2018 gardens

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  1. 1911srule

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    Had some good fortune, someone thought they were dumping trash on my property...an antique steel bath tub. It was quickly moved to my back deck cleaned up and filled with mushroom soil to become a planter...
     
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    The pic is a sample of my sweet corn sprouts. I planted 140 seeds, I can see 50ish so far. I took this yesterday morning. They've doubled in height to my eye in a day. Last year I planted dry seed in wet ground. It took about 2 weeks to poke thru the dirt. I presoaked these seeds overnight before planting. Less than a week to see the first greens. They get 2 gallons water per patch at the moment every day. That will increase a lot. Im not using a concentrated fertilizer at this stage. Miracle grow spray feed for example. Im told it can burn the roots. When I get the first set of leaves. I'll use shake and feed. Slower release than the spray. My yield last year was only 1 in 3 made a edible cob. Im applying some lessons and hoping for better.
    Cheers Jim
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    They took on some more height in the last day and a half. A second patch in the far back ground. Third behind me to my left. I'm excited how fast they are growing!
    Cheers Jim
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    Nice!! My corn currently
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  5. Zunga

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    Nice! You got started earlier than I did. Im a week or two from that size. I was just plain lazy. Are those peppers to the left? They do well here both sweet and jalapenos.
    Cheers Jim
     
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    Potatoes and peas
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    I've been ignoring the garden threads as I haven't started one on the homestead. I'd like to do an aquaponic garden but I've been traveling so much the last couple years that has become impossible. Since the homestead is to act as a home base between western USA road/camping trips the probability of a garden is pretty slim. Soooo, I've decide to put more effort into foraging around my place. Prickly pear for jelly, syrup and napales. I'll hopefully be giving it a try when I get back next week! I should get a few tomato plants but I need to get some sort of cheap self watering method for them.
     
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    You could split the difference. Scatter some hardy seeds in select spots. Come back with a bigger variety next year on foraging trips. Plants that over winter or lay dormant. Onions and peas pop to mind.
    Cheers Jim
     
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    This is a good idea. problems I see right off the bat are finding native edible plants to "seed"(easy enough) and the herds of free range cows that eat everything. I mean everything, think of cows as being big goats. I could put up a fence to protect my garden but my real problem is the time I spend away and not wanting to inhibit the animals I do get to watch from my seat on my front porch.
     
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    wayward cows would make short work a garden. I only need worry over deer and racoon. Coyote if I kept animals. Otherwise It sounds like I have it easy!
    Cheers Jim
     
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    No ones is easier or harder, just different.
     
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    I just picked and inhaled the first 4 strawberries. So yummy! It looks like a really good year. I've got tons of chubby green berries! Stingers every which way and new plants rooting off them. Once the corn is done. I'm going to dedicate that end of the garden to strawberries. Build a couple more towers and transplant the new starts. In a year or two I should have a Forrest of them!
    Cheers Jim
     
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    Right after planting a fee weeks ago. We have straw down now. That's my wife and kids in back by the potato box.

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    Very nice
     
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    Nice! That's some dark soil! I bet it will produce like mad! :dblthumb:
    Cheers Jim
     
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    Michigan has pretty great soil, in general. We are the 2nd most agriculturally diverse state. Only California grows more types of products. Basically, if it wasnt for citrus, we'd be #1, lol.
     
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    There are areas here that have super soil but not everywhere. Fraser valley and the okanogan are the big two. The okanogan is like the yakima valley in Washington state. Fraser valley is the bottom end of the Fraser river. A lot of built up river silt over A long time.
    Cheers Jim
     
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    Tools for the day...

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    Just trying to get my yard to stop growing rocks, and getting my roses in order. I'll toss up some flower pictures, when they're no longer embarrassing...

    I grow flowers more than food, I have two radishes going, and a few leeks.

    Lots of great ideas will be borrowed from this thread!

    Thanks,

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    Some updated pics.
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    Potato box is moving along nicely.
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    Things are going good. I picked a bowl of strawberries every other day for the last week or more.

    Peas are all flowering, we're just started eating kale and collards from this years plants, lots of cilantro, basil and parsley already.

