A sign of Armageddon?

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  1. EternalLove

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    Or maybe just bad taste.

    I have been seeing the advertisements here and there. This is something you will soon see as an option in your food at popular fast food restaurants. One day, it may be your only option.

    Thoughts? 20190619_193033.jpg 20190619_193311.jpg
     
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    That's been out for quite a while actually. A couple fast food chains in Canada have beyond meat products on their menu now. I like it but most people are on the fence.
     
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    Ought to be cheap for what it is...
     
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    I am in Canada now. I have not seen it in stores in the states so far. I have only seen one chain (Del Taco) advertise that it is coming soon.

    It may not be to late for us.
     
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    Little Ceasar's is advertising an "impossible pizza" - using "impossible burger" brand fake meat as a topping.
     
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    I'd try it, but likely impossible it would beat out the real thing.
     
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    it won't.
    as a food item, impossible burger isn't bad -- but real burger is better.
     
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    Would I try it? Of course! Does it sound as appealing as real meat? Not in the slightest.
     
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    But...but....it'll save the planet by reducing the need for cows, thus reducing cow flatulence which is causing global warming!!

    Personally, I think they should just give cows Beano. Wouldn't that solve the flatulence problem and let us continue to eat real meat at the same time?

    o_O
     
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    Right, impossible burger and beyond meat are competing products. I've done some research on the impossible burger product and how they make it is kinda interesting but I won't bother to go into details here. Let's just say it includes GMO.

    Obviously the non-meat eaters are a given market but they're also trying to appeal to meat eaters who need to reduce their meat diet for health reasons.

    Despite the curiosity, I've never tried it. I would, but every time there's been an opportunity I wanted to have real meat instead.
     
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    I won't knock almost anything until I try it (there are a few things I just won't try). I like a good beef burger but I've also had some non meat patties (black bean burgers for example) that have been pretty damn good.
     
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    SWMBO is a vegetarian and married me anyway.
    She actually can't stand the "beyond meat" product and says Impossible is tolerable.
    she also pointed out that the way these are created is worse for the environment - and the end recipient's nutrition - than just eating the real thing.
    she also supports hunting as a population control to maintain herd health and the use of leather in shoes, etc... since it's already a byproduct of the meat industry.
    (again - leather substitutes create more pollution than processing hides)
     
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    I’m glad it exists. That means more meat for real people.
     
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    I always tell people who ask that marrying a vegetarian means never having to share my bacon.
     
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    Hard pass. I'll eat nature over man-made every time.
     
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    But if she's a vegetarian, is she really the best one to compare the taste to real meat?
     
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    Its as close as a nonmeat "burger" can get to tasting like the real thing. Don't think turkey (which is okay if thats all you can have), don't think black bean or veggie.
    It looks redish and when you cook it it browns like red meat. Has a smokey flavor, meaty texture.

    My mom cooked me two, and some chicken. My sister came in and made a "burger" and started eating it and had no idea.

    Now let me be clear, if you are a red meat eater, or you like burgers like I do (see Everything Hamburger thread I started) its not a real burger. However...if you have the opportunity to try one sometime at home or restaurant I'd definitely encourage you to try it. Do it up just like a real burger and take a bite. You'll be surprised. Now we are talking about the "Beyond Burger". The "Impossible Burger" is very bland and I don't like it at all.

    Hopefully in the fall I'll be able to eat red meat again, until then, this is it.

    Try one!
     
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    I thought the same thing.

    I like meals without meat but this fake stuff has me shaking my head in disgust. I would prefer potato tacos or more eggs in my pad thai over a soy alternative.
     
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    I'd wager that I might be okay with the taste -- as far as burger patties go.
    But, there's no way that such a highly processed product like that is actually healthy to consume often/long-term.

    I do fear the day that actual meat is banned and considered uncivilized. Whilst I do think that big agriculture and the treatment of livestock is in major need of reform (conditions are so cramped that disease is rampant and livestock are constantly fed antibiotics just to keep them alive long enough, and being as they aren't free range, huge amounts of grain/fodder are required to feed them -- many, many times more than what you get back in actual meat), I'd rather just see us consume more sane amounts of healthily raised animals.

    I guess humans are just somehow compelled to take everything too far; from profits and efficiency to laws and regulations.
     
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    You mean assuming you have a choice. I'm no vegan or vegetarian I can assure you.

    Regardless its pretty good for no meat.
     
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    What the heck, I will try one while I am here.

    What is the worst that can happen, right?
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    Not bad. It tastes a little like...

    wait...

    Something is happening to me...

    Feeling...changes....
     
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    it's been so long since she last had meat that she doesn't try to make that comparison -- but based on her reactions, I suspect it's pretty close in texture.
    toss in the fact that it "bled" on her plate (beet juice), and she was totally grossed out.
     
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    :eek:OH MY GOD! ITS ALL MY FAULT! WAIT BUDDY, I'M COMING!
     
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    Actually if thats at a Fast Food place, its your own fault if you don't like it. :cool:
     
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    Hmm, not interested. Unless you are a vegan there is simply no reason.
     
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    Where are my balls? My balls! They packed up and left me! I knew this would happen if I ate soy!
     
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    Or red meat allergy. It tastes better than a chicken or turkey burger.
     
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    Or you have a doctor telling you to eat less red meat and you want to both have a burger and not die too quickly. Luckily I'm not there yet.
     
