What is your Muzzleloading Rifle/Load of Choice?

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    Thompson Center Omega .50 Caliber
    150 grains Pyrodex or White Hot with 240 grain Hornady XTP hollow point sabot with Winchester Triple Seven 209 primer

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    T/C Greyhawk, 80 gr. Goex & a cast .490 roundball. TOW pre-lubed patches & whatever #11 caps I have laying around.

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    Knight Bighorn 50 caliber. 100 grains of Pyrodex RS, T/C 230 HP sabot, Winchester 209 primer. Sighted in at 100 yards thru a cheap Bushnell 3x9x40.

    I played with powder loads and it started opening up the groups at 110 grains of powder. I will try new bullets next season but with these bullets and 100 grains it is holding a 1.5" group.
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    TC Renegade .54 cal left handed
    Hornady 425gr Great Plains bullet
    100 grains 2F black powder
    #11 cap
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    Custom Flintlock, Larger Siler lock with Green Mountain barrel. .54 cal home cast round ball, spit patch and 65 grains of FFF goex.

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    Squirrel rifle, semi custom Southern Poor Boy, percussion lock, 30 Grains FFF, .360 round ball, pillow tick patch, mink tallow lube.

    Deer, custom 12 gauge fowler, flint lock, 70 grain FF GOEX, .710 round ball, over powder wad, cushion wad, pillow tick patch, mink tallow lube. (AKA Moe's load...the wads made a huge difference shooting round ball out of the smoothbore).
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    Traditional: 50 cal T/C Hawkin built from kit in 1980, 370 grn maxi ball pushed out by 90 grn of fffg black powder
    Inline: T/C Black Diamond Scoped with a 4X Bushnell 240 grn Hornady XTC saboted 44 cal shoved out by 2 50grn pyrodex pellets
    Please don't curse me for using an inline, I thought it would be a much bigger sin to scope the hawkins and my eyesight is going south!
    Squirrel: .32 Traditions Crockett rifle with a patched round ball shoved out by 20 grns of fffg Black powder
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    Lyman Great Plains 50 cal. Flintlock
    .490 round ball
    .020 patch
    Goex 2F 70 grains
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    Swiss 2F 50 grains
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    .50 Thompson/Center Renegade: 90 gr. 2F Goex/370 gr. Maxie lubed with Bore Butter (a number of deer)
    .50 self-built Pre-Revolutionary Lancaster (42"X15/16" Green River-no longer in production-barrel, Large Siler lock): 100 gr. 2F Goex/.495 round ball (only 1 deer)
    .54 Thompson/Center Hawkin: 80 gr. 2F Goex/.530 round ball (haven't shot anything but paper with this one)

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    That depends on what I'm hunting. If I hunt deer, I use my self built 45 southern mountain rifle with a 200 grain Lee REAL bullet and 70 grains 3f. If I'm hunting squirrels or rabbits, I use my self built 32 cal southern mountain rifle with a 319 patched roundball and 20 grains 3f. I'f I'm huning groundhogs or coyote, I use my self built 40 ca half stock Ohio rifle with a 390 patched roundball and 45 grains 3f.
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    Thompson Center Tree Hawk carbine, .50 cal.
    Hornady 385 gr Great Plains bullet
    90 grs Pyrodex if I'm shooting it
    50 grs Pyrodex if my daughter is shooting
    Remington #11 caps

    Open sights and dead nuts on with either charge out to 75 yds.
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    Thompson center Omega .50 cal
    100 grains Pyrodex
    250 grain shockwave sabot
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    .577 British Enfield shooting a 500 grain MiniƩ Ball with 45-70 grains of FF blackpowder
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    Lyman Great Plains rifle, 54 cal., cast round ball with .015 pillow ticking patch, 120 grains of 2F black powder or Pyrodex RS. Patch lube varies.
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    For deer I use 90 grains of pyrodex and a maxi ball,
    and for small game, 30 grains pyrodex and a patched round ball,
    this is out of my T/C Hawkins rifle 50 cal.
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    Your cast .54's are great!! I bought some from you at the trade blanket at DT10.

    BTW...thanks for all your great articles I really enjoy reading them.

    Bob
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    Mr. 1Machete,
    Is your 3-band Enfield an original, Parker Hale, or?
    We have a Parker Hale 3-band we have used on Caribou and Moose. Plus a few Squirrels, Hare and Grouse with head shots.
    We purchased it new, back in the mid 70s?
    Best Wishes
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    The one I miss the most is my 58 hawken that I shot with 120 grains swiss FFg and a T/C maxi-hunter
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    My go to hunting load with my T/C White Mtn Carbine is
    85gr GoEx FFG
    270 gr platinum powerbelts. Keeps everything in a fist sized group.
    At 25yds it hits 5" high
    At 50 yds it hits 2ish" high
    At 100 yds it's dead on as long as I don't flinch and keep my follow through. This batch of CCI caps doesn't like to go off as quickly as others. I like the Remington caps better.

