Best Budget Quilt?

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  1. NESurvival

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    Looking for a good backpacking quilt for three seasons, probably 30 degree rating. I like the HG Economy Top Quilt, but I was wondering if there was anything cheaper. Probably not, you get what you pay for, but figured I would see first. Thanks.



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    Loco libre has a saver series of quilts. Not sure of the pricing. Outdoor vitals might have a quilt that fits your bill as well.
     
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    Military poncho liner works well for me in temps down to about 45F. I can take it down to about 35F with the poncho included. That is with fleece socks in spring/fall, add a wool beanie to about 40F. I add light wool mittens under 40F. But I do like sleeping a little cold-ish. YMMV.
     
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    Unlikely to find one cheaper at that quality
     
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    It seems that “quilts” in the backpacking/camping world vary in the meanings....some are just essentially blankets and cost $25 while a more sleeping bag shaped quilt with a foot box costs much more. But when searching the internet for backpacking quilts they both show up. For a blanket type down quilt, the Costco black diamond quilts are a great value IMO. I jumped on the band wagon after reading great reviews and ordered a couple for $20 each. They seem to poof up nicely though they aren’t baffled and the top is stitched to the bottom. That thing almost feels like an electric blanket on you and seems to radiate heat!

    I’ve got a snugpak jungle blanket and a woobie as well, but neither are as warm, lite and compressible as the Costco quilt. Have read that folks will often modify and beef up these quilts as well.
     
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    Can you buy the costco quilts online? Or only in the store? Thanks.
     
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    I don’t know of a cheaper one to point you to — bet others here will — but I have two HG Econs and do consider them an excellent value.

    One thing to mention... you said “backpacking”... if you sleep on the ground (as I do) you will want to get the wide option if you go with the HG.
     
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    I got them online from Costco around Christmas time and was a 2 for $40 deal. Just looked and didn’t see them on their site but are available from other retailers.....$30 was the cheapest I found with a quick search :( It’s called the double black diamond quilt. Maybe they’ll pop up again for the 2 for $40 deal in the future
     
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    A footbox is mandatory for me for backpacking under 60 degrees.
     
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    Not meaning to derail ops thread. But what advantages over wool would you have with a quilt?

    Do you just carry one and burrito in it?
     
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    Vellly interesting. I have a jungle blanket but it’s been too cold since I got it. Haven’t seen a quilt at Costco but will definitely look. My other Black Diamond and other gear from Costco has all been good.
     
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    A true backpacking quilt has a foot box like a sleeping bag, but with no insulation on the bottom like a sleeping bag. Like this:
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    A wool blanket is much heavier than a down quilt, and it is just a flat blanket. But, you would be screwed with a down quilt too close to a fire, as it would melt from spark holes incredibly easily. Both have their pros and cons, but for backpacking a down quilt makes more sense, but it is rather illogical for a more primitive camp.
     
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    Yup, pretty much says it.

    “Both have their pros and cons.”

    I have been collecting gear for decades... have mummy bags, traditional camping sleeping bags, nice military surplus wool blankets, and down quilts. Also a jungle blanket I haven’t been able to use yet.

    For me, a good down quilt is the best all-around choice.
     
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    Massdrop has their cobranded version of the Enlightened Equipment quilt. At $219 that is more than a wide HG Econ 30 but less than an HG Burrow.

    My BIL has a Burrow. Really likes it. Enough so that I would get an Econ 20 if I had the cash. Yeah, get the Wide if you are wide. Or if you are ground camping.

    Better move quick though. I bet orders are piling up. Spring is near. :eek:
     
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    I looked at those mass drop EE quilts a while back and seems I remember reading quite a few bad reviews about them being skimpy with the down stuffing. Not sure if that’s changed but I’d read the reviews closely before diving in. I read enough to be turned off. A backpacking down quilt will be my next sleeping purchase but I’ll probably be surfing the options for the next year or two
     
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    HG Economy seems to be the way to go.
     
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    Just purchased a Burrow Econ, looking forward to getting it in the mail!
     
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    I just sewed a footbox on my Costco quilt. Not that hard, even if you had to do it by hand.
     
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    I’d like to do that as well but still not sure how cold I would use it to. I would think 50 degrees would be about the lowest I’d sleep warm with it alone. Not sure though
     
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    Picked up one of the Ozark quilts the other day. Immediately took it out of the (way too small) stuffsack to let it expand. Doesn't seem (at this point) to be any thicker or have more insulation than the military poncho liner. I am hopeful that by allowing it to live in a much larger stuffsack, which I think is much easier to compress into your pack, it will increase in loft to provide better insulation. I figure I'll check it in about a week and assess it's condition. Worst case I'll have another poncho liner style blanket for summer uses.
     
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    I did a test 2 weekends ago between the two. Camped out Friday and Saturday nights with lows of about 30 degrees both nights. Used the Ozark quilt as a liner in my patrol bag night 1 and a woobie as a liner the 2nd night. I was fine with the Ozark quilt and got chilled with the woobie. Not a perfect test but it was real world results.

    I agree with you that either way you'll have another liner for your use!
     
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    Hammock gear Burrow Econ arrived today! Testing it out tonight with all the windows open in my bedroom, then its off to test it outside in the coming weeks! Thank you all for the recommendations!
     
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    Any update as to how the HG Burrow Econ is doing for you?
     
