Binos or Mino, Which Do You Use?

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  1. Wasp

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    Do you guys like binoculars or handheld minoculars?

    Do you find low power is even worth the effort? Mid strength? Etc.
     
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    I carry a low budget set of compact binoculars.
     
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    8x32,8x42. All my deer live in deep cover, so as far as binoculars go I'm a birder. I have a Zeiss Terra ED that goes with me most places. Optics are one thing that I think you should save up, spend that extra hundred bucks and get a good pair.

    I've never messed with monoculars, so can't help you there.
     
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    I’ve got a set of 10x42 binos for hunting and a 10x25 mono for work.
     
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    Don't leave home w/o my binoculars. I recently upgraded to these 8x42 Vortex Diamondback's.
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    The 8 power were more expensive than the 10x42 model. I went with the lower 8 power based on what/how I use them. The 10x are really nice but I rarely need that extra magnification/reach for antler hunting and woods walking in my neck of the woods/terrain. If I lived in wide open territory and could benefit more from the 10x's I'd probably carry a mono-pod or tri-pod to steady my hands/head while using them. The 10x magnify my unsteadiness to a point where it's frustrating. The old saying 'you see more with less' is the case for my situation.

    PS. My upgraded Alaskan Guide Creations chest rig carries and protects my bino's so much nicer than the older open figure 8 chest straps configuration I used to run my old Leupolds on.

    I wouldn't have upgraded (to my new chest rig and/or new bino's) until I realized I outgrew my old setup after carrying them every time I went into the woods for the last 6 or 7 years shed hunting and mushroom hunting, etc...
     
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    I’ll admit, the mono has taken some time to get used to, especially after using binos all the time. However, it’s small and lightweight and fits into any pocket I have.
     
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    For some time, I walked around with a set of small, no-name €30 binocs and last year they finally broke. They were basically useless anyway. Optics is one of the fields where cheap gear just doesn't make sense.
    After some research, I ended up with a vintage set of Swarovski Habicht 8x30, probably from the '60s, but still in good condition. They are still in production today, although with better coating.
    They are bigger and heavier, but for me the quality makes up for it.

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    Good question, I have a pair of Steiner Predator 10x26, which is kind of a jack of all trades but master of none set. But I must say they are a good quality. I have toyed with the idea of during hunting season pairing low power binos (maybe a 4x or 6x) with a 10x monocular
     
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    I've had this Carl Zeiss monocular since the early 70's, a gift from my now wife when we were dating. It's about a 1/4" longer than a regular Bic lighter and very lightweight. The optics are still as clear as the day I got it. 8X power is fine and the field of view is good, provided I use good technique.

    The way I use it is to remove my glasses so that I can get the eyepiece close to my eye, look at the object I want to see, then place the monocular into my line of sight. I am usually spot on inserting it into my line of sight as opposed to putting it up to my eye first them trying to find the object I want to see - much more difficult. The field of view is more than satisfactory considering the trade off in size and weight.

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    I have little compact binos for the pack. The magnification and overall quality is fine. Width of view is very small. I keep a medium size pair of 7x35 for home and out on the water.

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    I really only look at the sky, at night w/a monocular.
    My big serious binoc's are Nikon Monarch 8.5X56, in
    my daypack live some Minolta 8X25 pocket bino's.
    I've never had good acuity w/glass much over 8X
    'cause I just can't hold 'em still w/out great effort or
    a leanin' post.

    Norm
     
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    I've been using Nikon Monarch 8X42 binoculars for deer hunting (and bird watching) for about ten years; never tried using a monocular.
     
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    I have one pair and it is 12x I don't see the point in the lower magnification binos (but I have great vision). I am curious to try a monocular as I hate carrying binos.
     
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    7x50 marine binoculars, coated lens and Individual Focus, low light gathering is paramount since I spend a lot of time on the water and star gazing.
     
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    I have several pairs of binoculars. I have used Aimpoint 8X40 roof prism with individual ocular focus for about 30 years. They have hunted all over the Rockies and have given stellar performance.
    I decided I needed 10X40's and retired the Aimpoints to Bird watching and now have 10X40 Steiners which I have not had out hunting yet but am impressed with how bright and clear they are.
    I keep a Vortex Solo 8X25 monocular in my Filson Shooting bag (Murse) that I take to work for scoping out bad guys and such... it is great.
    But for sustained glassing in a hunting scenario...and hunting is 90% glassing 1% shooting... and the other 9% field dressing,. The eye strain from inexpensive lenses isn't worth the savings and the skinny is, if you don't spot them you can't shoot them.

    Griz
     
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    Same here.
     
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    Being legally blind in one eye I've never been able to use binocs very well and usually have to close the bad eye. I'd love to try a minoc sometime to see how well it would work for me.
     
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    Ive got a pair of medium/small Bushnell 16x32 that are pretty nice. I mean they arent high dollar but they work pretty good. I got them from walmart on sale for $19 so I was stoked.
     
