A little kuksa.

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  1. NevadaBlue

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    Or, a wooden cup?

    I was running out of stuff to do, so I started another project. :rolleyes: Last night I was watching one of the Cimbrer Bushcraft youtube videos. Tom was showing some modifications to a sheath he has. It is very dry in Denmark and he couldn’t have a fire, so no coffee. :( But, he did have his whiskey anyway. :) He poured it into a tiny kuksa. I must have one, so I started one.

    Here is Tom’s cup:

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    I have some very well seasoned Live Oak from a friend in Louisiana, very heavy and dense stuff. It has a few shrink checks in it, but nothing to worry about. I will be filling the visible ones with super glue before continuing work.

    This is the block I chose and the rough markings before starting the cuts.

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    To be continued, the dog wants to play. That is more important...

    OK, that didn’t take long. FOOD was discussed and she disappeared. :D

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    Then the band saw, drill press and belt sander took over. I started chiseling the inside of the bowl too. This stuff is like chiseling rock. I want to finish the chisel work before thinning the walls. The plan is to thin the side walls to about a quarter inch before it is complete. I want to maintain the flat bottom so it will sit.

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    The grain is perfect, IMO.

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    I will drag my graving ball in to my work bench so I can use the vise on it to hold this for the chisel work.
     
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    Ah, a vintage shot glass. Looking forward to seeing it. joe
     
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    Ha! I like that. Gonna use it.
     
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    Watching this thread :dblthumb:
     
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    Make sure your hook knife is sharp. Oak is not going to be easy. I'm excited to see the finished piece.
    Cheers Jim
     
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    Drill Press, Band Saw????
    To quote my little brother. “You sheeted (cheated)!”
    Seriously though that live oak looks good. It’s got some nice grain variations. I’m like Zunga that stuff looks like it’ll be hard carving.
     
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    Without the power tools this couldn’t be done by me. This stuff is HARD. Chiseling out the edges of the bowl will be difficult enough.
    No cheating allowed. But, I wrote the rules. :p
     
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    Looking good Ken, nothing wrong with power tools. If ya got em, use em!
     
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    A die grinder wood rasp. That’d work wonders.
     
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    Without the power tools this wouldn't be done by me. :cool::4:
     
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    Looking good bud!
     
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    Nothing wrong with using what it takes to do the job. :)

    Way back in the day, when I started using an electric miter saw, my ex father in law said that was "cheating". I said it was "succeeding". :)
     
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    That has beautiful grain brother !
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    The little cup is losing weight. I brought it in and used my new spoon knife, my old one, a chisel and then took the thing back out to the saw and sander. Getting there.

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    The wall thickness needs to be about half what it is now. A few more trims around the handle too.
     
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    Holy! Your a beaver my friend. I wasn't expecting progress this far this fast. Nice one! :35:
    Cheers Jim
     
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    You've got some beautiful grain. It's going to be a real looker when you're done.
     
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    I gave up on hand carving mostly. The stuff is like iron. The sanding tools will finish the job now.
     
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    I like it! I might try one myself.
     
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    Nice looking mini kuksa.
     
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    For a hardwood mahogany or at least the variety I have moves well under a blade. Thrift stores sometimes have mahogany furniture you can repurpose.
    Cheers Jim
     
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    Looking good Mr. Ken!
     
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    Greetings,

    It looks amazing @NevadaBlue!

    Regards,

    Christos
     
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    Slowly, slowly...

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    Hey brother that looks great !
     
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    looks so good:dblthumb:
     
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    Doing a fine job young fellar. joe
     
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    Beautifully done, my man!
     
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    Thanks everyone! This is sure fun!
     
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    I dig it dude! :)
     
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    Looks awesome. Prov 27:17
     
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    Greetings,

    This cup is tiny in size but large in character!

    What oil did you use to coat it with?

    Regards,

    Christos
     
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    That's looking awesome!! I love the simplistic design and that grain is beautiful!!
     
