I was doing. My wife knew where I was and we were in contact.
    Sometimes to train You need to do it "real".

    Thank You for all the comments. :)
     
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    Great video.
     
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    Ok, that was awesome. I love to see someone actually going through all the paces instead of just giving us another "here's how to do this one thing" video. (Not that I dislike those videos) I definitely need to rethink some of my gear though. For starters I might need a bigger saw!
     
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    I just wanted to commend you on your winter skills and some great camera work. That was probably just as much work as processing the wood.
     
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    Thanks - that's true. Filming it all was challenging - batteries die quite fast.
     
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    There is nothing stupid
    About it
    I guess you only go out in prime scenarios
    5 days a year when its between 70-80 clear skies 30% humidity
    Going out any other time is just stupid
     
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    Great video. I did something similar last weekend, it was in the teens (fahrenheit). Didn't have a saw or axe, just a machete which weighs less than axe.. but often use a Sven saw. I like to use the fire to "cut" longer logs.
    You obviously know what you're doing so more power to you.
    If you had a clear plastic sheet you could do a supershelter which would keep out most of the smoke?
     
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    Great video, I'm impressed.
     
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    Very nice!
     
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    Yes - I'm planning to do a similar overnighter but in a super shelter this time. Should be much better without the smoke.

    Thanks for all the good comments :)
     
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    I enjoyed the video! Thanks for sharing!
     
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    Good video, thanks for sharing. I'm planning on getting a Silky Zubat to take with me on a couple overnighters in February, but I'll still be taking an axe (in my sled full of gear).
     
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    Very impressive. Your cold tolerance is very good for such a lean fella.
    Adam G
     
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    Actually my cold tolerance is not that great - it just wasn't cold near the fire :)
    ATB
     
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    Nice video. Now I see I need a bigger, better saw than my laplander
     
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    From my observations he was well prepared for that outing. How do you feel he endangered himself?
     
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