Looking for a new pack, thought I would go to the surplus store and check out the old ALICE pack. They had a modern one, civilian knock off. $24 and there was a plastic frame available. I lost interest quickly. They had two actual surplus packs. New. $58 for the medium radio operator pack with frame, $64 for the medium standard pack with frame. Both in woodland camo. They do not look the same as the pack I was issued in the 70's. Dont know what it is, just different. Maybe because my issue pack was just green? Should I purchase one of these? Seems like a good price. I do like them a bit better than the packs i have been looking at.