Bidor Parang Blanks

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  1. cityofthesouth

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    Scored these blanks several months ago and finally got to working on one of them this weekend. Being an axe enthusiast my first notion was to make one of them have an axe-like handle. Took a chunk of rough sawn oak (not sure the origin), chopped it into rough shape and burned in the tang. Finished with linseed oil, of course. Right now it is fixed with epoxy but I think I will put a pin in it. What do you guys think? I know that they are often unpinned but I dunno, my brain just thinks it needs a pin. Anyway, it's 12 inches and pictured with my Thai Enep. Hopefully I will get to working on the others, and I want to do a different style for each handle and press some kydex. Thanks for looking!

    [​IMG]parang_blanks by city_ofthe_south, on Flickr

    [​IMG]parang_oakhandle by city_ofthe_south, on Flickr

    [​IMG]parang_enep3 by city_ofthe_south, on Flickr

    [​IMG]parang_enep1 by city_ofthe_south, on Flickr

    [​IMG]parang_details by city_ofthe_south, on Flickr
     
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    Looks really nice. Good job.
     
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    Looks great!!
     
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    Wow! Very nice! I've been lusting after one of those...
     
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    Looks great! I really like that style of parang blade and the handle you fashioned looks very functional. Love to hear how it works for you.
     
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    Looks good! Customized to your hand, it should prove to be an excellent tool.
     
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    I like! Looks like a user.
     
  8. cityofthesouth

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    Thanks everyone. It feels good. Moving my hand back into the swell really gives you access to wrist action cutting, but it also feels natural to move up on it the way it is often seen done in the videos of Malaysians using them. I don't have any experience with parangs beyond that, but I think I captured the utility ... hopefully. I usually expect to ruin the first of anything, but it went smoothly enough that I am now looking forward to trying the others.

    [​IMG]parang_enep_bladethickness by city_ofthe_south, on Flickr

    It weighs 1lb, 1oz and the Enep weighs 1lb, 11oz. This makes the parang feel light. But the Enep is a powerhouse.
     
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    Very clean... great job.
     
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    I really like the light handled one. Looks sweet...

    By the way, how is the edge on the blank. I'd be interested in how it performs and whether is can stand up to some chopping without major damage..
     
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    Looks good. How does it perform, and how good are those blanks?
     
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    i like the looks of your handle. seems like it would seat right in when youre chopin.
    as far as pinning goes, so long as it dosnt interfere with field repairs or create a weakness in the tang, i cant see the harm. id be interested in other opinions though.

    im surprised no one asked the big question...
    where did you find the blanks and are there more available?

    cheers
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    I just realized it may not be clear, but the Enep (larger, dark handled knife) was a finished product I purchased several years ago, I just included it in the pics for reference. As for the blade quality, I only just got the parang put together, but I finished sharpening it tonight which gave some indication about the steel. It came roughly ground but not sharpened and I spent some time cleaning up the grind. I'll do some testing, maybe tomorrow - I'll be chasing turkeys so I may not get around to it. However, sharpening gives good impressions and I'm happy with the steel at this point. It sharpened pretty similarly to other carbon steels I've encountered, not as soft as I expected, but easy to work with. It polished (or began to polish - I don't go past hard Arkansas) similarly as well on the Arkansas stones and took a good edge when it was all said and done. I was able to chase the burr back and forth without drama, the edge didn't fall apart as the burr shrunk. Really, no surprises during sharpening. Probably go after some hard wood to see if there is any rolling - I don't expect to see any chipping - but I'm optimistic right now. It's really more in the vein of a machete - not a beefy chopper. I'll report back as I get some use out of it.

    If you take a close look at the stickers in the first pic, you'll be able to figure out where they came from. I think they may still be available.
     
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    That's a damn fine job!

    The Bidor parings that you get from Outdoor Dynamics that have handles on them, also have the pins in them too.
     
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    great job on that handle.
     
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    That looks amazing!
     
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    I'll get some pics so there is something interesting to look at, but today I picked up a huge load of oak that was some sort of moving skid or something in a past life. Hard as stone, heavy as lead. Since it was just laying there in a pile I used the parang to knock the corners off a couple pieces and just generally strike it against something relatively unforgiving. Nothing to report. I don't see any issues with the steel. Just lots going on but I will eventually do some kind of actual testing.
     
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    Well it's been a few months, time for an update. It's looking like the steel on these is excellent. I've sharpened the first one a couple times now and took it on a somewhat serious bush whacking outing. It's a long story but I wanted to clear a path through some weeds essentially. Tall grasses about person height, plus lots of sumac and other scrubby trees. Using the handle to wrist flick, it laughs in the face of scrubby green stuff like sumac and saplings. It seems that the parang is right at home doing that kind of work. I suppose I ended up making a path 50 yards or so where I couldn't take a step without clearing - the area was basically too thick for a person to just walk through.

    Got another handle done this weekend too. The first one is just gold. It was an accident but it feels so perfect and it's really easy to flick the parang and feel like it can't possibly slip out of my hand. The toe of the "fawns foot" bumps into the palm of my hand when the knife is flicked so it just feels natural. This one is good, feels good, but it's not quite as sweet. I do like that it's a little shorter. This time I used an old nail to pin it because I think that's the sort of thing they might do in the jungle and I relieved a little track for some jute. I epoxied the jute, then singed it a few times and melted some wax into it. I filled the knot hole with saw dust mixed with epoxy and I actually like how that looks. It makes the handle a little less plain.

