What happened? A few years ago when I got into backpacking it was possible to pick up an ALICE pack and frame for about $40, sometimes less. I have a large ALICE I use for cold weather camping. I've never owned a medium. This evening I started looking for a medium to use as a hunting daypack. They're hard to find and prices are double or triple what they used to be. Have sources for ALICE packs dried up? Edited: Does anyone have experience with the non-surplus ALICE knock-offs or alternate packs that fit ALICE frames? I'm in love with he frame with Molle straps, I can take or leave the ALICE pack itself. I'd be willing to try alternate packs that will be a good fit for the frame.