Alone Season 6 - The Arctic

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    The shelter issue some have raised is valid but I believe a bit over-rated. Every contestant already has "shelter" in terms of good winter clothing and a good sleeping bag / tarp. A quick shelter that uses minimum calories on the first day is probably wise. Then scout / hunt / fish until you know the area better. Picking a good shelter location could make a big difference, especially if a lot of calories were not already invested in making the original shelter.
     
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    i am thinking a pulaski axe would be the axe to have this season. use the backside to chop holes in the ice for water and ice fishing holes.
     
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    Would an ice fishing spud bar count as an axe? I've cut a few holes with hatchets and axes, many more with spud bars later. Ain't no fun cutting a hole in the ice with a short/medium handle.
     
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    1st episode of this new season...a contestant is wearing an ear flap hat and he flips the flaps up to hear better. A moose comes through on the night vision cam. I wanna know who makes that hat

    Anyone?
     
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    Well, I don't know who makes the hat but this reminds me, the moose shown on the night camera was a similar size as the one show being skinned, or similar, I'm now wondering if this was the fellow that got the moose? If I got up the next morning to see a moose on my game cam I think I would be on the look out for it.
     
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    The Lake Trout in the gill net was very nice sized....20lb mono is likely a very wise choice. Alone Gear site specified barb-less hooks- Carly(?) Hook in the hand lady was tough as nails but that barbed hook took her out IIRC.

    I like that the one lady took the MSR stainless pot with the locking lid.
    If the lake trout are that large and that close to shore- more set lines before the hard water sets in would be wise.Editing does seem to be far better along with the skill sets of the majority of those chosen to go.

    SERE guy video said he took three rolls of snare wire- aluminum, copper and steel if I heard that right. If there are northern pike to be caught the snare wire might function well as a toothy critter fishing leader.

    Also- it would be cool to see someone fashion a spoon from a found piece of metal or carve a plug from wood to do some active fishing.
     
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    Not Carleigh. From the Northwest Territories Sport Fishing Regulations Guide, April 1, 2018 – March 31, 2019, page 3: "Only barbless hooks are permitted for angling in the Northwest Territories."

    https://www.enr.gov.nt.ca/sites/enr/files/resources/nwt_sport_fishing_guide_2018_2019_english.pdf
     
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    Yes, it was sad to see her go out that way.
     
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    Curious. Elkhounds last two posts come up as blank to me. What is everyone else seeing?
     
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    @Jameson they have video links, but they take a long time to load (at least for me). They come up blank at first.
     
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    They come up fast for me. I'm logged into Facebook. Are you?
     
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    Facebook links, no facebook here, but the link shows.
     
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    no facebook for me. no links showing. most videos load fast. Those posts ( and others) are just blank to me.

    oh well.
     
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    I'm wondering again.... Brady Nicholls is an active duty SERE specialist in the USAF. I'm wondering if he accumulated enough leave time to cover boot camp and however long he makes it on the show or if the Air Force thought it good PR to have one of "theirs" do well on the show and somehow granted him the time off. Any ideas?
    (or was this mentioned and I missed it?)
     
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    The latter, I'm sure. The military is pretty good about this kind of thing for certain MOSs/specialities, whether it be comeptition shooter, Olympic athlete, or something else. They can authorize it as special TDY.
     
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    Heck, they're even pretty good about letting the graduates of the military academies who get drafted to join the NFL instead of doing military stuff. I'm sure a show about how "tough and bada**" their guys are would be an easy sell for extended leave, since he's still serving, even if just in a PR sense.
     
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    First episode was a good one. Season 6 should be good. The environment they are in, is absolutely amazing. The Arctic is region is just plain stunning and captivating.
    And the participants seem well prepared.
    I too, would not chose the go with no firesteel. I know of several self-proclaimmed bow-drill experts, who has come up short when it really came down to it.
    One factor could be, that the trees up there grow much slower, hence producing thinner growth rings, making otherwise soft types of wood, harder.
    I know that birch is relatively soft here in Denmark, but 1800 kilometres north, in Arctic Sweden, birch is a lot more dense.
     
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    This is truly painful to watch.
    Cut a 3/4” stick with a 3 foot saw, then start cutting a stick with your hand next to the blade.

    Catch one fish, stop fishing and show that you have no idea how to clean a fish... instead of continuing to fish.

    Half roast a muskrat and get sick. Why not stew it...

    Make a floating trot line with barbless hooks?
     
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    That is one big bobber. yeah with barbless hooks even. How about a barrel stove. Muck boots would be my last choice of boots in that environment, Do they get a few different boots to take or just what they have on their feet? I hope the skinny guy takes it this season. Enough of the waiting around burning body resources.
     
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    Barrel stove was my first thought, too. I do wonder if it was water in the barrel. They get one pair of high hunting boots and one pair of arctic boots (bunny boots, I assume).

    Donny had a great shelter, and a nice throwing stick. Too bad about the muskrat. Ray's fish was also infected with parasitic worms. Looks like everything from the lake would be.
     
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    so did Donny have to tap out?
     
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    You didn't get to watch it yet? Sorry about that, but yes, Donny tapped.
     
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    Donny tapped, but I believe he was really afraid of the old heart issue more than the gut issue. Too bad.

    Yes, a nice barrel stove would have been good.

    Guess we will see...

    Two episodes, about a week and two gone.
     
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    Tapping out quick! In stead of spending all that energy sawing log into little pieces, why not just start burning from one end. push in as needed. Most no food after 7 days????
     
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    I thought that too, but his main fire seemed to be inside his shelter.