    [​IMG]parang2_pin by city_ofthe_south, on Flickr
    Same process as before. I split out a chunk of oak from my stash of skid wood, then roughed it out with my little GB hatchet, which is terrific for carving this sort of stuff I think.

    [​IMG]parang2_bidor3 by city_ofthe_south, on Flickr

    [​IMG]parang2_bidor2 by city_ofthe_south, on Flickr
     
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    excellent! Good looking blade.
     
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    Gorgeous!
     
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    Good stuff.

    They're animals in the right hands.
     
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    dam now I want one. nice job .
     
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    Is there somewhere to get the blanks? I would like to make one. Thanks
     
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    The blanks came from outdoor dynamics straight from Malaysia to me.
     
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    Wow! Nice looking parang. :dblthumb:
     
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    Illinois camping area seem to have been taken over by russian olive shrubs. Something like this looks to be a good answer to this problem. I think there is one of these in my near future. :)
     
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    Nice work! I'm also glad to see that there are others out there who have discovered the power of Aranyak Eneps.
     
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    neat and cool and groovy:44:
     
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    Got ambitious today and busted out the third one. I tried to take a few pics along the way and got another set of hands in the shop to capture the giant plumes of smoke during the burn in process. Good times! I tried out my CS Pipe Hawk for carving duties this time. It's not bad, but the handle just doesn't compare to a hatchet handle. The bend in my little GB hatchet is just the cat's meow for this sort of thing. This time I took some liberties with the handle and now I want to do about a half dozen more of them. This handle with a little fat belly in it, nice. At first I thought it wouldn't work and wouldn't look right but I'm glad I went with it. Now, after a number of hours in the shop, the brain starts to wonder (it starts to wander too), and my plan was to pin and wrap the first one to finish it off. Well I just got busy carving the little track for the twine, slathered it in epoxy and wrapped it all up nice and neat and then ....... realized some idiot forgot to even put the pin in. So I guess it wasn't meant to be. PICS!

    Get some!
    [​IMG]burning_tang1 by city_ofthe_south, on Flickr

    [​IMG]burning_tang2 by city_ofthe_south, on Flickr

    Old Yank did splitting duty, Pipe Hawk did the fine work. One stop cut and it was time to start making chips.
    [​IMG]parang_roughingout1 by city_ofthe_south, on Flickr

    [​IMG]parang_roughingout2 by city_ofthe_south, on Flickr
     
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    Have you tried working with them yet to see what handle shape is better.

    thanks
     
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    Well a little bit but the various plants in my yard are not looking terribly happy about my "testing". Just got the 3rd one done this afternoon so I'm gonna have to get out in the woods or find some more brush clearing to do someplace.


    It's pretty satisfying to be able to take 1" sections off small green woody plants with the flick of your wrist. Doesn't matter how springy they are, a quick snap on a 45 and it breezes right on through.
     
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    Very nice! I can definitely use one. I've tries a few other options. Billhook and small hand sythe, bk9, nothing seems to work well. I need to get in touch with the exporter. Thanks for sharing buddy.
     
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    I guess I never paid attention but their website says they are 5160 ... I am sure they are some kind of spring steel at the very least. Blanks aren't listed anymore but I think I'm gonna bug the guy I talked to before about that.
     
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    primo work; love the way you brought out the grain.
     
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    COTS isn't as active as he used to be, but here's a consolidated project thread. It was him that influenced me stepping up my handle game. Worth every rasp, spokeshave, and sandpaper stroke.
     
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    I`ve never seen this thread. Those are so awesome!
     
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    I contacted Nadir from Outdoor Dynamics and he indicated that the parang blanks are no longer available alone. You have to buy a completed parang.
     
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    Hey Bud,

    Im a parang guy, had a few over the years including trafitional ones.

    You need to epoxy and pin that handle. It will then last forever. I had a big failure on a trad parang where moisture had got into the handle, corroded the tang and eventually the handle material failed infront of the pin and the blade went flying. Not ideal
     
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    Really amazing work there, those are awesome.
     
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    Hi everyone I'm still alive, just not online much. Thanks for all the comments and kind words! It's a shame these aren't available anymore as blanks. It's a fun, pretty easy and quick project and the blanks were an excellent value IMO. I sold one of them for what I paid for the blanks so it worked out real well in the end. Ultimately there wasn't really a big difference from one handle shape to the next but each one has its own look and so I guess that's good enough.
     
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    It's funny, I'm reading back through this thread and found one of those memory doesn't match the recorded history situations. I believe the only one that didn't get a pin was the axe handle one - you can see it didn't start life with one. Since the other two were made some time after the first I distinctly recall pinning them. Not important, but sometimes the brain's memory of things gets called into question. This doesn't mean I'm getting older does it? I could tear one apart and discover the truth.
     
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    I'd love to get a couple blade blanks for the price listed on the stickers - 35 Malaysian Ringgit. That's $8.50. Maybe one of my local Malaysian friends can get some if they visit relatives.
     
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    If you can put that together, I'm in for a dozen.
     
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    sheesh, at 8.50 I'd buy a bunch too!

    Great work on the handles!
     
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