Anyone using Atlai Hoks?

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  1. stevep

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    i have a pair coming from bean but was wondering what to expect when they hit the snow. thanks
     
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    I have never used them.
    But please let us know what you think when you do.
    I'm all curious about them.

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    Haven`t used the Altai Hoks, but I have a pair of russian hunting skiis.
    Very specialized Equipment. Good in loose snow and fairly flat terrain.
    Not so good in slopes, unless going straight Down.
    I tend to use ordinary cross country skiis, as they (IMO) Works best, 90 percent of the time, in my part of the Woods.
    Bought mostly in a moment of "gear mania".

    The skiis are on the right.
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    I've got two pairs- 125 and 145 (couldn't pass up a very sweet deal on a lightly used pair!); works out well when my wife goes- when she doesn't I choose based on snow conditions

    I have the universal bindings so you can wear any boot; if you happen to be an avid skier I think a three pin backcountry binding w/ the ability to lock your heel would be a better choice- I'm not much of skier so no worries there :)

    The incorporated skin lets these skis really climb; if it's extremely steep/icy snowshoes with aggressive crampons would be a much better choice

    I've found the skis to be just a little quicker than snowshoes heading up a drainage; heading back out they are much quicker than snowshoes

    I ended getting a tiak last year- it's a traditional, tall wooden pole- in lieu of two poles- I've found it helps me turn easier on down hills used like a rudder, I can also slow myself better by augering it in

    These haven't replaced snowshoes for me, but they are chosen often when I don't have any extreme terrain to cover

    I did have a pair of traditional backcountry x-country skis that I did end up selling- I find the Hoks much more to my liking
     
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    I have a pair of 145s. They climb good. Used them skijorging with the dogs. The hardest problem is I am not use to the width and the looseness of the boots. I have skied downhill and back country for 52 years. It is just different with the universal binding. I kee; learking. They remind me of the old bearpaws from the 70s.

    cheers
     
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    Did you try a search here? There was a good bit of talk about them last year I think. I know a number of members bought them and seemed to like them, but impressions beyond that are probably around here.
     
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    They won't replace snowshoes for me but they are a great tool in the toolbox.

    They fit quite handily and out of sight in the back of my little jeep for emergencies.

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    thanks for all the info.
     
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    I don't know how expensive they are but still seems to me you could make a pair out of old water skis .
     
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    I have a pair. Used them a couple of times but still not sure if I like it. I am not a downhill person (never really ski before) and I don't think this could replace my snowshoes.

    I plan to use them again some times this winter and see if I sold or trade them for a standards backcountry skis.

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    Funny, in the states we have a history of snowshoes (dating from the first explorers meeting the Native Americans), whereas in Eastern and Norther Europe they historically use a wide ski not a snowshoe. After watching "Happy People, a year in the Taiga" I was enthralled with the ski-shoes! I love X country skiing and really dislike snowshoeing, but there are times when shoes are the only option. I picked up a pair oh Altai Hok's last year and I really love them! I can climb much steeper grades than with X-C but still have some kick & glide on the flats. They are actually better going downhill, as the integral skins slow them down to a manageable speed, plus the short length lets you turn relatively easily. Love your Russian skis (we can't get the mere!)
     
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    I picked up a pair of the 145s last year from LL Bean when they were on sale. For what it's worth, I really like them. As has already been said, they kind of fit in the land between snowshoes and xc skis. If the woods aren't too thick I prefer them to my snowshoes as they're much quicker on the downhills and the attached skins make climbing almost effortless. If I'm sticking to trails I'll still go with my xc skis but when it's a mixed environment, I think the Hoks are a wonderful alternative. Mine came with the universal binding. It did take a bit to get used to them since the plate underfoot is a little too stiff to my way of thinking but I'm more used to just having my toes attached to a ski binding with nothing underfoot. When I use my mukluks it just feels weird having a solid piece underneath but I've gotten used to it.

    That's all for now. Take care and until next time....be well.

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    if anyone is looking- LL Bean has a 25% off sale going on anything over $100- including the Hok's, you won't find them any cheaper
     
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    these skis aren't skinny or long, so you should be GTG :4:
     
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    appears LL Bean no longer carries Altai- shame :(
     
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    got in a nice trip with my wife last weekend, skiing into a US Forest Service cabin

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    Got in a little squirrel hunting this week ............wait that might have been a dream .
     
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    ^ I wasn’t aware they had squirrels in the Arctic :4:
     
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    All white ,you have to look for the black nose .

    Do you remember Ayno BCUSA member ? He spent many weeks on his fat skis .
     
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    I do.

    I think they are a great substitute for snowshoes in all but the most rugged (steep/rocky) conditions- more floatation, quicker and a more fun to boot :)
     
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    Great to see the Hoks in action. Still on my list. Is that a Mountainsmith pack?
     
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    it’s a very old (but still excellent condition) Dana Design lumbar pack (the Gallatin); I added Mountainsmith strappettes to it after pulling the pulk with just the waist strap- world of difference! I’m convinced that shoulder straps are mandatory for pulling.
     
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    I finally made up my mind that I was going to buy a pair of these a few weeks ago.

    Of course, out of stock everywhere................
     
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    it’s too bad that LL Bean quit carrying them as they frequently have a 25% off sale- that’s how I got my first pair (second I lucked out on a private sale)
     
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    I have friends in Europe that love Hok skis. I was going to get a pair for a recent backcountry trip in Baxter State Park and that’s when I learned that Beans no longer had them in stock.
     
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    I had an old Dana Designs Jefferson lumbar pack. It had some sort of internal frame that helped but I just found that a regular pack was more to my liking.
     
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