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    I have 2 minoculars and a several binoculars. I think the most Important thing about optics is that you generally get what you pay for. Buy the best you can afford. As for monocular they are very convenient for quickly looking at distant objects. They are usually small and light and can usually fit in a pocket. I wouldn't go over 8x. Anything more is too much and hard to steady. The field of view is small compared to binoculars and they aren't great for long term use. Binos can be small or large, are better for long sessions of classing field of view is much larger. That being said I use both, it just doesn't depends on what I am doing. My Leica monocular gets a lot of use throughout the year but when hunting season rolls around I switch to my 10x50 ultravids because they excel at long term glassing. For monoculars, don't go too small. My Zeiss miniquick is pretty limiting. It's almost too small. Good luck.
     
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    can we please god start spelling 'monocular' correctly
     
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    What fun is that?
     
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    I can't see well out of both eyes through binoculars either and this is why I wanted a monocular to begin with. I haven't spent extended periods "glassing" with it and given its small size, can see where a larger scope would be better if that was going to be my primary usage.
     
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    Monocular, my eyes have never been able to resolve binoculars properly.
     
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    Optolyth makes a nice monocular....on the pricier end but lower than Leica and Zeiss. I have Optolyth binoculars, high quality german glass and workmanship.
     
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    Have you tried I.F. (individual focus) binoculars in lieu of center knob focusing type binocs?
     
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    Yes, it has always seemed to me to be more trouble than it's worth - one eye is so much more dominant than the other, I really have to work at it. For me, the monocular is so much quicker and easier.
     
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    Old Post, on a " GREAT " Binos, with " I.F " :dblthumb:

    https://bushcraftusa.com/forum/threads/great-deal-on-steiner-binos.197147/#post-3359902

    I've been afflicted with " Bells Palsey " for about ten years, which has blurred my " Vision " in both eyes.:22:

    I'm right eye dominate & have been pondering over getting myself a " Moderate Powered " ( 7x ) Monocular.

    I.E: Minox 7X
    https://www.amazon.com/Minox-MD-Mon...qid=1518287585&sr=1-3&keywords=7x42+monocular

    Another consideration ..:33:

    HUMMINGBIRD 7-22X50 MM ED MICRO SPOTTING SCOPE
    https://www.amazon.com/Celestron-Hu...+hummingbird+7-22x50+med+micro+spotting+scope

    EDIT: Just an additional " FYI "

    The below " Binocular " article, explains a few techie details, which applies to all optics. :dblthumb:

    https://www.tractoptics.com/blog/8x-versus-10x-binoculars

     
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    I own an older Bushnell Broadfield monocular . But haven't taken it to the field . I actually started a thread questioning the quality of them . All I know is what's printed on them .
     
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    Id like to get a $100+ or so set of Nikpns or something. I dont use them often enough to justify getting a more expensive pair.

    I guess my main problem with low power is that they don't see far enough to do much good. I guess I want spotting scope quality but then like has been mentioned, they get shakey.
     
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    And.. The Higher power you go XXX .. Larger light gathering lenses (objectives) are needed for " Low Light " conditions. :22:

    The gold standard used to be " 7 x 50 ": Reasonably Stabile & Clear View, in Low Light Conditions.
    (Light Gathering Ability / Twilight Factor).

    https://www.astronomics.com/binocular-specifications_t.aspx
     
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    [QUOTE="PERRO, post: 3713528, member: 44978"
    The gold standard used to be " 7 x 50 ": Reasonably Stabile & Clear View, in Low Light Conditions.
    (Light Gathering Ability / Twilight Factor).

    https://www.astronomics.com/binocular-specifications_t.aspx[/QUOTE]

    7x50 I.F. Steiners are the standard for marine use and my go to for checking out my back fields for 2 and 4 legged critters during morning and evening twilight but for most to large and heavy for general bushcraft/backpacking use.
     
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    So good glass is important and expensive. It would seem as though a monocular would be half the price so you could afford better quality. Enlighten a novice.
     
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    I only own two pairs, 10x42 Nikon Monarch ATBs and an 8x pair of compact Bushnells. Even though they are larger and bulkier, I use the 10x42s almost exclusively, since they are so much clearer and gather so much more light than the compacts. Since all the monoculars I've seen are the size of compacts, I don't think I'd find any use for them.
     
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    I say, used to be " 7x 50 " ....Today, many companies are now using better quality optics..Quote: ED lens ( Extra-Low Dispersion Objective Lens ) provides sharp, clear images with vivid, well-managed color ".

    And, Multi Coatings on all Lenses, are better & more affordable today.

    I also have a pair of " Steiners 7x 50 " :3:
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    https://bushcraftusa.com/forum/threads/great-deal-on-steiner-binos.197147/#post-3360177

    That would be a pretty good conclusion :3:

    I.E: Minox 7X 42
    Price: $168.49 & FREE Shipping. Details
    https://www.amazon.com/Minox-MD-Mon...qid=1518287585&sr=1-3&keywords=7x42+monocular[/QUOTE]
     
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    Minox has a rep for quality glass, and 7 X 42 beats the 10 X 20 leica or the 10 X 28 optolyths in my book, at cheaper cost also...

