Advice Needed For Unusual Circumstances Staying Dry and Warm

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  1. T. Pollock

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    That's really neat, thanks for the links Joe!
     
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    i know where i WOULD'NT want that probe to go ... :)
     
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    LOL Soon as I posted that I said to myself
    UhOh .
     
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    :eek: I had the same thought. :4:
     
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    I would be cautious about any heated/electric bit of apparel. An average person would notice if a wire was broke or shorted or if the thermostat failed and the heat didn't kick off. Even so, neurologically typical folks have been burned badly by electric blankets. If you were unconscious during a narcoleptic episode presumably being burned still wouldn't wake you; if so the results could be very bad. Best of luck to you, hopefully you'll get a good system worked out. And with luck maybe you'll find a bushbuddy or two to camp with!
     
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    Excellent point, thank you!
    At first the electronic route seemed a very interesting prospect. The more I thought about it though it felt like that would be taking the very soul out of bushcrafting. I'm not sure what the answer is for my situation or if there even is one but I'll keep searching.

    I have some things planned to try at this meet that will hopefully at least make it somewhat less risky.
     
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    @T. Pollock
    I did not read every post so forgive me if this has been mentioned.
    Have you ever tried vapor barriers?
    Robert S. Wood talks about them in his book the 2 oz backpacker.
    Even when cold, the body tries to keep your skin moist.
    That can mean that even if cold, the body may still sweat to try to maintain skin moisture.
    If this wets your insulating layers it can cause you to be cold.
    Winter this can be a big problem, as the air is very dry and the body will sweat to counteract this.
    The vapor barrier maintains the moisture next to your skin but keeps it from soaking your clothes.
    May or may not work but may be worth a try.
    Good luck
     
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    Thanks bud! I don't think anyone has mentioned a vapor barrier but I'll sure look into it. Is this a clothing system, like a one piece suit?

    When I was a kid we sometimes wore bread bags over our socks while playing out in the snow.
     
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    yup
     
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    I did some research but have to be honest, I didn't really understand all of it. The ole' noodle doesn't work like it use to before I fried it with electricity. :dblthumb:
     
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    The same thought occurred to me . You might still consider the temp sensor tho .
    We used to rig similar thermostats to warn neighbors if a house got too cold when the owners were in Florida .( we’d just turn on a lamp
    In the window )
    You could use two ,one for over heat one for under heat .
    Take some trial and error on your part to
    see where your limits were and where to insert ,
    Oops ,I mean place the probes .
    No doubt in this day and age you could alert someone’s smart phone even .
     
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    Modern technology is amazing that's for sure!
    Yeah I do like the idea of a low temp alarm. I've actually got a device I might be able to make work for that purpose.
    Probe placement still has me worried though. :dblthumb:
    I appreciate the help and advice Joe!
     
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    Have your Dr's checked your thyroid? it can cause some of the symptoms you describe. it should show up in a blood test. I didn't have circulation issues, but always sweat easy and steam in the cold. After being diagnosed for thyroid issues, my fingers and toes get colder then they used too.
    for clothing, you should try wearing a cotton longsleeve under a wool layer if you cant tolerate the synthetic wicking under armor type shirts. if you can get polypro long underwear sets, they are amazing at wicking moisture away from your body, even if you get dunked in water. You can also use silk layers, they cost more, but they are great. You may have to consider a complete change of clothing after exertion rather then just adding layers so keep up the fire and shelter prep.
     
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    I would think they have but I'm not 100% sure. I've had so many kinds of tests done it's crazy. :3: It's still possible however that they didn't do that one.

    I do wear wicking layers but not UA brand, that has helped considerably. I haven't tried polypro however.
    I always put on a fresh set of clothes before climbing into my sleeping bag to make sure I'm dry.
     
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