    For fun shooting, 70-75gr FFG with .490 Hornady round balls and whatever size patches I bought last time works nicely.
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    t/c black diamond, 50 caliber, 100 grains pyrodex, 230(?)-grain shockwave with sabot, 209 shotgun primer, factory open sights. alabama allows muzzle-loader hunters a 5-day jump on gun season. starts monday. i envy y'all's slow-twist round ball shooters. someday, a 20-gauge fowler, someday ...
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    About the same for me. I have my Omega sighted in with 300 gr XTP bullets. I hunt elk so the heavier bullet is a good idea. This is a very accurate load for me, and very deadly.
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    .50 cal Traditions Shenandoah Rock-Knocker
    75 grains of Swiss or Goex
    .490 roundball
    I use homespun cotton for patches, cut and tie them with a one thread loop around the ball. Pop it in my mouth for a little spit then down the barrel. I keep 20-30 of them in a bullet pouch on my belt. They make reloading a lot faster and easier.
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    home cast molded .490 roundball and 90 grains of GOEX 3f... amazing combination with CCI #11's from a custom shop Traditions .50cal sidelock
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    S.S. T/C Encore with a Leupold VX-2 3-9x40 scope loaded with 150gr 777 (3x 50gr pellet), 200 gr T/C shockwaves. As soon as use them up I'm going to switch to the Powerbelts.
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    Sorry been away for awhile, it is a 3 band Enfield. Shoots great. I carry my rounds premade in my cartridge box. English and American style rounds. Pic attached I have heard for small game that shooting the branch or the ground underneath with this large caliber kills via stunning rather than destroying the meat. I'll have to give it a try this weekend and see if that works.
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    50 cal 250 gr R.E.A.L 100 gr 777 #10 remington magnum percussion cap
    buckskinner carbine

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    T/C Black Diamond here. 348gr Powerbelt with 100gr (50gr x 2) Pyrodex Pellets in front of Musket caps. We don't need that much range here in the Eastern Woods.
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    T/C Hawken .54 110 grains Pyrodex or black powder with 348 grain Power Belt bullets
    New to me T/C Firehawk stainless with a Nikon 3x9 (hated to go inline but the venison is always needed) shoots like a laser with 95 grains Pyrodex RS and 240 grain Hornady XTP hollow point sabot and No. 11 caps for both
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    TC Hawken, 1:48 .54
    90gr Pyrodex with Buffalo Bullet or Hornady round swaged balls, .530 and 230grins

    100gr Pyrodex with TC Maxi-Hunter 435gr pre lubed

    sold rifle so likely going to get a Lyman Plains in same caliber next year....
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    Tennecedar stole my answer. Part of it anyway.

    Bighorn Magnun
    100 grains pyrodex pellets
    T/C Shockwave 245 gr sabot.
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    For Deer Coyote and Black Bear I use
    CVA Magnum Hunter
    .45cal ,195 grain Powerbelt
    150gr Pyrodex= 3 pellets

    For Squirrel rabbits and Pheasant I use
    H&R Single Shot 12
    209 primer adapter from Gun Adapters dot com
    70 grains Goex
    75 grains #6 shot
    & Whatever 209 primers I have around.
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    Lyman Trade Rifle
    .54 caliber, percussion, 1:48 twist
    Tang peep sight + flat brass bead front
    120gr Goex + 425gr Hornady Great Plains HBHP minieball, shoots 3-4" at 100yd.

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    It's a nice melding of traditional form with modern-ish sights and internals, and the Lymans don't break the bank too bad. I like it a lot.

    I'd been looking into a .36 or a fowler for small game, given the whole .22LR situation, but haven't yet found one at a condition/price I am willing to go for... So I went for that .22 PCP pellet gun in the background instead.
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    Home built Hawken Caplock, for deer hunting. 90gr 3F GOEX. .010 patch and .610dia, 342 gr big roundball

    For Competition, Home built Hawken in .54 with 40in rice barrel. at 100yds off of crossed sticks it will put them all in a nice ragged hole.
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    50 caliber self built flintlock

    70 to 110 grains FFFg BP (prefer swiss, but goex, or home made is fine)
    FFFFg priming powder.
    Self knapped flint (There were some amber flints I bought a long time ago that were very old when i got them, really liked those.)
    Round ball with patch. (.490 or .495 with .005 or .010 patching)
    lube with something not petroleum based. If ya want fancy try bore butter.
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    .40 cal LC Rice barrel, small Siler Flintlock, built in the style of Jacob Dickert by James Ingram. Load 45gr FFF GOEX, .395 Hornady round ball over a Pillow tick patch. Working with Dutch Schultz loading method to get best load and consistency, not there yet so load may change in time.

