A new winter base camp tent

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  1. Moondog55

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    Sorry for your loss.

    Looks very nice. The floor had me confused though. In the pics it looks like the floor of the tent goes all the way through, but in other pictures you can see ground. Is it designed like that?
     
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    Sorry for your loss, but I think he wanted you to be happy, and if that makes you happy I'm sure he is pleased. joe
     
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    A multi part floor, the centre section can be folded back leaving a "hole" in the floor
     
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    Sorry to hear of his passing. My first inclination would be to say that the tent would be a great way to remember him. Whenever you used it, it would be like part of him was with you.

    And saving $800.00! Who wouldn't approve of that! :) Just what you are saving is more than I could imagine spending on a tent. :)
     
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    Thanx guys, Dad had a good life.
    My better half isn't yet quite sure I should buy it
     
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    All I have ever wanted for my 4 kids is for them to be happy living their lives the way THEY want.
    Im sure your old man, God rest his soul, was JUST THE SAME.
    Spend it and use it, and every time you do Itll give ya reason enough to think of your Dad and smile!!
     
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    Sorry to hear about the passing of your dad but I think you really should go for the tent and think of him every time your spadding it out when you go winter camping.

    Life is a box of memories so fill it up.
     
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    Moondog you've spent a lot of time and energy in finding a suitable winter set up. Does this set up fit most of your needs? If so I would use your inherited funds for such a set up. Sounds like you won't be spending ALL the inheritance on this, thus you can set aside some for other needs, wants, future.
     
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    While it doesn't tick all the boxes it does tick most, and you are correct; it won't be using all of the money Dad left me
     
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    Nice camp
     
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    Looks great! I'd say if it is what you want, go for it, I can't think of a better way to remember your Dad. You'll think of him every time you use it.
     
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    Probably won't be getting it.
    Hellesport say the fabric is only good for about 40 days of our intense UV radiation and it would cost over $200- to use Nikwax Solarproof on it, so that is $400- of maintenance cost alone in its first year and then $200- each year after that and Dad wouldn't approve of that and neither does my beloved wife
     
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    REI have their big sale on tomorrow
    I am going to order the big Basecamp 6 instead, I'm wondering if anybody has ever hacked the REI Kingdom garage to fit the Basecamp model tents?
     
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    Sh**t
    The Hellesport agent just emailed me and asked if I would be interested in the big tent at the clearance price of $1499-
    Now I really do not know which way to go, although my heart says get the one with the stove and be really comfortable
    Confusion reigns supreme
     
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    At $1500- I had to do it, especially as the stove that is included as part of the package is worth at least $400-
    Mind you I am still in a little shock but it is the same price as the Hilleberg I was also drooling over that can't be used with a stove
     
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    Unboxing has begun.
    The stove is very well made and very shiny. Won't be shiny for long tho
    It is however much bigger than I thought it was going to be, possibly a little too much stove for my tipi seeing as how it is big enough for the 14 person model, the wet gear will be dry that much faster won't it?
     

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    Nice tent, nice stove. Hope they work well for you. Be nice to get a full evaluation once you have a chance to use them.
     
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    It will take a full ski season but I will post a full and detailed user critique in October when the skiing is over. The seller/agent for these here says that it is important to keep the wood size to around 100mm diametre maximum and not to load up, Australian firewoods burn hotter than the larch and birch these are made for.
    These are unbaffled stoves, I am wondering if a baffle would help performance? The way the folded in stiffeners are placed means I could experiment without modifying the stove, the top "V" would seem to be in about the right place for a short horizontal plate baffle
     
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    I feel a little stupid. I asked the baffle question based on pictures and U-Tube videos and without fully unpacking my stove
    My stove is a slightly new design tweak and has a baffle welded in as part of the top stiffeners
    I am a little baffled by the way Helsport arrange the flue, it is such that the flue fits over the stove outlet and the sections run over each other rather than down into each lower section, so any creosote will not run into the firebox but down the outside and onto the hot top of the firebox.
    I may have to do something about that as I feel it is inherently dangerous
     
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    After the initial bun in I scrubbed the lower 4 flue sections with solvent cleaner and painted them black with high temperature stove paint and made a stack robber using steel plastering battens and large Stainless hose clamps; an idea I got over 40 years ago from The Mother Earth News, I still need to drill the entry holes in the bottom of the battens but I wanted to get the paint cured while the stove was still hot.
    This stove needs a different technique to use due to the small flue, start very small with very fine to medium kindling and feed little and relatively often
     

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    I know nothing about compressed sawdust firewoods, but locally good firewood is becoming very expensive to buy in small quantities [ i:e less than 12 to 16 tonne, a truck load] but there are now many businesses using sawmill waste to make fire logs and at a comparable cost to small deliveries of wood. Do the "Presto" type logs burn well? I would never contemplate buying them at retail but in 20*1 kilo bags they fit well on a pulk and are a reasonable cost when firewood is scarce naturally due to it being a popular site in summer.
    Do they really ; as I am informed by one maker; burn for 3 to 4 hours after lighting, depending on how wide the draft is opened?
     
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    I have never used the commercial fire logs, but a customer of mine would buy them for his fireplace. He said they lasted a long time and left very little ash.

    There are some videos online about making your own firelogs with newspaper too. :)
     
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    I've got one of those old firewood brick presses, never used it as I am usually far too busy during summer but perhaps I should drag it out and start soaking old paper
     
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    How much does the stove weigh with the chimney tubes in it?.Do you put it on a pulk ?
     
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    Heavy
    It is 18 kilos with the pipe and grate inside, it needs a wider sled than the Paris Expedition to use it properly but it is very hot, really too hot for the medium size tent, more suited to the bigger lavvu than the one I have bought.
    I have made up an extension for the pole so perhaps we can dig down into the snow this next trip
     
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    Wow near 40lbs that's a lot of stove:)it gets that cold in Australia in the mountains?Do you go above 4KM?
     
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    What it gets is WET
    We don't need stoves to get warm, we need them to dry out. Not needed for a weekend or even for a week; but I spend up to 11 weeks above the snowline skiing, I camp to save on accommodation costs so I can afford lift tickets. A mate just came back from a "General introduction to Mountaineering" on Denali, his comment was that a winter above the snowline in Australia was like summer on Denali, 5C to -8C; mixed rain and snow
     
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    Looks like you well have lots of fun in the winter now. Prov 27:17
     
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    Well after a month of deep wet snow I have decided to move this tent on.
    While it is superb in the wind and really well built it isn't really suitable for wet snow conditions such as our last several winters have had.
    But I will be keeping the big Helsport stove for our car camping trips. My beloved wife it telling me she worries too much about my personal safety on these winter camping trips and wants me to limit them to long week-ends or maximums of a week or two and I don't need a big tent for that
     
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    I have been trying to balance a tent for winter camping and for possible use during hunting season. It is so hard to figure out how a tent will work in the field for all the conditions. Good luck on the next gear adventure.
     

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