1lb 'Backpocket' Bushcraft Kit (wood processing & fire kit)

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  1. reppans

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    I'm a minimalist grayman EDCer that tries to cover it all out of a small <10lb/L bag, whether it's a day out in the woods or a day in the city, and still be prepared for the unplanned outdoor overnighter. Here's my idea for a compact, lightweight, deep conceal rig that it is still robust enough for regular use. I carry the knife on person and pouch in my bag. Be happy to answer questions and hear any suggestions for improvement, subject to the 'backpocket' size limitation (does this make my butt look fat? :36:) - that's all I'm willing to commit for this kit. The pictures should be self explanatory, hope it can help some folks.

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    Nice. Where did you get the small wedge? And what material is it made from?
     
  3. NevadaBlue

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    Did you make the little wedge?
     
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    Google 'Easy Pry' - they're plastic (a tough one), <$10 and all over the place - I sawed off the thin tip and prying stuff at the tail.
     
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    Thanks. :)
     
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    Very nice kit there, I like it!
    I am more for "what I have on me are the things I am using " and a Victorinox Spirit X + a Bic are always on me (belt and pocket) - 9.4 oz.

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    Here's a shot of the DIY... 1oz (left) and it works amazingly well. Gotta see if I can split wood that has a larger diameter than the knife blade next.
     
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    That is a very well thought out kit. Good job!
     
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    Looks like a very capable kit. Thx for sharing. I find the little wedge interesting.
     
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    Nice kit, that looks like it can punch way above its weight. Thanks for sharing.
     
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    Well done! Nice to see a new take on a classic idea from time to time.
     
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    I have been using wedges for years. I keeps me from doing stupid things with my knife when I do not have a hatchet. Wedges are really easy to make in the field.

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    Yeah, the wedge was the tipping point for this kit. Hard-use folders can easily handle centered batoning for the start cut, but off-centered/tip baton through the rest a log is brutal on a folder's lock and pivot. I'm just happy such small lightweight solution exists.

    To be honest, a fixed blade wouldn't help as I'm at my state's legal length limit with that knife.
     
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    Before this, I did try a carved wood wedge but had poor results - the edges of the split dug into the grain of the wedge's bevel and then there was no moving it forward. But perhaps it was user error with a lazy man's obtuse angle - might have worked better if I took the time to create a more acute angle and longer bevel... but I might as well stick with this one now.
     
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    Love the little wedge and hows the chain saw? What brand or where did you get it? Thanks!
     
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    yeah this ^

    how much abuse have you put the wedge through? Can it take a pounding?
     
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    I third this. Been wondering about that chainsaw but not many people on this forum seem to use it
     
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    The plastic wedges that loggers use take a lot of abuse. This wedge sure makes me think it is made of UHMW (Ultra High Molecular Weight) PolyEtheylene. But I don't think that material would be any good as a prybar/brad puller.
     
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    THIS POST sums it up for me. IIRC, the 'even spacing' in my testing was about +50%. So if the bow saw cut in 7 sec, the every-link cuts in 10, the Laplander cuts in 15, and the every-third-link cuts in 23sec. I think most naysayers have only used the every-third-link versions (which, by far, most versions are), and that's where they get bad press, but rightfully so cuz those do suck. Here's the difference:

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    The wedge was the last add - yesterday - so what you see is what I've split with so far (it's been 25-30F). Wasn't quite happy with batoning the folder off-center, but the wedge eliminates that problem and was the tipping point to present the kit here. Now everything feels well balanced and well within their capabilities for regular firewood prep. I have previously recommended the every-link chainsaws, but to little interest.

    I agree with DarrylM... this thing seems TOUGH - there's not a scratch on it, matter of fact, took quite a bit to cut though the thick part with a hacksaw. Definitely not as much as steel, but my gut says more than aluminum. So far it's always split the wood before the tip touches anything. It also feels like Teflon through the wood - zero friction.
     
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    Sounds like it may be Delrin. I have some blocks of that, I should make a wedge or two.
     
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    you're right!

    I have an "every third" and found it to be barely acceptable
     
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    ‘Delrin’ is UHMW poly. A very stiff high lubricity(self lubricating) plastic. Often used in high friction applications; performance suspension where human comfort plays fourth chair fiddle. I used to see it used in industries to support huge cables for winching C6 covered hoppers(rail cars) to spot. They’d move up to 13 cars of bauxite ore to spot per string. These pads kept that inch ‘n’ a half cable out of the dirt while under tension. Tuff stuff, never in thirty years of “spottin’ Kaiser” did I see where they changed ‘em out, they’d just rotate and flip ‘em around and SLOWLY grind a new channel.

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    Very cool set up! Nice, compact and capable. Thanks for sharing this!!
     
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    What knife is that
     
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    Whats the silver thing just to the left of the chain saw?
     
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    Cold Steel SR1.

    Pocket bellows.
     
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    Pocket bellows? Where did you find that? It looks like an antenna from an old walkie talkie and I think I need one
     
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    You can buy an awesome version from @andy.t at 5col, or make your own. I was gifted one in Secret Santa a couple years ago and it is an indispensable piece of my kit!
     
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