    Tomatoes are up nicely, and starting to set a couple here and there. Lots of flowers. A few warm nights will really turn them on.

    Peppers looking good, a few flowers. They really need some warm nights, more than the maters even. It's still early and I like cool weather, so that's fine!

    Cukes, beans, and squash are all up and growing good.

    And the apples trees will break if I don't thin them this year, this is about as heavy as I've ever seen them set.

    Lots of plums, pears, cherries, quince and a few peaches coming too.

    Grapes have yet to flower, but are growing fast.

    Shaping up to be a good garden year around here so far:)
     
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    About time to grab some of this mint to start drying for tea...

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    Lots of digging in the dirt today..

    in the background you can also see my badly ignored raised bed...

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    Giving my roses fresh dirt, and pulling out all the strangle grass...

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    Thanks,

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    Seems like I have a new weed problem in Upper Garden.

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    Greens are toast, weather got too hot too fast. Had a few "messes" of mixed greens and a couple of turnips, but the chards are the only ones that will stay in place much longer.

    Peas were very productive, grew up to 4-5' on welded wire support, then folded over and grew about that much more. They are done now, will be pulled for planting peppers in the same place.

    Both sets of bush beans are up, with the first having tiny beans. Time to plant some more.

    The 8 tomatoes in raised bed are doing very well, most 4-5' tall and loaded with blossoms. I think they all have set at least 2-3 fruits, with the exception of the red cherry, which has 1-2 dozen at least, and the 4th of July may have almost a dozen set. I was afraid the orange Kentucky beefsteak would be another Mr. Stripey for me, a huge plant with one or two tomatoes set all season, but both plants have already out produced it :).

    The dozen tomato plants in trenches along my fence were planted later, so only 2-3' high, with blossoms just appearing in profusion, except one has already set several fruit. Again, I suspect it is the red cherry...

    Another dozen in a trench in the front yard have only been planted since memorial day, so they are behind, but the forth of July plant has 2 fruits set from flowers that were on it at planting.

    I have 20 more tomato plants to put out. My plan is to do a sort of sprawl by trenching a grid in a field with my potato plow and planting each plant at an intersection with improved soil, mulching with paper and straw/hay for weed suppression and moisture retention, as well as added fertility when it rots down, while also giving the fruits a clean bed to rest on. I hope to create conditions favorable to cross pollination and self selection, ideally leading to self-seeding in future years. Probably I'll just get a big mess on the first try, but we will see. I'm including F1 hybrids in the sprawl because subsequent generations often have interesting variations. I've been intrigued by the work done by Joseph Lofthouse in creating landraces, but I have better conditions than his for indeterminate and larger fruited plants. Of course, I'm just messing around and won't get close to his results, but I've found nature can be impressive when given a chance to do it's own thing. I'm just going to give it a fair start and see what happens...

    I have two plantings of cucumbers and squash. The first is climbing and/or flowering; the second is just up with true leaves.
     
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    Mmmmm... fresh kale...
     
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    Mine is slowly coming along.

    This rose survived the winter in a pot!
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    This wild thyme is doing great IMG_20180612_172742969.jpg

    Otherwise, i have a few garlic going strong and only 3 out of 11 tomato plants have been eaten by the monster under the neighbourg's shed.

    Jerusalem artichokes are surprisingly thriving in a dry/full shade spot!
     
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    Forgot to throw in the herb box.
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    Filled my mother's green house with plants.

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    Took the tiller out and finished prepping beds for cabbage and kale. The tiller my dad bought in 1980. I replaced the motor with a Subaru Robin commercial 5 bearing 5 horse motor I bought off of small engine warehouse for a very reasonable price. While the motor is much quieter and burns cleaner it does not have the same low end torque of the original motor but is working out just fine.

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    Strawberries slowly ripening but the honey berry is almost ready to harvest. The honey berry is an edible fruitimg variety in the honey suckle family. The taste is between a sour grape and a huckleberry, very good. The variety thsat we have that tastes best is an improved selection that is called Borealius, out of Canada. We have 3 other varieties out of Japan that while they taste good they are not my favourites.