    Trust me the picture does not do justice to the rifle. The lock was engraved by Charles Maggart and inlayed with 24K gold the barrel is engraved by James Ingram as is the patch box, toe plates, hunter's star, wrist silver medallion, etc. and the wood speaks for itself!

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    I used 80 grs 3f with a patched round ball in a Lyman Great plains rifle, and about 80 or 90 grs of 3f with a Lyman 450 gr 50-70 bullet in an early 50 cal Shiloh Sharps carbine. I seated the bullet into the bullet chamber part of the chamber with a short starter, then poured the powder in til full, which turned out to be about 80 or 90 grs. Shot very well.
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    20 gauge custom English style flintlock fowler , 75 Grains of powder , felt wad, 75grains of #4 shot , overshot card, hopefully a turkey wanders in front of that at 20 yds.
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    In my self-built, smoothbore, .62 cal., Fusil de Chasse I use 80 grains of FFg, and a .600 ball with a .015 patch. I cast the .600 ball in a Tanner mold using soft lead. This is an accurate deer load. For grouse, rabbits, and the like I use 80 grains of 6 shot over 70 grains of FFG. For shot loads in a cylinder bore remember this little rhyme... "Less powder, more lead, shoots far, kills dead. More powder, less lead, kicks hard, wide spread."
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    My wife and I shoot our T/C Encores with 100 grain 777 under a 240 grain Precision Rifle Bullet - good to 300 yards. Longest shot thus far has been 215.

    Hers is a full factory rifle with a Nikon 3-9x40 scope on it (getting too old to see at longer range with open sights...lol)

    Mine is sporting a custom 18 inch barrel from Bullberry and a stockset from them as well with a Nikon 3-9x40 scope as well. I had this setup made with a second short stock when my kids were too young to handle a heavy full size rifle so they could deer hunt with Mom n Dad. All my kids started deer hunting at 9 yrs. old.
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    Found a nice Lyman .54 Minnie-ball mold at a gun show a couple weeks ago. (410 grs.) The skirt seems to be a bit thicker than original Minnie's--but not as thick as the Great Plains bullets that came with my T/C Hawken. I'm kinda anxious to pour up some lead, but it will have to wait 'till Spring. I'm think'n maybe 70-80grs. Goex 2F?

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    I've used both FFg and FFFg in my .54, but I guess you're technically supposed to use FFg.

    I'd start out at 50gn or so and work up. There will come a point when your groups tighten up, and then start to spread again. For my .54 with the particular 425gn conicals that it seems to like best, that's somewhere around 110-120gn of real BP, or a little less with Pyrodex for some reason. But you'll have to work up your particular gun's sweet spot yourself. I theorize that it mostly depends on the twist rate vs bullet weight, but that's just an uneducated guess on my part. There's probably some kind of ballistic coefficient thing in there, too, but I dunno. Just seems like round ball seems to be happier with a bit lighter charge for whatever reason.

    Edit: Then again, I guess maybe sometimes one has to sacrifice some accuracy to get the job done... The .45 kentucky rifle I hunted with when I was a kid was most accurate (and I use the term "accurate" very loosely with that piece of junk) with 45gn (shooting round ball), but I hunted deer with 70gr because the 45gr charge just didn't seem to kill them as quick as I liked. :(
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    I've shot a number of whitetails with my first smoke pole (T/C Renegade) using 90 grs. 2F behind a 370 gr. Maxi, but it's a solid base design. This will be my first experience with a Minnie.

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    I am looking to build a T/C Hawken or Renegade with a new Green Mountain 50 cal. LRH barrel I got at a flea market. Just need the lockset and the stock if anyone has a rifle or parts to trade/sell.
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    Ive got half a dozen muzzleloaders but I cast all my own bullets..From round balls to maxi balls..
    A .54 PRB over 80 gr of 2f put this one in the freezer just a couple months ago..
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    sub 1" groups at 50yards with the above rifle and load..it should say .530, not .490
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    Lyman Great Plains Hunter 54 Cal
    Hornady 425gr Great Plains bullet
    80 grains 777 black powder
    #11 cap
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    TC Encore
    100 gr 777 (2 pellets)
    200 gr TC Shockwaves

    100 yard cloverleaf all day long. Most accurate rifle I have. I have unbelievable confidence in this gun.
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    50 cal Knight original DISC, topped with a Nikon 3-9. 110 grains of loose 777. 195 grain PR bullet. Does the trick on Iowa whitetail.

    I would love to find a .32cal for small game.
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    X2 My son and I shoot the same thing. Both left handed too.
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