Alpha - a movie set 20,000 years ago

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  1. DKR

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    Since the J Johnson movie is enjoying some comments, thought this movie might also be of interest.

    One of the trailers, if you haven't seen it
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    I doubt it is anywhere near accurate, but folks who enjoy a good yarn - and can ignore the usual Hollywood....stuff... might still enjoy what is - at it's heart, a dog movie.

    You may or may not enjoy the depiction of stone age people (surprisingly clean stone age people at that) and their day to day life. The depiction of flint knapping, for example, shows a lack of understanding of the craft...

    Thought I would post this in case you may have missed the trailer/announcement. If nothing else, you can pick up a copy from the bargain DVD bin soon enough for watching on a cold winter's night...
     
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    It will be entertaining as long as people accept it as Hollywood's version.....I also noticed their beautiful teeth and fingernails......worth a buck at the DVD robot at least ! Cool
     
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    I'm looking forward to it.
     
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    I hadn't heard of this one. Could be interesting.
    On a similar note, anyone seen "Quest for Fire"? Not a great movie, but there's one scene that sticks in my memory because it's so hillariously relevant to us. In the film, the Neanderthals were dependant on fire, but had not yet developed the skills to start it themselves, so they had to search out lightning strikes, or raid cromagnon camps and bring fire back with them. Early in the film, a victorious group is coming back to the camp with a smoldering basket of punkwood. The tribe is rejoicing, right up until one idiot grabs the bundle and starts dancing around in glee. He immediately drops it in the water.
    It's good to know "that guy" has existed since the dawn of man. Every tribe's got one.
    Back in Scouts, ours was named "Phil".
     
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    I'll try, but you even stopped me watching the trailer telling me about the dodgy flint knapping, they might as well be running around wearing nike and digital watches :D
     
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    Looks "interesting". Probably worth a viewing for no other reason than I am currently re-reading "Clan of the Cave Bear" (for the millionth time). The trailer makes it looks like a boy trains a wolf to be a dog and they survive together. I wonder if it was their "great-many-times-over" grandsons that were depicted in "A Boy and his Dog". :16:
     
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    I like wolves so I will go see it. In my younger days I have raised one from a pup, (not a good pet at all). I am sure that many things will be pointed out as being incorrect, but I am not trying to learn from this movie just entertain myself.
     
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    I'll go see it. Couldn't be any worse than The Revenant. :)

    Fingernails! LOL!!!

    If you look up BRKT Gunny knives on Knivesshipfree.com and look at the woman's hand holding the red scaled Gunny, she has dirtier fingernails than these cavemen!
     
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    Id go see it - for entertainment value. I never expect movies to be accurate. I just like going to the theatre, the fountain drinks taste better there for some reason haha
     
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    For entertainment purposes only.
     
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    I would watch it. I like a good survival against the odds movie. It looks cheesy, but sometimes they become cult classics.
     
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    I saw this movie. PAINFULL.
    There was no historical accuracy (as far as I know. I don't have first hand knowledge from the time period :D) nothing made any sense from a bushcrafting point of view.
    The story was slow at best. I was bored 10 minutes in. I would not see it again. I'm interested to see what others think.
     
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    20,000 years ago they were more likely to be egalitarian, without leaders. Maybe if it comes out on netflix. I really want to see the Ice Man movie even with subtitles.
     
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    20,000 years ago they were more likely to be egalitarian, without leaders. Maybe if it comes out on netflix. I really want to see the Ice Man movie even with subtitles.
     
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    Got to see ALPHA today, here's my take on it:

    Good boy/dog prehistoric survival action movie, excellent cinematography, costumes seemed appropriate, subtitles that a monkey could figure out, some flint knapping and fire building, tribal clan teamwork, honor your ancestors, buffalo jump, love for family.

    Good G-rated movie to take young teens to see and not worry about nudity, foul language, etc.; they show blood and hunting wild animals.

    Don't think it will win any Academy Awards but I'm glad I went to see it.

    I also liked the movie because it was $5 Tuesday and I got a senior discount on popcorn and soda.
     
