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  1. backwoodsamerican

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    what kind of traditional ruck sacks are you guys useing?
     
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    German mountain ruck.
    PMZ
     
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    ruck

    ruck meaning "Back" in german so my backpack is a northface "Krag dancer" i have been using since 1989.

    tomahawk
     
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    Swedish ArmyRuck, Med.Alice Ruck,and an older Jan Sport external frame pack- depends on the purpose.
     
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    What makes a ruck traditional?
     
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    I use a gp medium army ruck for long hikes or a army day pack for day walks
     
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    Alice in sizes med and large as well as a Sweedish ruck that was gifted to me by a dear friend
     
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    I spent 6 years in the Army and was taught to trust my gear I feel the most confortable with their gear I tend to buy military surplus for that reason
     
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    For guiding and expeditions I use Point Zero 90/110 Ltr and until recently for overnight use, a Point Zero 35Ltr, in the jungle I use WXtech, 100% waterproof also use this sac for sailing and sea kayaking too.

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    i use a med alice pack back from my dads days in the military over 20 years. but does anyone know were/if you can get karrimor packs in USA i like the yokes
     
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    For most outdoor activities I use my old North Face Wasatch daypack. I've had a lot of adventures with that old guy.

    When playing bushcraft I use a Duluth Pack Lumber Jack Pack. Originally it was sold as a diaper bag with a changing pad. The wife figured I'd enjoy that pack better than the average diaper bag, so she bought it. Now that the kids are a bit older it does duty carrying dad's knives, axe, and other toys instead of diapers and baby bottles. What more can a backpack ask for? :)
     
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    Backpacks,

    Where to begin....

    For multi day trips or hiking with my children I use a Berghaus Vulcan..

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    120 ltrs with all 3 pockets attached the main sack on it's own is approximately 80 ltrs

    Previous to that I used an Ex NZ Army Large Alice pack.... :eek:

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    For more day to day type bush ramblings. I use a smaller pack of about 45-50 ltrs...

    Originally a Karrimor Alpinste 45 ( the sabre 45's grand daddy) or a Macpac ( NZ make) Pursuit or very recently a Lowe Alpine Sting.

    Karrimor on Left in 1990's resplendant purple Lowe Alpine Sting Centre Macpac Pursuit R

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    Cheers

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    Jimmeny Cricket!! Is that pouch on top where you place your manhood, before you put that thing on your back? :D
     
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    Ha,

    The 1990's were a special time in the UK for outdoor equipment colours...

    Olive green is always a safe bet eh...
     
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    +1 Swedish mil. surp. rucksack:
     
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    I like that pac BMatt looks alot like mine
     
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    It's a good pack. I got mine for about $10. :D
     
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    #1 on the swedish pack also. But I still like ALICE even tho' she kicks my ass when loaded tight on a long walk.
     
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    I have a shoulder bag that I got at Target for most of my short little hikes. For a day bag though I have this really great canvas and leather backpack that I got at the Gap of all places. It has proven to be practically indestructible and has been around the world with me.
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    For multiday trips I have a medium Alice pack I picked up somewhere, or a "European Style RuckSack" I got at a surplus store a while back.
     
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    does anyone know where i can get the sabre 75 at in the US?
     
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    the only thing a know that is comparable is the snugpak rocket pak as for the sabre no clue.
    snugpak makes good stuff though. youc an get them from brigadeqm.com
    bensbackwoods.com uscav.com(rocket and bigger bergen)
     
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    Not sure tbh, think Koa imported his from this side of the pond.
     
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    I use ruck just like those. It has the widest shoulder straps of the lot is why I bought it. They are all made in India. Seems like the cheaper canvas rucks and canvas toolbags are made there nowdays. The quality is good enough and they are easy enough to repair with heavy thread and leather for patches. Only thing I have had to repair is around a snap on a two year old canvas tool bag. At least with a ruck, you can stay away from zippers, snaps and things like that that are more difficult to fix. The same rucks that you see there online at various sites are all the same thing being sold by different people. If you have an army/navy store in your area then you can go there and browse many of the same items and try 'em on.
     
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    I've been looking at one of these. I don't have one yet, but for the price it might be better than a "knock-off". I'm not crazy about camo for a general purpose daypack, but the current trend in consumer outdoor gear seems to mostly be in the "scrambling pack" style - a narrow pack with no external pockets or gear loops. I'd like to have a couple of outside pockets for water bottles and fuel if I'm using a stove.
     
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    Woodsmith,
    That Dutch Ruck looks like a good deal. It would probably last forever.
    J
     
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    I think this belongs in the camp gear for under $100 thread. :D
     
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    he Woodsmith.

    My borther is currently serving in the army and has that pack at home. I tried it a few times. and honestly i don't recommend it. My back starts hurting after 10 minutes, and the
    total space inside the pack isn't great.

    Personally I would go with a small karrimor or a berghaus, but thats just me.

