Discussion in 'Transportation' started by werewolf won, Jun 16, 2011.
Jeff Jones video.
Would love to ride the trails in the videos. I have been a fan of his bikes for a while.
In another video Jones talks about his local trails, tight and twisty, and that dual suspension bikes struggle more than he does.
A steel Jones frameset with truss fork is $1350.
Bike Snob NYC got a Jones bar for his no suspension 27.5+.
My Jones H-bar is great with extra chunky ESI silicon grips.
But, his frames and forks are way beyond my reach. I definitely agree with his philosophy of going to a plus bike over a suspension bike especially for my type of riding.
I did ride a rigid for a while. But my riding has shifted from all mountain to more enduro type riding, with bigger jumps and drops, and a rigid bike just doesnt really cut it.
Want to get a set of tires for the charge for the trails up here. Thinking wtb resolute or nano 40. I cant decide on which one.
$1350 isn't all that bad for such a highly crafted frameset. I could probably build the entire bike for $2000, much less than a good suspension bike.
I have the WTB Nano 40s. They ride nice on the pavement but feel too light on the rough parts of the trail, a heavier tire would ride better. I know it sounds rediculously heavy but I think a 1000 gram tire on the front and a Nano 40 on the rear would be good. I used to ride a steel SS CX bike on the trails with very heavy Michelin Citys and it was much better on the rough stuff than what I'm riding now.
I'm looking at these, $20, 700x47, 835 grams.
Here's what a guy said about them who is traning for the Dirty Kanza 200, a 200 mile gravel race.
I am training for DK200 and wanted something that I could go high mileage on most gravel surfaces plus asphalt without feeling like I was leaving dollars on the road as the knobs wore away. I got these last week and have already put about 200 miles on them, including an 85 miler this weekend. On that longer ride I was on my gravel bike and my friends were on road bikes. We stuck primarily to asphalt, but being spring the roads are in pretty rough shape. I had no problems whatsoever flatwise, and was able to hang with the roadies pretty well - as they were weaving around the potholes I was either blasting through them or bunny hoping the really bad ones. They look great on my Giant TCX Pro 2 - I almost feel like Mad Max. As I approach the DK starting line I will think about a lighter option, but I know it will be difficult to let go of these dependable and inexpensive babies! Especially if the spring remains dry out there ...
Another guy said he did the DK200 on the 700x42 size and got no flats.
PS They come in 700x28, 32, 42, and 47. All at the same price, $19.96.
Time to Drop the Drops?
Bike Snob NYC latest rant about drop bars.
That's because the writer obviously doesn't live in a area with long flat open roads, good descents, or strong consistant headwinds. Rube.
So I've been collecting photos of bikes on campus. At least one is really interesting. Ever since they put more bike racks in the pedegre of bicycle has improved somewhat. There are now two folding bikes that lock up here. The number of old rigid MTBs has increased slightly, the are way more unsuspended hybrids as well. A few more road bikes, too. What's the saying? If you build it they will come?
This red one is interesting because it's got 40mm deep toroidal rims that are also like 25mm+ wide. Bike weighed a ton though.
I've seen this one on campus before but it's like a ghost: you only ever get sideways glimpses of it. Finally got a good look at the fixie. Pretty neat. Don't recognize the brand of frame though...
A real life Brompton
O Motbecame SS
A totally wild vintage GT hybrid, canti brake, 29er.
Weird department store stuff again.
This commuter bike is fare to reasonable to have been bought from a department store.
So green. More weird an whacky department store craziness.
I had these in mind for replacing my Kenda Kwests when they were out.
we have some really nice bikes on campus. Theres 2 people with cinelli track bikes, a guy with a cannondale cross bike, another guy with a giant cross bike. Theres a guy who rides a kona hei hei mountain bike to class, who I happen to race with. The one that takes the cake is a scott gambler dh bike, too nice of a bike to leave in a rack in my opinion.
Have over 75 miles of these trails right outside of campus. Perfect for my gravel bike.
I ride them at night a lot.
Envious of you. Should be fun to ride those when the snow comes around too. Bring your fatbike along this winter please. If you guys get lots of lake snow and those paths stay covered, it might also be a good idea to pick up some cross country ski equipment (the used stuff is dirt cheap). It's more fun than you'd expect.