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    Love it! I have used it on a week long mission trip, venting the whole time because it was so warm. I also got to use it on an overnight hike where the temps got into the mid thirties. I used two pieces of shock cord to create an attachment system to help with drafts, which worked pretty well. I was only slightly chilly when I rolled over at one point towards the morning, but then warmed up again. I was in only pants and a synthetic top layer, plus a beanie. It packs down incredibly small, being a half the size and weight of my old sleeping bag. Overall I love it, and it has been totally worth the money.
     
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    I love my econ burrow. I have a 40 degree which opens up in the footbox to become a blanket. I'm not tall, so I got the short size on the cheap. Packs down small and works great in the hammock, especially on those nights when the libations need to be voided and I just have to kick out my feet, put on my shoes, and get it done.
     
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    I have hammock gear burrow and incubator quilts for the hammock. Both 40 degree and love them. Glad you like your econ, HG makes good stuff.
     
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    Hey @Odinborn ...

    I am guessing you weren't asking me, but I have been using HG 20 degree Burrow Econs for a while now... pre-dating my return to the forum. Used them from 18 - 88 degree nights, usually in high humidity.

    I have said all this before, and sorry if I am a broken record.

    I think a down quilt is a great choice for a sleep system. For me it's the best choice. (I have two nice mummy bags (20 degree and 0 degree), two Polish mil surplus blankets, a SnugPak Jungle Blanket, and three HG quilts: two 20 degree Econs and a 0 degree Premium).

    I think the HG Burrow Econ 20 is far and away the standout for versatility, comfort, and value. Here in the Southern Appalachians, it's a workable year-round solution. Elsewhere it is an outstanding three-season solution.

    One of the best purchases I have ever made.

    Also, when I ordered my Premium I called them about some design changes that had happened since I got my Econs. Great communication, great personalized service. We all love our handmade knives and axes... really this is the same kind of thing. After talking to them, I sometimes think about that when I am bedding down for the night. This is handmade gear, and the folks who make it take their craft very seriously.
     
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    In VA similar environment, same Mountains, similar quilt same experience so far. I've got an Enigma 20° which is very similar. Happy with the sewn in footbox. Honestly my feet end up inside it more often than not and if not it's easy to toss the quilt off, vent, slide it down and use just a corner or batten down the hatches. I've used mine in temps ranging from the 70s down to the teens. I've been equally impressed with my Xlite pad I got to pair with it. I thought the insulation was going to be too much in warmer weather but honestly I don't notice it until it's cold. It's really nice having one sleep system that is so versatile.

    Last use was Father's day weekend at tides stadium. It was the second time I was impressed with how comfortable it was even on a warmer night. And even waking up covered in condensation the quilt was still fully lofted. I'm really starting to think a lot of the stuff about down being unreliable in the wet is a bunch of hoopla. Even when I've gotten untreated down wet it quickly dried from my sons body heat and the ambient temperature. Yes I know down bag in a child's pack + lots of water crossings - minus waterproof cover is bad, in his defense it wasn't his fault another adult fell and took him out with him.
     
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    I like being able to stretch out and wrap myself up like a burrito.I decided to try the largest 3 season budget quilts I could find that matched my woodland camo Grand Trunk double hammock, I ended up buying the Onetigris winter double underquilt and it's matching top quilt in od green.Its been way to hot outside for me to try them yet unfortunately, but I can say the material is quiet enough for hunters.

    They pack nicely, especially the top quilt.The underquilt fits in my 65l backpacks sleeping bag compartment.After tossing the top quilt, pillow and tarp in the main compartment I'm only using 1/3 of its space, I have plenty of room for a 20l compression bag full of clothes, plus food, water bladders, etc.

    Kelty also makes a little budget quilt called the bestie blanket, they are only $20.They are kind of small but I'm sure it would work fine at a 45* angle.The offer it in camo with orange on the back side.
     
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    I've had good luck with my Jungle Blacket XL. With the XL theres enough material to fold under like a foot box. I've been perfectly comfy down to the 40s. 30s would be a stretch I imagine.
    I need to get a hold of the black diamond blanket. Hopefully Costco gets more.
     
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    UPDATE:
    I have used my HG Econ on a four-day three-night backpacking trip and it performed excellently. Temps ranged from the low forties to mid fifties and was able to cinch or vent depending on the temp. I also used it on a three night camping trip with temps in the low forties and it was also plenty warm. I have a chance to use it this week for a trip with a low of 37, so it will be getting closer to its limit. Overall opinion is still great, and would recommend 100%
     
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    UPDATE for post #21:

    I've used the Ozark Trails quilt a couple of times this summer. It makes an adequate layer alone for warm-ish nights, just like a poncho liner. Both of them together make a pretty good pair down to about 40 degrees F or thereabouts, especially for the weight. I've also used it to extend the range of a regular sleeping bag (wrapped around like a taco shell). It added about 10 to 15 degrees of useful insulation. As always, YMMV.
     
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    Costco down/synthetic throws are inexpensive (~$20USD, $30CDN), and sewing a footbox into it is a matter of folding it into thirds, so the long edges touch in the middle. Sew along the short edge completely (the bottom of your footbox), and from there, up the long edge about 2 ft. Flip the whole thing inside out to hide your handiwork, and that's it! The entire project will take about 5 minutes with a sewing machine, and maybe an hour by hand. If you are concerned it won't be warm enough, pad it with ANOTHER, unsewn throw. (I do this in Winter with my underquilt made from the same throws) Having the footbox allows the top quilt to "hang" off your feet, so it doesn't climb up your legs while you sleep. It won't get any cheaper.
     
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