    Bas
     
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    traditional ruck

    a traditional ruck sack ( literally back bag in german) is a pack which looks more like the pack Bmatt has in his post.

    traditional german or european ruck sacks tend to be made of canvas and have webbing straps.

    personally i favor the old trapper nelson type of packs - they are great if you can find one, if not you can make one easily enough.

    tomahawk
     
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    I own one of these:

    LLBean Continental Rucksack

    I also have an old Northface backpack/daypack that I am partial too and my wife just bought me the LLBean Transit.

    I had the Snugpak Rocket and canned it - hated that thing, so uncomfortable at my height.
     
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    Thanks, I'd ordered before I saw your post. It doesn't seem too bad, but I'm going to give it a workout this weekend. I definitely woulnd't want to carry a heavy load in it, but it may work out for a daypack. It sits very high on my back - I think it's designed to so you can use a gear belt underneath.

    I'll look into some others, I want something with a couple of external pockets (I don't like carrying fuel and water in the main gear area if I can help it), a stash pocket in the top flap or a small pocket for compass, light, etc, some way of attaching a 19" axe (sleeve pockets or lash points), and ideally some way of slinging a sleeping bag underneath so I can use it for overnights in mild weather. "Outdoor" packs seems to mostly be based off scrambling packs these days with no outside pockets. The search continues. The Snugpak bags look OK, but from what I've read might not fit me very well (or at least, might not fit the way I want).

    I'm taking a really close look at the packs from Alder Stream Canvas. I've read some good things about them, and they're a heck of a lot cheaper than Duluth Packs - it doesn't matter how good it is, I can't afford to drop $400-500 on a pack right now. Alder Stream has a couple that look good and would come in under $100.
     
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    alder stream pack

    I have an alder stream canvas back pack for sale or trade.

    take a look at the thread i started on it about 2 months ago if interested.

    tomahawk
     
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    I have these:

    Day Hiking / overnight pack:
    http://www.llbean.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CategoryDisplay?categoryId=57614&storeId=1&catalogId=1&langId=-1&parentCategory=9197&feat=9197-tn&cat4=1098

    Trail running or light day hiking:
    http://www.rei.com/product/748228

    Climbing pack:
    http://www.blackdiamondequipment.com/en-us/shop/mountain/packs/speed-30

    Lightweight backpack:
    http://www.granitegear.com/products/backpacks/ultralight/vaportrail.html

    Heavy-gear pack...the picture is of 2009 model...mine is from 1985 :):
    http://www.kelty.com/kelty/products.php?type=4&cat=66&id=513

    Plus a few others, but these are my go-to packs. Needless to say, I like packs!
     
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    I use one of a couple these days. Either a surplus German mountain rucksack, or a Blackhawk Blacktimer. It's a solid rig...

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    I just got this Snugpack 75Ltr in. It also has the two 3Ltr side extensions with it.
    This replaced an old coleman highpeak ruck I had been using for almost 10 years I think.

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    I have two day and overnighter packs

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    This one I use most of all. Adirondack pack basket.

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    skogniv i cant waite to see a video review on that snugpack. i think that is the one i will be getting, but im not shure
     
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    Currently using a Snugpak Sleeka 35, makes a good day or over night pack, and my old medium ALICE pack.
     
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    Yeah yeah I know you all seen it, but for the sake of getting it in the thread...

    Becker patrol pack

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    thats a realy nice one. ive seen it up close when i meet up with woodwonder.
     
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    Alice (med), Bergen, Swedish 35 litre, Joe Brown external frame pack (got in the 70's) which is massive. Don't need any to be honest as I'm only car camping so a big duffel bag will do.
     
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    The traditional packs i use and love are for a day hike a Swedish gas mask bag,for a three day camping trip a 40-45 liter Swedish Military pack.

    Any stay longer than three days then you are talking modern and you asked about traditional.


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    These are always packed and ready to go;)
     
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    Beautifull pack, I just love the leather straps( that sounds wrong in so many ways!!!)
    Used to have one of these but it was stolen during a break in , on the dark continent.
    I am envious Bru.
     
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    Now I just wonder huh Buddy?? LOL
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    well i just carry a75litre knock-off but what i'm looking seriously at is this http://www.mollymacpack.com/
    i think for myself it is a great idea!it is a new cottage industry and the pack is still being tested and improved on-MacEntyre is very honest and has been refining the pack openly over at Hammockforums.net.i beleive in this concept and can see how this will really simplify my load and packing-and i love the cottage industries:)
    p.s-sorry if this became a commercial-i don't even have one yet
     
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    These are my favorite old school Rucks...French Army surplus. Both are the same pattern but from different decades. The Khaki one is older, made in 1969. The OD was in unissued condition when I bought it...not marked with the year but probably '70/'80.

    Shoulder straps are leather with pads of wool blanket material.
     

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