Survival Hiking Staff (pics)

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  1. FavioR

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    I've seen a great number of DIY hiking staffs and I wanted to take a stab at making my own. I really liked many of the features of the Crawford staff, but the price was way over my head so I went off to try to incorporate some in my staff.

    Most DIYourself-ers use 1" PVC so that is where I started. Frankly, I found the 1" pipe to thick to be a comfortable hold for me, so I went down to 3/4" PVC.

    Right from the get go, I liked the idea of incorporating a blowgun in the staff and I also liked the idea I got from someone else about maybe being able to carry water in the staff. My answer to that was to make the bottom half of the staff 1/2" PVC and the top 3/4"

    Problem. I hated the PVC. I was too flexible and wobbled when I tried to use it as a walking stick. It also failed as a water container since it barely held 4oz in the top half. The walls were just too thick. My answer? Aluminum. Well I tried copper and steel plumbing pipe first but both were just too heavy. I got my hands on some 3/4" and 1" (exterior diameter) tubing which I threaded and built my hiking stick with.

    The pictures are more or less my finished product. I would love to get some feedback for you all. I primed and painted the tubing with high temp black and added a blunt spike at the bottom to provide a sure hold.

    Top compartment currently holds:
    -Waterproof Cloth bag (water collection or storage)
    -emergency flash light/strobe wand/whistle
    -knife
    -fishing kit
    -duct tape
    *top compartment holds 10 oz of water and can be used to boil if needed (tested)
    *40 ft of paracord wrapped on outside
    *50 of 10lb braided fishing line wrapped on top. Can be swung to use as hobo fishing kit well enough.

    Bottom compartment currently holds:
    -pair of 3" fire straws
    -ferro rod and striker
    -flashlight
    -2 test tubes with misc meds
    -water purification tabs (individually wrapped)
    -pen refill taped unto sheet of write-in-rain paper
    *tested as a blowgun, results are crazy good!

    I eventually will replace some of the gear in it for a frog gig, and darts as the Crawford is outfitted with, but for right now I am good.

    What do you guys think?

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    wow i want one lol that is an outstanding job by the way
     
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    That is really awesome! Great innovative thinking, very practical, and very stylish too! I couldn't see the contents close up in the pick, what kind of knife is in there?
     
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    Way to go with the DIY! I found walkin sticks expensive when i was lookin at them a few years ago, so I carved my own out of a cedar branch that fell out of a tree in my front yard during a storm. Not a survival stick but same DIY concept. looks like real quality work. there bro good job!
     
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    Thanks! The knife is a basic Buck folder I found in Bass Pro. I wanted to use a knife/saw dual folder but I was very limited in what would fit.

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    I found an old aluminum extension scrub brush for RV's, boats etc in the dumpster and couldn't pass it up. First I removed the brush and hose fittings which were replaced with crutch tips. New brushes can be had from WM or the like for $20.00 or so. Then started wrapping some cordage for grips and spares along with some duct tape. Used jute for the grip and added some 550 and bushline. Found that the orange match cases will stack in the upper section. By removing the items inside and place in a stuff sack it can be collasped.
     
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    where do you find aluminum tubing in those sizes?
     
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    So, When it is all loaded up, How much does it weigh?
     
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    Sounds pretty dang cool. I wish you had some better pictures you could post, its hard see much in the ones posted above.
     
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    Cool. What may I ask is a fire straw?
     
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    Excellent!

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    Tried to weigh it this morning on my way to work but it didn't register enough to show up in my scale. I'll try again with a food scale and let you know though my best guess is prob around 2.5 lbs with the brass connectors taking up most of that weight.
     
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    You know that was the hardest part of the whole thing. I ended up going to every hardware and hobby shop in the area looking for materials to use. This has been a labor of love if you will. I found 3/4" aluminum tubing at a Lowes (I think) and was about to order some online when I found the 1". I want to say it was at a different Lowes but I may be wrong.
     
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    Fire straws are vaseline coated cotton balls sealed inside straws. Waterproof until you need to use them. Lights up super fast and stays lit for 3-5 mins.
     
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    Very nice! I too was aiming for something collapsible but couldn't work it out vs the storage I wanted. Nice work on yours!
     
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    That is slick! I see all sorts of ideas on this forum, y'all are responsible for the pile of unfinished project in my garage!
    Thanks a Lot!

    :4:
     
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    very creative..like it!
     
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    Took these while testing out a homemade dart (paper and gorilla tape on bamboo skewer)

    Gotta say, this was shot from about 25' away with a half breath. I wasn't expecting it to fly that well much less that far/hard!

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    I don't know why but the HD version of the app shrank the pics. I tried them again. Hope these are better.
     
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    My guess is he is referring to a small bit of tubing used to blow into a fire. Very helpful in firecrafting to have a "straw" to control where your blowing into a fire.
     
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    Nice.
     
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    Very nice!
     
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    This is excellent .
     