    I put this on my amazon list until after tax time.....
     
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    I've also put them on my " Wish List "..

    HINT: The Cost will somtimes fluctuate over time on Amazon...?
    If you put it on your " Wish List " .. AMAZON, will send you an email notifying you of a " Sale / Price Drop " :3:
     
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    Binos. I use 10x42 Bushnells, but I'm also a birder. I would stay away from anything like 10x25s. You want the ratio between the two numbers to be 1:4 or 1:5, etc., not 1:3 or less.
     
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    I have a couple pairs of Leopold binoculars I have used for years, with excellent performance. 8x30 Yosemite and 10x32 Tioga are the models.

    About the last year I have been using a Sig Sauer Oscar3 digitally stabilized spotting scope. 10-20x and a clear picture when held in a steady hand. It does require a battery and electronics for a stable view at high magnification, a potential weakness, but so far so good. I keep an extra battery in the case and binoculars in the truck just in case.
     
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    I've got a few binoculars. I never use the lower magnification anymore. I use a Celestron skymaster 25x100. At almost 9 pounds it's very difficult to hold with your hands for any extended period of time. I always use a tripod and they always go with me when I travel. It's pretty funny being at a location with one of those pay-per-view scopes people plop a quarter into. I pull my binoculars out and usually get a lot of double takes.
     
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    Vortex mono for packing light. Vortex binos for when I'm not worried about weight.
     
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    Just received the below info today. (WOW :eek: I can still post Photos ).

    Best New Hunting Binoculars From SHOT Show 2018
    Top choices in 2018's new hunting binocs.
    Posted 24 hours ago in Hunting, Optics by Russ Chastain with Be the first to comment!


    Steiner ShadowQuest


    " Steiner ShadowQuest 8×56
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    If you demand quality and your pockets are deep enough, Steiner makes some of the best hunting glass there is. And for low-light glassing, the new ShadowQuest looks pretty dang good, rated at 96%+ light transmission.

    Available in 56 (MSRP $1090) or 10×56 (MSRP $1150), they are sizable and impressive. Steiner even calls it “the ultimate optic for low-light hunting.” And once you focus each eyepiece to each of your eyes, the “Sports-Auto-Focus” system automagically focuses anything from 20 yards out to infinity

    The new Shadowquest binoculars deliver the industry’s highest light gathering optics to find and identify game in low light. Steiner’s Diamond Night™ lens coatings increase your odds for success "

    http://www.alloutdoor.com/2018/02/13/best-new-hunting-binoculars-shot-show-2018/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed:+Alloutdoorcom+(AllOutdoor.com)
     
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    Binoculars! 10x50! I fancy myself a western hunter. So I bought the rolls Royce of glass.

    A distant earth colored deer is tough to spot!
     
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    I have tried monoculars but felt like there was more eye strain for me compared to binos.

    I have become a fan of porro prism binoculars. For trying to spot an animal in the woods they seem to work better as I do not have to constantly refocus as I felt I was always doing with my roof prism binos. The images through the porro prism almost feels 3d at times as there is more depth to the viewing plane.

    I have been using Vortex Raptors in the 6.5x32 configuration for 3 hunting seasons now and have no plans of changing.
     
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    No real point in the eastern woodlands in my opinion, i just use a range finder to get my distance. I have also gone from 30-06 to 7.69x54r to 30-30 where i am at now when i don't use crossbow or bow.
     
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    I have a set of wingspan. 8 X 32 I have been using for about a year, before I had Bushnell, Weaver. I like the wingspans pretty good. They are compact, great field glasses for what I use them for. Bird watching, boating, Hunting. I do like Binoculars better though. [​IMG]
     
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    I have a mono in my kit all the time. I do like binoculars as well and have a couple of different pair that I’ll pick from based on what I plan to do.

    I do have a pair of low powered ones that I like very much, especially for hunting in mixed terrain. I’ll scan from inside a tree line out into a field before breaking my cover just to see what might be out there. I’ll do the same going into a tree line from a field again to find the best way in if there is one that might let me slip in with less noise and motion than another for instance. The low power ones are nice for squirrel hunting too, I can scan a tree for movement and see a lot of the tree at once with the wide field of vision low power glass offers. They excel anytime I’m inside the tree line, and looking at a big body of water for rises or other feeding activity.

    Game laws that do not care if you take a male or female (like squirrels and coyotes) you don’t need to sex them before shooting so a low power glass to find them is all I need. Trophy hunting then yes, I’d like to check one set of antlers against another’s before shooting that’s a job a higher powered glass does much better. Deciding if a herd has a worthy male or two in it before stalking is another high power glass task.
     

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