I just set a friend up with what should be THE NICEST BIKE ON CAMPUS. He's got an old Raleigh 12 speed from his uncle. Somehow he figured out a way to rip the bolt on derailleur hanger and derailleur off the bike on the first ride. Actually snapped the bolt off of the derailleur hanger and spread open the semi, horizontal drop out. . Banged on the dropout with a hammer and used a big 12 inch adjustable wrench to get it back in place. Tossed on one of my nicer sets of flip flop ss/fix wheels, set him up fixed so he had some sort of a brake, removed the old rear brake as it was inoperable anyway, adjusted the front break so it kinda worked and set him on his way. He seemed over the moon. Couldn't stop telling me how smooth and efficient the bike felt. He even got a compliment on the bike in the elevator ride up to his room.
Bike's got chrome tipped forks and some of the nicest lugs I've seen on a production bike. The thing is supper cool. Nice and light, no rust, all the bearing were in good shape... I was very envious.
I plan on riding the fat bike on it. Its also a snow mobile trail on some sections, so it will be packed down real well.
Gotta' love Bike Snob for being so blasphemous. I agree with him. Few use the drops. It's more about something else, fitting in, not wanting to look weird, posuering, etc. Not about having the best setup.
That's fantastic. Almost no gravel in SoCal. : ((
Oh trust me, I've had a similar thought as the snob.
The issue becomes that there is no real replacement for the brifter. There are no integrated shifter brake levers for bull horn bars, which the writer suggests the reader to switch to, while your type of drop set up doesn't mesh well with the aero integration that everyone is looking for these days. Let us also not forget that the people tend to do the whole wrap the two fingers over the front of hoods with the other two clutching the rest of the brake hood when putting down lots of watts; a utility of drop bar hoods that are lost when going with some other bar setup.
I propose a counter argument. Drop bars still exist because there is no alternative on the market that provides the same utility. Add to that the fact that there is such a built up stock of them in the world and it makes sense that cost converting vs using existing tech make makes no economic sense. The CONTEMPORARY drop bar may not exactly suit contemorary riding habits. This is exactly the reason why we are seeing bars like the old rando bars, and the newer breed of dirt drop bars get developed and come into vogue. Oh and the bike snob is a raving contrarian. We should take everything written on that blog with a fist sized pinch of salt. That's part of what makes the blog fun. It provides a bit of perspective for the dudes that actively chug the coolaide.
Drops aren't dead; they just need an update.
Thank you for your thoughts.
With my setup I am in the drops 100% of the time. My arms may be less aero but my body is more aero because it's lower. Being bent more means more muscular engagement, and, wider bars give more leverage at the crank.
I am waiting for some high profile win on dirt drops and the buzz it will create.
That would be cool. This the invention of those spring grips, that might not be to far off in the future. I envision something like the Tour Devide or other endurance event being where that will happen. We can all benefit from the veriaty that should help usher in. Who knows we may even see the pros (the conservative bunch they are) adopting a little more flair. We are already starting to see that happen to a very slight degree as it is.
this looks like fun.
Guy rides this CX bike pretty hard
Got a dusting of snow last night. Decided to go on a ride at midnight.
New hardtail. Didn't ride the singletrack today to avoid messing up the trails but got muddy on the gravel anyway.
Looks as though it's a 29er.
Bike Snob got a Renovo wooden bike.
Joints on those look pretty clean!
It looks to be beautifully made. Snob says they cost no more than a nice carbon frame.
That wooden bike looks really nice. How much does it weigh? Similar to aluminum? How does it compare to those bamboo bikes?
Don't know how the weight compares. There's a guy that has one in my town, rarely see him tho.
Wow! Where the heck are you located? I’d honestly drive a ways to trails that nice.
Currently at school in Rochester NY
Found these on Craigslist of all places, a ritchey venturemax comp handlebar. Couldn’t pass it up for $25. So far, I really like the shape. I have about 60 miles on them so far. I like the ergo drops too that they have.
Also got some hex skewers. No more quick release for me. Much stiffer too it seems.
The Ritchey bar looks good. Try standing in the drops. With that bar and those brakes, your bike is really shaping up.
That the hex skewers makes things feel stiffer makes sense.
How wide are those bars?
PS Jenson USA has them, $95, in 42, 44, and 46 widths.
PS PS Those are the nominal widths but I want to know how wide they actually are.
42cm bar measures 43.25 cm from center of hood to center of hood.
Thanks. What do they measure at the ends of the drops?
we test the Binford 6000 knee scooter ....