Blackout in New York City

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  1. DixiePreparedness

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    looks like they blew a transformer and are out of power in a big chunk of NYC.

    People stuck in subways and elevators.
    Credit card machines no worky

    Balmy 80 degrees giving them fits and reported as “extreme heat”.
    (LOL.. 80 degrees)

    Emergency operations in progress
    Streets devoid of cars
    Uber charging 4X normal fares
    Press conference upcoming

    It is MAYHEM I tell ya.... just MAYHEM ....

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    Okay, I’m over it now.

    Back to coverage of the little whirly storm on The Weather Channel.
     
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    If I lost power in heat like that I might drown in my own sweat. :confused:
     
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    Bet those city dwellers wish they had a flashlight and some sensible shoes about now
     
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    Whoa! I didn't even know this was happening and I'm in NYC.
    Sitting in my apartment with no AC mind you.
     
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    I have several flashlights and all my shoes are sensible.
     
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    I bought new shoes just the other day. Oddly enough, they match my grey/orange Benchmade folder. :confused:
     
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    I was stuck there overnight for this one affecting 55 million people in 8 states and parts of Canada. :17:

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    I remember that one, it was nuts. I got stuck in Manhattan right after work and could not get back to the Bronx for 24hrs.
     
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    Did you at least have a comfortable place to sleep?
     
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    Yup.

    A great example of the old Boy Scout motto.

    How many of those stuck in the subways wish they had a small flashlight as part of their EDC?
     
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    I spent a couple of hours nodding off in a chair at my shop. But before that the whole town was hopping.
    Me and a coworker hit some of the bars in the Union Square area, they where all selling beers at half price because they were losing there chill.
    After doing that for a while I stumbled back to my shop which was closed of course but I had the key. Just me and the mice for the night.
     
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    Yep. I always have mine.
     
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    I was at Pittsburgh airport trying to fly back to Newark when that one hit. It was surreal. Finally made it back after midnight. Credit card machines in the parking garage weren't working so they had to break out ye olde slide imprint machines with the carbon paper. The 45 minute drive home from the airport was pitch black. Luckily I had a half tank of gas because all of the gas station pumps were out of commission.
     
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    Many folks I know would just get by using their cell phone screen as a light.
     
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    This is exactly 42 years after the Blackout of '77.
     
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    Gonna be a whole bunch of babies born is 9 ish or so months....
     
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    If its 80 degrees in the city, it could be quite a bit warmer stuck in a subway car. I feel sick even thinking about it. Id be prepared, but gross. I feel bad for folks born and raised there who don't know fresh air.
     
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    Definitely worth the watch, if you've got the time...
     
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    That was a great show.
     
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    What’s so funny about people stuck in elevators and trains. People at home on respirators not being able to breath right. What’s so funny about trying to evacuate thousands of people from Madison Square Garden and other theaters so people don’t get hurt. Ambulances not getting to where they have to go because the traffic lights are out and they are sitting in massive traffic.
     
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    When the electricity goes off due to a hurricane, I break out the hobo stove, brew some coffee and become a hero on my block. Except for places you might be stuck and medical devices you might need, bushcrafters are better prepared than most.
     
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    Human nature at its finest.
     
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    Friend of mine was a few blocks from the towers on 9/11. Walked home to Stamford CT. He had good shoes but I remember seeing huge mounds of dress shoes (mostly women's)

    "But my cell phone has a light..."

    It may only be 80. But its gonna be HOT. Elevators, subways, tall buildings.

    Imagine being stuck in a train car 50ft underground with 100s of people.

    Hope they get this under control. And everyone comes out alright.

    I agree with @operatord It saddens me that we(collectively as a nation not individually) are always pointing and laughing at our fellow humans. Not stopping and helping.

    Earthquake in Cali "Maybe it'll finally break off and I can have my waterfront AZ property"

    Hurricane in Fla " Maybe it'll break off and keep the crazies contained"

    Nuclear meltdown in Russia and NorthEast. " die you commie bastards"

    Etc, etc etc.
    We are divided on every little thing. To the point people will physically harm each other over sports!!
    This is why we get nothing done. We are so busy pointing, fighting and criticizing others. That those in power sit back, dangle the shiny ball with one hand and do whatever they want with the other.


    Eta. This is why I cut out almost all media. We are being played like puppets. And the more I see the less I want to see.
    Ignorance truely was bliss.

