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  1. sdjsdj

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    @GeoKrpan, are you using a shim on the surly open bar? Also I just changed my stem to a short Mtb stem but it's still 31.4mm. I see origin 8 has a very similar bar in 31.4
     
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    Dude, that's exactly what I do. I call it geek hunting. I get my t-shirts a Target, Champion C9, poor man's Patagonia.
     
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    Yep, using 31.8 to 25.4 shim from Problem Solvers and Park SAC2 anti-slip paste. I haven't had the slightset hint of handlebar slip. The Surly bar is well designed in this respect with deep serrations in the clamp area. I have had trouble with other steel bars but not the Surly. The stem that came with you bike is a very good stem, use it if you can. The Open bar comes in Zero and 40mm rise/drop. I got the Zero.
     
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    Bike came, excuse me for the horrible photo. Very happy with it. Going to get the fox transfer factory dropper to match the factory fork and shock.

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    Very cool looking bike.
     
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    Thanks. It's got a full XT groupset, fox kashima factory fork and rear shock, maxxis tires, race face bar and stem, and dt swiss wheels. Today I'm swapping to a shorter stem and setting it up tubeless.
     
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    Sheesh, that was fast, looks good.
     
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    The stem I ordered is too short for my comfort. Trying a 60mm next. Hopefully it will be the right size.
    Debating the tubeless. Right now I switch tires between the 29 x 3 when trails, and some 700c road touring tires. If I go tubeless, I'll be locked in. Hmm.
     
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    Yes it was. First ride was tonight. Again, pictures from a friends phone who rode with me. Really enjoy this bike.

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    Either you need a second set of wheels or another bike.

    BTW Vee Tire has come out with 29x2.8 slicks. Also available in 27.5x3 and 26x2.8.

    https://www.veetireco.com/listings/plus-size-speedster/

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    Any idea where I can get a second set of wheels for the Motobecane for around $250? I'd want 29 or 27.5. I can transfer my rotor and cluster from 26x4. Need the correct hub spacing. Originally it was listed as 170R/140F. But it seems 135 is more common.

    Also been working on my bunny hop and I like the length of the 60mm stem. The one I ordered is pretty cheaply made. Will need to look around for an upgrade. To make my manuals easier, I put my handlebars back to more upright position.
    I also repacked my rear hub because I have pretty tough on the bike. Another question, how do I get the "opposite side nut off the axle? One side breaks free, and the other side never comes off. I tried the vise grips in the middle (non -threaded portion).
    Lastly, I took a couple of loops around the skills course. Each loop was progressively better. But boy do I lack "style".
     
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    A set of 29+ wheels with 135/170 hub spacing is not going to be easy to find, you'll probably have to have them built. Origin 8 sells an inexpensive 170mm rear hub, I reckon there is a matching 135mm front hub. Since you won't be running a plus tire you can use an ordinary 29er rim which can be found cheaply.

    https://www.niagaracycle.com/catego...HUPLd9TPygJEpp4UmL5QMJVuJoa3AZLDNAaAm8b8P8HAQ

    You need a 15mm cone wrench.

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    Any chance" lacing my own wheel" is viable option?
    Regarding the cone wrench, the problem seems that the nut is frozen on and there is nothing to counteract the turning on the axle. I was able to remove the axle from the hub because the other side broke free first.
     
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    The cone has flats for the cone wrench. See them? Lacing your own totally viable.
     
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    Seems like my cost for a new wheel would be $32 for the hub, $20 for spokes, $46 for a rim . About a $100. Would I need any other tools other than spoke nipple offset screwdriver, spoke wrench, truing stand? Is a spoke tension meter and wheel alignment gauge necessary?
     
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    Tension meter not necessary. I think you can get by without a dishing tool.

    I have to admit I've never built a wheel, pre-built wheels are usually cheaper. And, I used to know a shop that built a wheel for $40 including the spokes.
     
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    ive built 3 working at the shop. Its not too hard, but then again I work with a very good wheel builder who showed me what to do. Take your time and tension everything evenly and you will be ok. Only do a quarter turn at a time with the spokes, and it it gets too hard to tension one spoke loosen the other side, because a wheel can fold in on itself when building. I believe we charge $60 for labor + spokes and nipples. We cut the threads into the spokes after we cut them to length so we just buy full length unthreaded dt swiss spokes.
     
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    $60 is very fair. Spoke cutting machines are the way to go.

     
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    Yep, this is the one we use. It works great!
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    Very cool looking piece of machinery. Wonder what would happen if I stuck my lughead skull in there?
     
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    Your friends will say....Look, Lughead got screwed.

    And I say this with a smile :)
     
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    thinking of going back to clipless on the new bike. Thinking of either xt trail pedals or the new ht enduro clipless pedals. Leaning torwards the xt because I can get cleats and parts easily.
     
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    That doesn't look like an expensive piece of machinery. I was under the impression that it was. I suppose that there are expensive ones, electric, automated, etc.

    PS I saw one on the Internet, $199.

     
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    nope, simple, quick and very effective.
     
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    $140 on Amazon. Wonder how much replacement dies are.
     
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    Did my first Mtb race tonight. 11 miles. I did not have the worst time, but was 3rd to last. Techniques are improving. I had never done this course before. Lots of fun. I finished in 1 : 11 : 44. Best time for the race was 49 minutes. Hmm that's 23 minutes difference. Lots of times around the 55 minutes mark. I am going to do the course again and see if I can hit 1hr 4 minutes. I think I can shave 7 min now that I am familiar with course and if I push it a bit harder during certain sections. I lose time by over braking. I think my inexperience does not allow me to get good flow. 2nd lap I felt much more comfortable.
     
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    That's awesome. Definitely a disadvantage not knowing the course. Was there any technical sections?
     
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    No. Lots of hairpins, rollers, couple of small drops (12") over logs, couple of rock gardens, and literally a couple thousand trees lining standing guard right on the edges of the trail. One of them even "befriended my right shoulder"
     
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    Id like to do a race like that. Next year hopefully I will be racing enduro.
     
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    Set up the dt swiss wheels tubeless tonight. Went very smoothly. 3 oz and a teaspoon of glitter.
     
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    I imagine it is pretty lame by Enduro standards, but there is a regional "professional XC race there. It's a "blue rated course" with a couple of black sections. All hand maintained by our local IMBA chapter. Road hoes, Pulaski's, shovels and strong backs
     
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    First time 2Bliss?

     
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    What's with the glitter? To detect leaks?
     
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    Hmm. Went to the LBS last night. Walked away with my Motobecane still the only bike on my car rack(I have room for three). But always a dangerous thing to window shop.
    Looked at a Santa Cruz 29er hard tail, front suspension. Man that thing was light. $1,600
     
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    Don't do it. Don't buy a bike that won't fit plus tires. You can run regular 29er tires on a plus bike but you can't run plus tires on a regular 29er.

     
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    I recently did something that I didnt know I could do.
    My first charity Ultra-Marathon.
    100 kilometers in 12 hours.
    It was a big party before, during, and after.

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    nope, ive done it on every bike ive owned except for the fatbike.
     

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