    What’s with the Samurai saws? Just a fad? For something like this? I also noticed the tendency to PUSH the saw. Not with that long floppy blade...
     
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    Silky Katana perhaps...I have a Big Boy and one of their smaller saws- they work great and you are correct- Pull cut only unless you want to snap the blade like that one contestant did Season 2- Desmond White perhaps?
    He talked a lot of smack in the intro and trailers and after the drop off he got spooked real fast and tapped.
    Used to have a still pick of him with the snapped saw blade in his hand.
    "You know I aint gonna tap out, that's forsure. Bear gonna have to grab me. And then if the bear grab me, if somebody see the bear fighting me, they need to help the bear"
    Desmond, only on the Island for less than one full day decided it was time to tap out after coming across bear scat (bear feces). Desmond goes on to say "At this point right now, all I want to do is go back home".


     
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    Did anyone notice that when Donny was getting his stuff out of the shelter, he said, "I cheated a lot..."? Had he brought rations and eaten them first or something, not that that's a bad idea?
     
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    I think SERE guy might have been the only one with 2 ration components as part of his 10 item list.
     
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    Silky saws are great. They are pull saws, and you will break the blade if you try to cut on the push. I have a Katanaboy 650 and I will never go back to a bow saw. It cuts ten times as fast as my old bow saw, and I am not exaggerating. I can fell an 8"-10" tree in just a few minutes, and have done so many times. Almost as fast as my chainsaw, but without the noise, gas and oil, and smell.
     
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    he said..i achieved a lot out here
     
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    I agree, Silky saw is the way to go. I was just questioning the need for the huge saw, which is unwieldy for this kind of outing, IMO. It doesn’t matter about the size for carrying, since they are dropped off and don’t have to hike. It just looks like a problem waiting to happen for the kind of things they will be doing. For example, Nikki cutting the little stick with a huge saw. She had to stop and break it off.

    It looks like her hand is healing OK. I hope it works out and she keeps the hand away from the blade. AND, finds food.
     
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    If I was going, I would hold off on food until after I got my shelter built. Save rations for much later. Wait for ketosis so the body is using fat reserves. You can starve with a lot of fat reserves if you don't manage your nutrition well. Seems to me it is better to start the body burning fat while you still have a lot of water soluble vitamins in your system. Spruce needle teas will replace vitamin C and some of the B vitamins, but not all of the B vitamins. B12 is only available in meat and yeast, and others will only be available in small quantities.
     
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    of all these shows based on wilds i see one thing all of them need to improve on.....cooking skills. they cook for crap over a fire.
     
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    Sometimes its just a matter of picking the right tool for the job. She could have trimmed that stick in a few seconds with an ax, but everyone, me included tend to use what they have in their hand at the time. Hope she heals well.

    I want to know who burned down their shelter?
     
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    I like that Mick. The shelter shouldn’t take more than a couple of days. The food issue is critical though, time wise. Finding and storing food for the COLD and snow that are coming should be a priority, IMO. Fishing under the ice won’t be easy. That is a big lake and will take a while to freeze deep enough to be safe to go out on. Hunting looks like a game of chance, with luck being the answer.

    Hope someone (lol, at least two) last for a while.
     
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    Yep, at least a third of the muskrat was wasted. Stewing that critter would have cooked any parasites too. Same with the fish. Boiling the food gives a chance to get more out of it.
     
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    Sadly, that is my biggest weakness, too. My wife cooks our meals at home. I can roast a hotdog or marshmallow over a fire, but I've never really tried much else. One year when I lived in Oklahoma there was an ice storm at Christmas, power went out, and my ex and I built a fire to cook chicken. Wrapped it in foil and stuck it in the coals. And cremated it. It was dust.
     
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    did yall notice when michelle was showing her socked foot steaming you could see the side ripped out of her trousers?

    when she was floating that barrel they were fine...must be messing with timeline to get the story they want to tell??

    one of my fish hooks would be a circle needle to sew repairs with out there.
     
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    My thought process.
    Fire, shelter, food!
     
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    Yup. You could catch fish and preserve them early on. Once I had the fire and water, I would work on the shelter and then go fishing to rest. Storing the food would be a problem. I wonder if Jordan Jonas did get a moose, what did he do with it? Build a smokehouse? Dig a freezer? I would think it would attract every predator within ten miles. Its also nice to think about having a bear skin or moose skin rug in your shelter, but a ghost moose can have 50,000-75,000 ticks. How many ticks does a normal moose have that far north? How do you get rid of them under primitive conditions? Brain tanning and smoking the hide won't kill ticks, but it might encourage them to take up residence elsewhere.
     
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    I hope that will show up in the after show. There was a lot of goodness left-over when he finished eating and it didn't look like cooked the first bits enough. I saw red meat and I think I'd avoid that. Would it matter? Can you cook those things enough? I'd be going for very well done if I was roasting but stewing seems the more efficient option.
     
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    NevadaBlue (above) had the exact reaction that we did whilst watching ep2:

    Cutting a stick with your hand next to the blade? no no no!

    Catch one fish, & then stop fishing?!... why? why are you stopping?!

    Half roast a muskrat and get sick?.... Remove innards & musk gland - then stew it !

    Make a trot line with barbless hooks? … Not likely to work

    Sadly, all that makes the H channel intro re: 'survival experts' look like fiction :(

    And btw, there's a good video on youtube comparing how a 1-man crosscut saw does versus a Katanaboy - the crosscut was faster on big logs, the Katanaboy faster on 6'' or less
     
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    Muskrats can carry Giardia, Tularemia and Leptospirosis.

    Sorry to see Donny taken out by a rodent.

    Maybe Larry's mouse obsession wasn't crazy after all.
     

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