The McKinney woodsman pack

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  1. Iz

    Iz MEMBER of a BANNED Bushclass I Bushclass Instructor

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    This is a two to three day pack depending on how good you are at packing, what you attach to it, time of year and/or how minimal you want to go.
    It's a small pack influenced by the World War Two jungle pack that rides high on your back.
    It was named in honor of John McKinney, an U.S. Army infantry soldier who by himself killed over a hundred Japanese soldier while serving in the pacific. For his actions he was awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor.
    You can read his official citation here:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_R._McKinney

    If you want to read the whole story you can check out the book "Phantom Warrior". It details about every minute of John Mckinney's actions that day, I highly recommend it. It's an awe inspiring story to say the least.

    These packs will be available in materials other than camouflage in the future also for people who don't want to look too military.
    Here's a video I did on some of the features of the pack and the reason for them.
    [video=youtube;xv-Nywyi_48]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xv-Nywyi_48[/video]

    A picture of the front of the pack. The arrows point to two of the four attachment points on bottom for the yet unmade cinch bag that will go there.
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    A clearer picture of the points on bottom.
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    Side view showing the pals grid that's on each side. The side pockets measure 6x6x3 and have slide through backs.
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    Side view showing the Flash/Thunder axe carrier attached with the axe handle slide behind the pocket
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    Back view showing the axe on one side slid behind the pocket and the Raider side pocket hooked up to the other side. The Raider is loaded with a complete one man shelter. When loaded with a trailblazer saw and tent poles (or similar low profile equipment) it too can be slid behind the side pocket.
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    This is the optional Raider side pocket. Named in honor of the 1st Marine raiders who distinguished themselves during the war in the Pacific and paved the way for many special operations to come. You can read more about them here:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marine_Raiders
    The pocket is about 25" long without the lid.
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    Finally this shows the Miller chest rig hooked up to the McKinney pack and used as a cinch system to suck the pack to the wearer's body.
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    Future changes in the pack:
    All pockets will have side skirts, risers will be added, no drawstring, all buckles will be 1" instead of 3/4", will have the Turley logo on the top lid, a strap sewn behind one side pocket to be used to secure the Raider pocket when loaded with a bulky shelter, possibly adding pals webbing to the inside top of the main pack to be used as hang points for cinch sacks with toggles.

    As always, I hope you like it and let me know if there's anything you think should be incorporated in the design.
     
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  2. cellis

    cellis Post less. Do more. Supporter Bushclass II

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    When I saw your earlier thread I was thinking what I would need is exactly that Raider side pocket you show now. To carry a bucksaw, a chair, and possibly a concealed hatchet through the city. I'll watch your site.
     
  3. Iz

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    Awesome, man. I like the idea of a long pocket, not a lot of places to carry a saw or poles otherwise.
    Thanks, bro.
     
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    WOW! You have been a busy man!

    This is really looking great.
     
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    Thanks, bro!
     
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    That's just crazy man. Nice work Iz.
     
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    Hey Iz,
    That Raider side pocket looks like it could be modded a bit with a padded 2-sided pocket insert to accept a take down rifle...
    Fantastic work buddy!

    Regards,

    ezra
     
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    I am impressed. Looks like a updated and refined Becker Patrol Pack but with woodsman specific features. I think you should have called it the Hardwoodsman pack but that's just me :) Nice work Iz!
     
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    I need me one of those Raider pockets....
     
  10. IA Woodsman

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    Lookin good Turley. I am glad you are going with pockets and less Molle.
     
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    +1.........Uncas
     
  12. Iz

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    Yeah, for sure Ez.
    I need to see what the measurements are on the new 10/22 break down model. I'm betting it will fit in the raider.

    Thanks a ton, fellas.
     
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    Looks awesome iz. You're gonna have to hire staff to make this stuff if you keep it up! Everybody is gonna want some! :dblthumb:
     
  14. Iz

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    Haha. I wish I could afford to pay some sewers, I've to more ideas than I have time.
    Thanks, bro.
     
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    wow Iz.. nice work.. you are definitely a man of many talents... i am very impressed.. and you can draw too..:)
     
  16. Iz

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    Thanks for the encouragement, Mike!
     
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    Iz -

    you're going to put these on the machine yourself? I know you've got a no-outsource rule for knife-making, but are you going to apply the same rule for this pack? You've got a lot of commitment man - I'll say that much. You'll be sewing packs until The Trumpet sounds. Whew!
     
  18. Iz

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    Heh. Yeah, that's why I don't take orders on them. I just sew them up when I have time right now. I don't have the money to pay somebody to make a run of these things, probably never will. So they'll be pretty rare I guess.
    Thanks, bro.
     
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    Love it
     
  20. Iz

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    Thanks, Joe.
     
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    The pack look's great Iz. Chest harness also. Use a kifaru back pocket pouch in back of it and you would be set for a good day out.
     
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    Thanks, fox!
    Much appreciated, man.
     
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    I like what I see, nice design features options too, I see it's a one man shop but what color choices may the future hold?
     
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    That right there is a great looking pack. Awesome work Iz.
     
