Not elder, what is it?

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  1. woodsmith

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    I came across a stand of trees in bloom. At first I thought they might be elder and I'd planned on harvesting some of the blossoms. But when I got closer the leaves were smooth and don't appear to be compound. Here's a photo:

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    Anybody familiar with this? I'm in Louisiana, and it's growing near the water's edge in a somewhat damp environment, but not in standing water. The flowers are upright and the leaves appear to have smooth margins. They are in an alternate arrangement as close as I can tell (I didn't have a lot of time to examine the tree - incoming thunderstorms).
     
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    You are right at first glance sure looks like Elder berry . Don't know what it is tho .
     
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    It could be some sort of dogwood. That's just my best guess.
     
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    Yeah good guess I think . Looks a lot like the blooms on Red Ozier dogwood .
     
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    Dogwood should have opposite branching, no? Looks like the twigs in the background are opppsite
    Just learning so maybe way off base here.
     
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    Red Ozier makes pretty good arrow shafts . I've got a bunch drying in the barn right now .
     
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    Looks like rough leaf dogwood we have around here.
     
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    Hmm, rough leaf dogwood seems most likely. From the descriptions I've found red osier doesn't usually grow this far south and has red twigs, these trees are decidedly gray.

    Thanks! I was really hoping for elder (wanted to try some elder blossom brewing), but no such luck yet.

    http://www.wildflower.org/plants/result.php?id_plant=CODR
     
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    Greetings woodsmith,

    I believe that abo4ster has it right on the money. As you pointed out correctly above, when you are seeking elderberry, you are looking for opposite, as in your pictures, but also pinnately compound leaves.

    Thanks for reading.

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    Ah, had some stiff dogwood the other morning, luckily the wife was there. Seriously though, is that branching in the background enough to call it opposite, which dogwood is?
     
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    I think that's it - the leaves are not what I'd call hairy by any means. Good to know, and glad I didn't harvest the flowers for fritters!
     
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    Does it have lots of nice straight shoots like Red Ozier ? If so it would probabley make good arrows as well .
     

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