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    Check out this site guys. It does a good job of explaining what they are and show you how to make them. I have used them on the field, excellent way to start a fire and super easy to stash anywhere in your pack:

    http://www.knivesshipfree.com/pages.php?CDpath=2&pID=41
     
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    Fire harden the tips and you would be surprised what they will penetrate!

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    That looks like a cool staff.
    Is it strong enough to hang a tarp/hammock with?
     
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    Fire straws - Be carefull not to burn your lips!

    Just kidding. Here's a good video on fire straws:

    Firestraws revisited - YouTube

    Fire straws are a neat way to carry Petroleum Jelly Cotton Balls.

    David Enoch
     
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    OK, I learned something new, I had never seen cotton balls carried in a straw before. But I guess they would be a good light space saving way to do so. Personally I carry mine in an old pill bottle.
     
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    I've used it in my yard to prop up rainfly on my HH, but I have not hung the hammock itself from it. Seems like it would hold but I really haven't had a need to try. I am taking it with me on a trip to ONF in a few weeks so I'll let you know how it fares!
     
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    Agreed! I ordered some SS darts that I want to try. Many of the bamboo skewers are slightly bent so I'm hoping the SS fly more predictably. If negligible, I'll definitely try fire hardening.

    Thanks!
     
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    I like it. Plain pure and simple.
     
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    If you heat the bamboo over a fire, or other heat source, and use a couple of small box end wrenches, not much bigger than the diameter of the skewers, you can straighten the shafts much like the indians, and stone age archers straightened their shafts.
     
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    So I shortened up some of the bamboo sticks and made a quiver to go inside the hiking staff. To make space I removed the second flashlight I had in there previously. Not a big loss except it leaves me without an emergency whistle. Gonna try to find a small one to fit in the lower compartment.

    (the tubing you see wrapped around the knife is there to reduce the rattle.)

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    So how do you fire harden bamboo? I just burnt my dart! LOL
     
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    Put it on food scale. Fully loaded it weighs 2lbs 1oz.
     
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    I would add a water purification straw and a 12" multipurpose sawzall blade.
     
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    I like both ideas. Original sketch had the FrontierPro or Sawyer filter attached at the top so that top compartment could be used as a water bottle. Just haven't been able to figure out how to attach without ruining the plastic threads on the filters.

    What else would be useful? I was thinking of removing the medicine test tubes for a rolled piece of heavy duty aluminum and a small emergency whistle?

    Thoughts?
     
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    I've been looking around for ideas to build a staff and really like what you have come up with. Something I saw on another site may work for your whistle needs. It is common to have a wrist strap of some kind at the top of walking staffs. Use a whistle as a dangle on one for yours. You may have solved it by now but that would keep the free space inside. Anyway, great job.
     
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    This is such a neat idea. I use trekking poles, but this could have a place.
     
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    Great idea!
     
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    interesting stuff.
    my dad and his brothers used to make blowgun darts from bicycle spokes 65-70 years ago. they killed big lizards, rabbits and such ...
     
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    nice

    I think its great.
     
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    Brilliant idea!
     
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    Thanks guys. Haven't been here in a while but as I prepare for a few nights in the everglades In a couple of weeks I've decided to make some changes to the pole:

    It went out with me once as pictured. It worked great on ascends and descends, but its tall size slowed me down in thick brush.

    The blowgun part will stay intact. That worked like a charm. I plan on making a shorter top portion, approx 8-10". Wrap it with paracord and cap it with 10 lb braided line as before.

    The smaller size limits what I can carry but I hope it also makes it more comfortable in the swamp.

    I'll take pictures once I make some head way with it.

    Thanks for the kind words and encouragement!
     
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    The whole time I was reading this thread I was just thinking Cold Steel Professional 5 foot one piece blow gun. :4:
     
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    Great ideas and construction of survival staff, it would be easy to incorporate a staff sling while adding very little weight if any. For darts, I used to make them out of 8 penny nails, more nails could be stored than longer bamboo darts and have other valuable uses as well. Using finishing nails may help with storage.
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    A few pictures of the shorter pole:

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    Pretty happy with what I was still able to fit inside. More pics to follow
     
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    Nice job making the survival staff. I would love to know where you found your materials and a closer look at your contents. The one picture looked like you had 2 staffs? Would you be interested in selling one?

    Very inspiring.
     
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    Trial and error Skyrider. I have many pieces that were bought with the idea that they would be used and didn't. Amazon and Google have been my best friends and worst enemies through this. LOL

    I won't lie, the original idea behind this was to prototype something I could eventually sell, but not knowing material strengths and reliability of others my conscience would not let me rest worried that something I made may fail when you needed it most.

    That said, if you wanted to buy it for educational purposes, to get ideas to make your own or change it and make it better then I am sure I can help you. PM me what you have in mind.
     
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    Scout survival stick...what do you guys think?

    www.scoutsurvivalstick.weebly.com

    I am open to any and all suggestions..I will donating part of the proceeds to my Troop.

    Take a look at the options at the top of the website.

    Thanks

    ernie the eyeball
     
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