  25. Iz

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    It'll probably be mainly o.d. green and coyote brown. But eventually I'd like to make some in even more civilian colors. Maybe some chocolate, khaki and maybe even some greys. I want to stay away from the bright civilian stuff (blues, reds) .

    Thanks, fellas.
     
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    Ready?

    Iz, I haven't read this thread in awhile but was very interested in the McKinney pack. Any progress? Looks like a great all around outdoors pack.
     
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    I have the prototype now. Iz has said he won't be making anymore as it is too much time and effort. It's a great pack and I really like it for a number of reasons. It's collector's item now though, I'll sell it to you for double what I paid. :3:
     
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    Probably way out of my league, but I'll ask anyway. How much would that be?
     
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    I was just joshing around but if you are really serious and really would like it send me a pm and we can work something out. I have enough stuff as it is and might be moving here soon and if it fits your needs that's cool. I was kidding about the price I'll send it off for what I paid plus shipping (from Japan be warned.)
     
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    WTF? Dude your too talented to be just an average hillbilly.... must be some sort of mutant hillbilly. Awesome!
     
  31. Iz

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    Thanks, bro! Yeah, Cellis bought the prototype. I've got a new proto made already, changed a few things on it. But I've got more plans for improving it that I haven't gotten around to yet. Next on the list of upgrades is making it attachable to an alice frame just for some versatility. I'll see if I can get the new one up on video soon.

    Heh. Yeah, I made another one. :4: Every time I make something on that infernal machine I swear I won't make anything else. Then I get an idea and everything goes out the window.



    Thanks, Lerch. I'm definitely some kind of mutant but I'm pretty sure that has nothing to do with talent and more to do with medical mystery. heh.
     
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    Totally blocking my game bro. Totally. I was thinking antiques road show and all that.

    Nah just kidding of course, if I do need to give it up for if we have to move I'm not making a cent, I really love it, and only will pass it on to somebody who will appreciate it. The idea of you huddled over a sewing machine all day cursing is worth it alone.
     
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    Good to know. I really like the idea behind it. If you work out the frame idea it would be like the tropical pack or Canadian 64 pack. Love that pack. I have been in contact with Cellis about possibly buying it from him.
     
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    I've been trying to figure that one out myself. I haven't figured out how to pad the sleeve just right and than sew it on the bag so it carries weight.

    Looking forward to the new one.
     
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    Easiest way would probably to use the straps on it like Croatoan did with his Nessmuk. Use the straps and possibly side straps with fastex buckles to secure the sides. A side benefit using an alice frame would be the possibility of doing a Hellcat set up for straps and waist pad.
     
  36. Iz

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    Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. I'll test the straps and buckles to see if they'll take the weight, I'm thinking it won't be a problem since the bag isn't huge to begin with. We'll see though.

    Thanks, fellas!
     
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    Haha. Sorry, bro. Not my intent at all. :14:
     
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    I am worn out so the best you guys get is a picasa album link but here are some pictures I took of what I have for nj2656.

    Click for bad pictures: https://picasaweb.google.com/104282397163859943754/20130123223409?authkey=Gv1sRgCPj5pqjn75rM1gE

    I am not trying to sell it also btw, I hope it doesn't come off like that, I am just putting as much info about the prototype as I can. If somebody needs it more than me though it's all good.
     
  39. Panzer

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    Some how the packmaster feels cheated not getting try one of these. Packmaster big angry!

    Awesome pack. The detail photos really help allot.
     
  40. Iz

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    Thanks, guys.:dblthumb:
     
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    I absolutely love this, and only hope that it is offered in solid colored fabrics as well, either Coyote or OD. Great stuff man!
     
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    Iz, if the knife thing doesn't work out...... Seriously though hoping you continue development of the pack.
     
  43. Iz

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    Thanks, fellas. I think I'm close to having this pack where I want it function and design wise. I've got an o.d. green one done now that's the second generation if you want to call it that. One more generation and I hope to have it right where I want it.
    Thanks for the kind words, guys.
     
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    I'm really looking forward to seeing how this project evolves.

    Since the Eagle Becker is no longer made, I think a production model McKinney would be a really great pack.

    Just sayin'...I'd buy one.
     
  45. Iz

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    Thanks, Tor! I hope to get back to it soon.
     
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    that pack is almost perfect. it still looks like its missing something though. hmmmm oh shoot i got it..... it needs a Mora strapped to it!:3:.. awesome work IZ
     
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    Iz, wondering if you have an update?
     
  48. Iz

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    Yeah, I sewed up another prototype that incorporates a few changes. Mainly longer side pocket that you can fit a nalgene or guyout into and the pockets have cinch straps on them too.
    I'm still not totally happy with it though. I've been carrying it and I figure I need to change how the lid is attached and how the straps are attached. I have them too high right now and the risers don't work well.
    Here's a quick pic of the second prototype
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    Thanks for asking, bro!
     
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    That's a nice looking, functional pack. It appears that you are becoming quite the entra-pin-oooer.

    Congratulations on your new venture. Best wishes for success! I know you'll find many willing customers on BCUSA!
     
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    Are you taking orders or selling these yet? You have tallent.
     

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