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    First, I don't believe in man made climate change. So ending beef production for that is foolish.
    Second, I believe dietary cholesterol (what you get by eating) doesn't substantially impact your ldl/hdl/ triglycerides. Your liver makes it as you require it.
    I believe things that disrupt the livers ability to regulate blood levels causes high cholesterol.
    Those are alcohol, added sugars, processed foods, and saturated fat.
    You must have fat in your diet. Healthy omega 3/6 and mono/Polly unsaturated fat as the large majority and saturated fat in very small limited amounts.
    I also believe genetics and activity level play a larger role than most people admit.
     
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    First, I don't believe in man made climate change. So ending beef production for that is foolish.
    Second, I believe dietary cholesterol (what you get by eating) doesn't substantially impact your ldl/hdl/ triglycerides. Your liver makes it as you require it.
    I believe things that disrupt the livers ability to regulate blood levels causes high cholesterol.
    Those are alcohol, added sugars, processed foods, and saturated fat.
    You must have fat in your diet. Healthy omega 3/6 and mono/Polly unsaturated fat as the large majority and saturated fat in very small limited amounts.
    I also believe genetics and activity level play a larger role than most people admit.
    So this stuff being processed is probable worse for you than lean ground beef.
     
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    I am creating a succulent blend of fresh greens (grass clippings), dietary fiber (shredded newspaper) and essential carbohydrates (molasses) to form non-meat food products. The good news is if it is not popular, I can feed it to the hogs. Which is what people do with it most of the time.
     
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    The Beyond Meat product isn't too bad but has alot more saturated fats that I care to eat in a vegetarian meal.

    Plus it's pretty expensive.
     
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    This planet has been dealing with animal farts for a lot longer than humans have been around to complain about them, it's still here, and so are we, global warning is a natural cyclic thing that's been fluctuating up and down ever since the big bang, but some people :29: are arrogant enough to think that man can change or control climate by simply living uncomfortably, eating plants, and killing off certain animal species, are they ever in for a surprise. :59:
     
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    Actually not, National Geographic published an article from the Academy of Science about the impending food crisis that's developing world wide, the article claims that the worlds population is growing at an alarming rate, especially in underdeveloped nations.
    At the same time food producing lands are being repurposed for housing and commercial use, with less agricultural land available for fruit and vegetable crops and animal farming coming under fire, and the oceans being over fished, food is about to become very scarce and very expensive.
    The article was quick to point out that people in some societies are going to have to change their attitudes about consuming certain foods that are delicacies and staples in some parts of the world and considered unappetizing in others, the future of food may be headed in the way of some molds, funguses, and other vegetation, and rely a great deal on non toxic bugs of all kinds.

    YUM, :32:
     
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    I've had the burger about 3 times, I think they taste pretty good. I bought them raw and grilled them up one time, you can definitely tell its not meat when its raw and can see the obvious coloring from the beet juice. I don't mind cleaning and butchering game but I get kind of gaggy when I deal with canned pet food and I kinda had a similar reaction to raw fake meat. I feel like the alternative meat is probably better for the environment but not necessarily a healthy choice for people, it still seems to have a lot of fat etc. in it. I'm enjoying the stock price right now too!
     
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    IMHO, not Armageddon...rampant intrusion of PC into our society. ;) Nothing against vegetarians or vegans and probably quite helpful when there is an acute beef shortage in a specific area. Also, a viable alternative for vegans and vegetarians to be able to dine with their burger eating buds! One of my sons would definitely take advantage of that.

    I'll stick to the advice of Sam Elliott...

    Regards,

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    They would only eat it if it was cooked on a seperate grill. Then they'd spend the whole meal telling you how many animals had to die for your burger and cheese, etc, etc
     
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    Luckily, I don't have to eat with folks like those; if they were ever in my life, they have been left far behind! Eating for me is one of the pleasures in life that I take quite seriously. Whine diners are discouraged at my tableo_O!!

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    I think I would try it once, then never eat it again. So I'm holding off trying it for now, to prolong the anticipation.
     
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    haven't tried it, but i wouldn't be opposed. i like plant based food more than meat for the most part as it is.

    not going to get on a soapbox, but if people ate meat only a few times each week (instead of 3 meals each day), we'd be in a lot better shape as a species right now.

    that said, i like plant based products that resemble plant based products. never been a big fan of plant-based trying to be meat.
     
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    So I guess I'm a dead man if this is the sole offering as I'm allergic to some of the listed ingredients.

    Time to establish some trampolines even if they are illegal.
     
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    Well, theres always real meat unless you're allergic to that too.

    Theres one girl that just got diagnosed with Alpha-gal (red meat/dairy allergy) like I have. She found out shes also gluten intolerant, allergic to mushrooms, rice, peanuts, and soy. I'm thinking...whats left?
     
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    Why o why do people, who do not want to eat meat, eat meat-look-a-likes?
    And why does anyone think that THAT list of ingredients is either good for human OR environment?

    Personally I like to eat "recycled vegans".... as in cows or chickens
     
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    Gotta love that autocorrect. I typed traplines.

    That's what the trampolines, er, traplines are for. Seems to me we're being prepared to accept this meatless imposter as the only protein available for consumption.
     
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    you think that's bad? you should see the shit they put in the store-bought meat these days.

     
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