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    I've been wanting to see it but it doesn't look worthy enough to pay theater prices. I'll wait for it to come out on DVD. Shouldn't be too long...

    Jon.
     
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    Watched this last night and have to say it’s a good movie and that I enjoyed it. Sure, some of the aspects of things are off. They kind of show pressure flaking and fire drill but if you don’t get your head wrapped about the details you can enjoy a nice wholesome movie about a boy and his dog. I think it’s worth your time. Slow? Only in the way properly made movies naturally ebb and flow. It’s certainly a much a appreciated break from endless exploding car chases and people shreaking gibberish at each other. There is time to tell a story and that’s a rare thing in movies these days.
     
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    Truth be, a fella sees what he wants to see, in movies, books, or real life; I saw it as a good shot at how it might have been. The most telling scene, for me at least, was at the end, when men and wolves were hunting together. Two of nature’s most cunning and tenacious hunters, working as a team,,, a real game changer for man’s chances of survival. From there on humans would have canines for work, for protection, early warning devices, for hunting, and for companionship,,,
     
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    I'll wait for it to hit HBO STARZ or Showtime
     
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    Finally watched it the other night. Not bad but basically the typical boy and his dog movie...

    Jon.
     
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    Grat flick of man and dog (wolf hybrid)
    Lot of weak survival stuff ...technically poorly done
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    Great photography, special effects and a super relationship of man and canine.
     
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    Great take on it @Haggis! A little late on this thread but I just watched Alpha and really enjoyed it. For another take on the domestication of the first wolf read The Dog Master: A Novel of the First Dog by W. Bruce Cameron (he's best known for A Dogs Purpose). I waited to watch Alpha until I finished that book. I feel the novel is a more plausible take on how the first wolf would have been domesticated but I enjoyed both.
     
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    I finally broke down and viewed it on Amazon. It was as I suspected, the clothing had to be off period, their boots were mass produced and had tread on the soles, the kid was brought up in that world and couldn't bring himself to finish off the hog, very PC, the older folk didn't teach him how to do the hand drill until he was of age enough knock our a Solutrean point good enough to go on a hunt he must have not been paying attention in his younger years, this running animals off cliff is still a curiosity and the way they did it oh my, and the whole process of taming the K-9 with a one go like this, it just leaves me shaking my head. When, when will they come out with a decent 10,000 year old movie that is period and realistic, I think the last one was Quest for Fire. The version of the Ice Man done in France? and it doesn't even show up here in the stated with subtitles, why are we deprived of such content? I would't recommend it even for young kids as it teaches untruths, be prepared to untie the lies it teaches your kids.
     
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    Quest for Fire was very well researched using what documentation was available at the time. They went so far as to develop primitive languages just for the film. I still enjoy it.

    I just watched my DVD copy again. The first time I watched it (around 1981, when it first came out) I also assumed that the main characters were Neanderthals. In the special features on the DVD they reveal that the main characters are homo sapiens. The much less developed, simpler "primate" like tribe that attacked them early in the movie were considered the Neanderthals.

    Its amazing how much we learn about our ancestors in such a relatively short period of time. Now its widely believed that Neanderthals may have been better suited to survival and possibly more intelligent than us. Their undoing may have been the simple fact that they weren't as widespread as we were.

    I remember being impressed with the mammoths when it came out. Now they look ridiculous. Similar to the movie Baby: Secret of the Lost Legend that came out in 1985. At the time the special effects were amazing. Not so much now. :dblthumb:
     
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    That's very interesting. I was a bit young for it when it was first released, seeing it first on cable some time in the early '90s. I've seen it once or twice since then, but it's been at least 15 years since my last viewing. Now I'm curious to see it again.
     
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    Man, I haven't seen Quest for Fire in decades! I wonder if it's on Netflix or Hulu...

    Jon.
     
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    Looks like Quest for Fire is on YouTube.



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    That great. I checked both Amazon and Netflix both don't include Quest for Fire on the payment program I have with them, I get all the most stupid movies on my pay program, I thing is says something for Q for F. I will watch it tonight for the third time.
     

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