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    Last but not least is Middle Garden that my mother and I both tend. Onions grow very well for us and we grow enough for 3 families to eat daily over the long winters.

    The peas are not as happy as in years past and I think part of the problem is that peas and onions are not good garden companions but I did not tell my mother that until she planted the onions right up against the pea fence.

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    This week we worked on some support for the berries and grapes. Basically wooden frames for cattle panels that are attached to t posts. Later we will dig out some holes for wooden posts but the ground is too dry and hard for now. Even our gas powered auger won’t dig.
     
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    A update. Things are growing well. Corn and Swiss chard. Snow peas are flowering and strawberry explosion in their tower.
    Cheers Jim
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    I generally pick berries every night after watering. I let it go to 2 days and it paid off. Bigger, fatter and juicier. I get half to a third of this daily. That's from 20 odd plants.
    Cheers Jim
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    Here's what I have so far. Been eating radish, spinach, variety of leafy greens for a few weeks. Carrots are doing good. Cucumbers are starting to climb. Peppers aren't doing much, tomatoes are starting to grow bigger. It's my first time growing potatoes, Swiss chard, and broccoli. Dont have a lot of space so I can only grow small amounts. watermelon and cantaloupe finally popping through. Pole beans are growing slow. First time for them as well.
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    That is a healthy looking garden. Nice one!:dblthumb: Aphid ate my broccoli the two years I tried to grow it. They blend well on the tops. Keep an eye out for them.
    Cheers Jim
     
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    I'll keep an eye out Zunga. I have box of strawberries as well. They aren't producing very well. had a ton last year. Just a handful so far this year.
    Greg
     
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    I've noticed strawberries tend to go in cycles. Mine did squat for the first 2 years. Last year I got a few. This year they're going crazy. I don't know if it's that simple. Or if there are other factors at work.
    Cheers Jim
     
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    If you're growing them as a perennial, that's normal. The term we use in Agronomy and Pomology is "alternate bearing". Many perennial fruiting plants will bear less fruit every other year as a strategy to reduce pest pressure, and to conserve their resources.

    If you're replanting every year it could be a number of things. Nematode infestation is a common problem in strawberries if nutrient deficiencies or microbial diseases aren't present.
     
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    More update pics. We've had just about the ideal cycle of torrential rain and crazy hot sun. Spanish onions begining to flower. Snow peas over 6 ft. Swiss chard and sweet corn. Mint with sun flower on the other side and more corn. Finally third patch of corn with strawberries in the background.
    Cheers Jim
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    First basswood flowers. Harvesting for tea. They are tough to spot!

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    Flowers more than food... at least for now...

    Working on a new bed for melons... a bit late in the year to start, but we have a long growing season...

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    Need to check on my radishes and onions...
     
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    been over 3 weeks without rain fall..i been watering enough to keep everything alive..skys opened up yesterday finally.
    3 rows of kennebec taters

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    right to left-row of red pontiac taters,next row egyptian walking onions far end,potato onions then old burgundy lettuce .i am letting go to seed to have more in future.walking onions are putting on alot of tops and potato onions really multiplied/divided this year so expand them as well.tomatoes and peppers on left one cherokkee purple and rest a new one i am trying called better bush and various peppers mixed in.will be adding more as plants get ready and to extend harvest on into fall as far as i can.

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    various kinds of tomatoes on stakes as well as string and fence trellis...i like diverse styles...lol...mixed with peppers and cukes and far right fingerling potatoes and had a few kennebec seed taters left so i stuck them in instead of wasting them since i had them on had.

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    I have a small prairie. The coreopsis seeds in every year. I planted a few tomatoes in a new bed. I plan on strawberries there next year. The soil is poor. The lakefront is not a garden but I weed around the native blue flag.