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    Christos,
    Right now I am just using a coat of BLO on the wood after each sanding session. The can is on my work bench so I grabbed it. Quite a bit of sanding to do yet and the wood is so dense, it doesn’t soak in far. When I am finished with the wood work, I will use coconut oil I think, unless I find some walnut oil first.
     
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    Greetings,

    I did the same thing, the BLO coatings in-between progressively higher grate sanding for my knife handle. I think it is the right approach. I don't have much experience, just this one use like it, but I think it creates a smoother surface than otherwise.

    Regards,

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    That is looking fantastic @NevadaBlue !! Great work :dblthumb: I think I will give this a go as well. Quick question; is it safe to use BLO on cups, spoons, etc. ? I read somewhere than BLO will turn rancid, so I use pure mineral oil on my spoons. Thanks.
     
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    Isn't baked linseed non food safe? I thought I read there are additives to baked. I could be wrong. A lot acronyms and info to digest sometimes.
    Cheers Jim
     
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    Greetings,

    With my limited knowledge, this is my understanding:
    It is advised to not use it on eating utensils, but that's not to say it cannot be used to coat the outside of a cup. Plus I have found conflicting articles online. Generally speaking though, because BLO has chemical additives, I believe it should be avoided. That being said, a cup is different to a spoon, fork, etc. A cup has an outside and an inside surface. I think a combo of BLO outside followed by something else for the inner surfaces of the bowl will work.

    BLO cannot go rancid. Other oils, natural oils can do that.

    Again, IMHO. :)

    Regards,

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    Maybe rancid was not the correct term, but 'really bad for you', was the intention. Thanks.
     
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    Got it. Trust me to miss somthing as simple as inside and outside. LOL. I've been redoing spoons that have been oiled. I do find the blade moves easier in oiled wood over dry. Granted softwoods nothing like oak.
    Cheers Jim
     
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    Greetings,
    Yes, most evidence I have found online points towards the 'really bad for you'. :)

    Your question made me think about it and I can see a point for items that have inner and outer surfaces. The outer one could be coated in BLO which will provide more durable protection and the inside can be any other food safety oil with repeated applications on a need-to basis.

    Please feel free anyone to put me in my place if I am wrong in my thinking.:)

    Regards,

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    Now you've set me straight on the use. I don't think your wrong. Even on those redone spoons. The oil only goes so deep. Maple is much more porous than oak.
    Cheers Jim
     
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    I plan to use ‘food safe’ oil on the inside, and on the entire cup when it is finished. The real purpose of the oil now is so I can see the wood grain better while shaping it. This does not soak up much at all.
    Even if it is ‘really bad for you’, I am not worried about it. This won’t be my coffee cup or even used often probably. But, I WILL use ‘safe’ oil for finishing.
     
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    BLO does have chemical driers in it. As I understand it, it's not actually boiled as it use to be, hence the chemical metallic driers to help speed dry times. It's not a food safe product so not recommended for use on anything that will come in contact with food items, using it on the outside of a cup though is not like using it on the inside. I highly recommend 100% pure tung oil (not tung oil "finish") for a kuksa. Mineral oil is food safe however it will wash right back off (so you have to keep re-applying it) and it never dries so you will consume some of it.
     
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    So, this thing is nearly complete.

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    You can see some roughness remains. And, a hint of superglue in one spot. I will sand until I can’t feel any roughness anywhere. Fingers, even old abused ones are amazing tools. They can easily feel things that are difficult to see.

    Only coconut oil went on this time and from now on.

    I will finish rounding the top edge and more on the bottom edge. Then it will be ready to test.
     
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    Ya done well young fellar. joe
     
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    Looking so good. Now I have to find a large hunk of wood, you'rs is a mini, but I need a maxi for my coffee. Maybe a quart capacity. LOL
     
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    That turned out great Blue, nicely done indeed brother!
     

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