Discussion in 'Edged Tools' started by IA Woodsman, Mar 9, 2009.
Picked this beauty up, pretty excited!
I was watching that one for awhile...Nice score. I'll bet she will clean up very nicely!
It was my b-day so I pulled the trigger, I have always admired the registered axes (even more than the black ravens). Lots of life left in this one.
I have one. So I was just watching it. I think you got it for a fair price, considering what they have been going for these days.
Here's mine. It still has a tiny bit of the gold paint in it. I'm a Kelly nut. Yours should clean up very nicely with a steel brushing.
Yours is in great shape, is that the original handle? I don't have too many Kellys but I actually just picked up another kelly CT pattern the other day as well. Been on a CT kick lately I guess...
It is the original handle on it. I really like Kellys and the Connecticut pattern is one of my favorites.
I just picked up a Kelly Red Warrior Connecticut. I haven't finished cleaning her up yet. It needs a good work over with a course twisted steel brush on an angle grinder to get it looking sweet. That is what I used on my registered Kelly to clean her up. I should say that is what I use on any rusted axe head. It does leave a nice natural looking patina on an axe head.
One of these days I'll get all of the cts together for a photo, your collection is impressive. I am working on a really pitted one for my BIL now with the original handle, I think its a collins but too beat up to tell.
The angle grinder really is the best tool for cleaning up old steel, I can't believe I did it by hand for as long as I did...
I had three more CTs, Collins. But two of them went to friends.....one went to Larry, Bax 40 and one to Wayne, KA-BAR USMC. They are southern boys and a CT pattern is hard to come by in the south.
Picked this up today for twenty.
With a new handle it will get plenty of use.
got a couple of those to do Hook. they take a little more work it seems. I use one to dig down on the trunk for fated since it is better down lower on those old stumps.
yabba dabba WOW !! thats nice
OMG you lucky dog!!!!!!!!
Happy holidays to you!!
A man could have much worse vices. A Kelly kick is a great habit as far as I am concerned......
Great stuff J.
Some have already seen this, but for those who haven't here is some holiday cheer.
Torn between polishing them up a bit more, hang them with maybe some stain. . OR . . attempt to color in the stamps, Blue, Green and Red. Not sure how well it would go. .
Turned the bottom handle into the top handle and hung a recently acquired Craftsman on it instead.
heartwoodhandle_beforeafter by city_ofthe_south, on Flickr
This is a vintage handle I use to shape.
heartwoodhandle_finished by city_ofthe_south, on Flickr
craftsman_finished by city_ofthe_south, on Flickr
This axe has been seen before on a different handle but couple days ago switched it up.
19inch_keenkutter by city_ofthe_south, on Flickr
19inch_keenkutter_gransfors by city_ofthe_south, on Flickr
Picked up this Norlund hatchet today. Gonna sharpen it up and see what the hype is all about!
This is a vintage handle I use to shape.
heartwoodhandle_finished by city_ofthe_south, on Flickr
I have my favorite vintage handle that I use as a guide as well. Love the fawn's foot you put on that. Nice job!
Thank you! Somehow my addiction to axes has really turned into a handle addiction - anyone reading, don't be throwing those old handles away if they come broken on a head - so gathering old patterns is high on my priority list now that I have a couple axes that I want to be really nice.
I just picked up the same exact hatchet about two weeks ago. It appears to be very good steel...I carved some hard maple with it last night and it didn't seem to care at all. A little strop when I was done and back in the sheath. I think you'll like it. I have one other Norlund in a boy's axe size and it seems to have fantastic steel.
Last week I scored these two double bits locally(Keen Kutter and Firestone Supreme, both marked 3.5lbs). The Firestone supreme double bit has seen its share of use but that Keen Kutter appears to be unused, and re-hung on its original handle. The wood in the eye of the Keen Kutter is nothing more then rotted pulp, and the name Keen Kutter can be faintly seen on the handle.
My question for the experts is that since this Keen Kutter seems to have never seen a file or stone and is on its original handle, it is still OK to re-hang it and get it ready for occasional pampered use, or should this one be kept as is? I do not own land, and the only chance I would likely have to use it is car and canoe camping. I did not buy it to use it, but I am not a collector. The price was so crazy low that I could not pass this one up, and now that I have had it for over a week I cant stop thinking of hanging it and putting a file to it to confirm it is legit(I have read of cast iron fakes). Thoughts?
Some surface rust but no pitting, otherwise in good shape, shown here with one coat of BLO.
Collins head on a 19" House handle accompanied by an OTM Bushcrafter by Brian Andrews. Taken yesterday in the Tonto National Forest.
I'm new here, but I've gotta say that's some mighty impressive axe work!
Shtick, that was a great video on making an axe sheath... You made it look easy and something I want to start doing. I'm new here, but have picked up a wealth of information already! Thanks!
Anyone who can make a HF piece useful and look good at the same time has talent. Hats off!
GB Large Carving Axe bought from a very generous man.
Fixed up a new Tomahawk, sort of, a nice old True Temper got some TLC.
Anyone have any experience with an axe like this?
I watched a documentary about hunters and trappers in Siberia. They all used axes like this with a longer handle. No one went anywhere without it. The documentary was called "Happy People" it is a 4 part show on youtube.
Those people have some skill with an axe: making skis and traps.
Nope but I've seen the same video. I've also seen numerous
Russian bushcrafters using those axes. Kinda ugly yet intriguing.
How good is the steel in yours?
Thank you very much!
About as good as a surplus Swedish axe I got last year.
Not in same league with a GB but not expensive either.
Does it have a flat profile?
I have a really nice old BSA type but want a flatter profile for carving.