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    For next year's strawberries. I highly recommend a strawberry tower of some kind. Mine is 2 5 gallon buckets. Bottoms cut off holes in the sides and stacked. Stuff full of dirt and put plants in the holes and exposed soil on top. There are far prettier ways to make them but mine works. You can control the growth, water, pests and nutrition. You get a lot of plants in a small footprint. Also bare in mind it can be a year or two from planting to berries. I thought I had defective plants for 2 years. Then they just went crazy. Today's harvest in the pic below!
    Cheers Jim
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    IMG_20180630_151635_436.jpg IMG_20180630_072116_790.jpg IMG_20180623_141100_767.jpg IMG_20180630_072918.jpg Seems like we’re beginning to get into the ‘established garden ‘ phase. Production is fairly stead with cukes and zukes we’ve dug the Yukon gold and are waiting another couple weeks for the reds. Sunflowers are blooming and we will be swamped in tomatoes soon. On the downside, the squash bugs are out and I don’t want to use sevin so we lost a a couple plants (despite neem oil and trying to hunt down eggs). Not too bad because honestly, I could live well without any more zukes for a while.

    #$&*(@)@! Asian beetles are out and hitting the old fruit trees. I’m going to get some traps. Hate those things. At least they don’t sting.
     
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    This is our first time with a garden at our new place. Just three simple beds. Banana peppers are coming along well. Romas and cherry tomatoes are right behind them. Zucchinis are coming along well and we just planted the second run cucumbers since the first run didn't make it.
     
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    Surprise! I was so focused on strawberries I forgot about the peas. The daily strawberry harvest is getting smaller. I haven't picked any yet today.
    The corn has me scratching my head. This is one of three patches. All of them have a few monster plants. Then a bunch of smaller ones all more or less the same size. They did this last year as well. Sun, water, soil and environment all the same. They all came out of the same seed package. They all got started the same way and at the same time. I'm going so save the seed from the big ones for next year. See what that does.
    Cheers Jim
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    Zunga,

    Interesting situation with the corn. Often seen over a large field where conditions vary significantly especially with less sophisticated planting techniques, but your size patch is a bit puzzling. Did last year's even out eventually?

    There is possibly a clue there with one end/side being consistently larger. Is there a similar pattern or another pattern to the other 2 corn patches or are they random? At the right temperatures, corn is only limited by light, soil depth and nutrients, competition, and water. While there's possibly a bit of variation from seed to seed, it is usually insignificant and the distribution would usually be random, not local.

    Hope these observations aren't off-putting, I'm actually interested in what is going on.
     
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    Now you mention it the left hand or north end of each patch. The garden is a long narrow strip. Looking at from the yard. First pic below is furthest left. It overall is the most consistent and biggest the next pic is the middle patch in a line north south again biggest on the left. The pic in the previous post is the far right patch.:33:
    Cheers Jim
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    Edit. Sorry forgot to answer your question regarding how they finished out last year. They all with the odd runt reached maturity and respectable height. The runts I chalked up to genetics and competition. My yield was about 30% a ideal crop. I thought having just one small group of 40 might be the cause. So I went to 3 times the plants. In 3 different but near by patches. The idea is more room for the wind to blow pollen around and make cobs.
     
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    This is a weird little squash. I got it hand me down as a seedling. I don't know what variety it is. I planted it right away. It did nothing for more than a month. As it got warmer it grew slowly. Size wise it's a fat seedling/teenager. I've never seen one flower this young. They're usually measured in feet before I see flowers. While i wasnt paying close attention. There was no flower yesterday. Thus morning there is. :33:
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    Updates from my garden.

    After all the spring rain my potatoes developed rust spots. I haven't pulled them yet but my peas never really took off and then the few I I ableto harvest tasted funny.

    My poor potatoes
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    Before maine trip pictures
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    Roughly 1week later after Maine trip.
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    And the best part
    Tonight for dinner we will have
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    And I am crying a tub full of sage from my mom's garden
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    In addition I filled the truck bed with comfrey plants. So i have those leaves drying and the roots have been planted. I also rescued spiderwort and have those planted as well.

    Food is great to grow medicine is amazing to grow.
     
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    What was the weather like at home during your Maine trip? Corn are water pigs. By appearance highly competitive too. They look to have faired ok comparatively. Was that a lack of water while you were away?
    Cheers Jim
     

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