Ive seen where folks take a GB carving axe and mod it to a flatter geometry so it hogs off wood better when shaping spoons or kuksas.
BTW, where did you get this Russian axe?
Got it off ebay from Bulgaria. That is where pic came from too. shipping is over twice axe cost. Profile is fairly flat. I need to take a day and do some chopping to see if I am gonna like it. I know I still like feel of my Norlund Hudson Bay hatchet better, so far.
A friend of mine gave me a couple axes to fix up for him. One of them doesn't have a wedge, it has a quarter, a nail, and a .243 shell in it... Can't make out the embossment, but its an old boys Axe.
Haha yeah. I'm trying to figure out a way to properly hang it, but still have that shell in there for whatever sentimental value it might have for him... Besides, its just funny to see.
Maybe after its done soaking in blo (if you use it) and while its still wet. You can take the shell, cut it so its a straight case and tap it in place with a deadblow. I think it might work, grain will be open and the blo will act as a lubricant for the shell. Definitely do a test piece with something first. It will be interesting if it has to be rehung later on.
Plumb Champion axe, google it, they have nice embossings, that one doesn't look to bad, should clean up nice. I would hit it with a wire brush on a grinding wheel, then use a grinding disc to remove any mushrooming, nicks, etc. It doesn't heat up the metal if you do it right, sure beats a hand file.
Hell I hit the entire surface with a flap disc, it removes a very small amount of the metal, really quickly (compared to hand sanding it, or electric sanding it) which some people will really speak out against, but IMO it does very little to the head, people will spend hours sanding it, to get the same result that hitting it with a flap disc will give you, in 5 minutes, just check the heat on it to make sure it isn't hot or warm, and you'll be fine.
Photo of three Champions that I have done this too, I follow up with some light sanding of some higher grits.
Also another axe I did the same with, I have a matching double to go with it.
Hit me up with a PM if your friend would be interested in selling that Plumb Champion. Thanks.
Over the holiday my brother-in-law was showing me a little old Eastwing hatchet 12" in length, that his grandfather gave him, said he bought it back in the 1920's or 1930's. I know they've been in business since 1923 so it might very well be that old. Eastwing time stamps their products with the year of manufacture underneath the stacked leather, so there's no way to know exactly when it was made without destroying the handle. This hatchet, along with a few old knives, were some sentimental items that my brother-in-law wants to hang onto as keepsakes to remind him of his grandfather who won't be around for much longer. He was asking and unsure about the process of restoring it....so I offered to do it for him. I think he may have been secretly hoping that I'd offer. Haha. Well, he treats my sister real good so I was happily up for the task. Since this will not be put back into use, I left the edge alone as I wanted to preserve the patina. No vinegar used here, just a soft wire wheel brush on the metal parts. Most of the work was to purty the leather handle up. I also replaced the stitching in the sheath which was almost entirely missing. Here are a few before and after pics...
I hope he likes how it turned out.
The Russian type of axe is TOPOR - ТОПОР.
Guys, for the quality of the Russian steel and axes you can reаd a lot in the net...
Just have in mind that in places like Siberia you cant survive at all without an excellent axe...
The temperatures are -50 Celsius the plastic handle axe in example will be broken only from the cold.
As I know the Russians have government standard for the quality of the axes.
As I can see from the pictures above with the dollar bill - it is not a real Russian axe - it is Chinese cheep copy.
Here is one of the good producers of Russian axes.
I'm sure your brother-in-law will be pleased with the gentle restoration, and the back story makes it all the more special.Nice job!
I received an old hewing axe a few days ago that was found on my grandfathers land several decades ago. I took it off the old handle and removed what rust I could with some rust remover and cleaned it up. The only markings on it I can see initially looked like it says "Mutter" along with a K above it, but after some research I'm led to believe these markings used to say Keen Kutter. I checked out the history of Keen Kutter and it doesn't really look like any of their logos so I'm not 100% convinced.
There is also a "4" imprinted near where the tempering begins towards the blade edge. Now I am working on rehanging it.
This axe has an interesting tempering, looks like they took a separate piece of steel and folded it over the edge. If anyone knows more information about this axe let me know.
Here are some pictures!
definitely keen kutter, probably late 1800's. they didn't start using the logo that we're all familiar with until much later. nice find.
Two saws in a log
Two one-man hardwood saws, an Atkins (on left) and a Disston. The Atkins has several gauges of taper, which allows me to put less set in the teeth and makes for a smoother running saw. Both pulled noodles in dry oak.
great post Dan!!
I always love seeing your posts. I can never get enough of crosscut saws. My old college room mate from LONG ago gifted me a champion style felling saw that was in his family's barn for about 40 years. It had a eastern loop handle on one side and a climax handle on the other.
I has a fair amount of rust on it, but I'm going to see if we can get her cleaned up and check the pedigree.
Again, thanks for your trail work and keeping this awesome thread with crosscuts alive.
Most felling saws I encounter are in pretty good shape. They got a lot less use than bucking saws in the day, but could buck pretty well with a little practice.
The Simonds #513 was probably the best felling saw ever made yet was stiff enough to buck with. An advantage on the trail both for carry weight and ability to get a wedge in behind the cut much sooner than with a bucking saw.
One man crosscut saw
I found this today had to grab it. It's slightly over 3ft long and surprisingly has practically no rust or pitting. Got it for $20.
Husky carpenters axe. Fairly new still. Absolutely love so far
Council Tool FSS Boy's Axe. It arrived shaving sharp, but I did some carpentry on the handle, gave it a light cherry stain, and a few coats of BLO. Badger Claw made the axe collar and sling, and added his well known dot pattern. I couldn't be happier with this rig, I know it will accompany me on many adventures into the woods.
looking good man!! thanks again for all your support. happy new year!