    Etaa. Power went back on for them last night.
     
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    Most modern cell phones have a flashlight function that turns on the "camera flash" LED on the back of the phone. It's surprisingly bright and perfectly adequate for navigating in the dark. There have been many times I've been sitting on my deck in the pitch black with nothing but my cell phone and a beer when my dogs go nuts, and I've had no issue using my cell phone's flashlight mode to illuminate whatever they were chasing 30-40 yards out.
     
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    I lived in New York during the power outage of 2003. That was an eye opening experience. When I moved to Atlanta in 2004 I realized that the water company pumping station was electric powered. Sure enough a couple of years later a storm took out the transformer and no power or water for a week. Fortunately, one of my first projects was to install a fish pond. I was able to use it for drinking water and flushing toilets. Live and learn.
     
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    Agree 100%.

    I saw so many comments online last night like "those city dwellers are screwed, how are they going to survive this" and "has the looting started yet?". The reality was that plenty of ordinary people sprang into action to help direct traffic at dangerous intersections, people helped each other out of subways and buildings, entire Broadway acts moved out of the theatres when the lights went out and continued their performance for audiences in the streets, etc. Not to mention the thousands of ordinary people who work for the electric company and worked round the clock to get power restored in record time.
     
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    I was over in the Alphabet City area last night when it happened - nobody around me knew because we were not affected. Folks milling around and digging the scene like usual.

    Meanwhile, I’m calmly doing “math” in my head in case it was not a “routine blackout”, figuring out how much gas is in the car, route to get home quickly across the bridge to Brooklyn, how my wife is going to walk with her heels on... :D
     
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    Sounds unimpressive but Manhattan does not handle heat well at all.

    Plus it's gonna smell even worse now.
     
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    I remember the Blackout of 1965. Now THAT was a blackout. My family wasn’t affected as we lived in Hamilton County
    Tennessee at that time and were well served by the TVA. It was blamed on everything from an aging electrical grid to UFOs. That year was also one of the biggest UFO flaps in US history. From Exeter, NH to South America, there were sightings everywhere. Interesting times.....
     
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    It was caused by Elon Musk dropping in to recharge his latest Space X prototype.
     
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    At first “they” said a transformer blew.

    It doesn’t make sense that this was fixed within 5 hours. Where’s the footage of smoke and fire.

    Something is fishy...

    These days, I pretty much always go with the notion that “news” is used for the purpose of misdirection.
     
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    I wonder if the blackout area was large enough to allow them to actually see stars overhead.:33:
     
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    (Rolls eyes)
    A power outages happens all the time all over the US. . I could give a flip about NYC. Non-news.
     
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    That's like 35 miles, a multi-day effort for me. He didn't have to walk it for 9/11 as transport was available/moving outside of Manhattan island, and they lifted the lockdown before nightfall anyway. I took MetroNorth home following serious delays - not fun, but sure beats that walk. I watched the Towers fall down live from 23rd street... I actually used to work on the 101st floor of One WTC in the 80s, and knew someone that perished above the fire levels.

    After 9/11, I kept a GHB in my desk.... incl. a set of Rollerblades to cut the potential walk in half. Yup that city has defined my level of preparedness - the woods are a piece of cake in comparison. HERE's my multi-tiered bug out plan (half serious/messing around)... did I mention I hate walking? :4:
     
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    How will they charge their iphones and tablets? What about electric cars? They'll think the world is ending.

    I think the scariest thing would be lack of power to sewage pumps.:26:
     
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    I'd never want to be in any city like that. I feel the problems of getting out ok, or just waiting it out would be a huge pia. I can't really say though,as I've never spent any time in NYC, and usually just passed thru any others. Can't remember last time I've stayed over night in a big giant city. Much prefer to experience a major power outage away from a mass of people like that. No way I'd want to get stuck in that.
     
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    Not laughing at anyone. Being in any large city during a power outage or major natural disaster is a dangerous, even life threatening experience.

    Think about for a minute, and look around at population density. An hour or two is disruptive, but the impact goes up almost exponentially with time.

    Power out means dark streets, no signal lights, no elevators, possible loss of water pressure, loss of AC and loss of refrigeration for food. It means a lot of people lose the ability to cook food. It means loss of communication on a growing basis, how many will have a charged cell phone after 24 hours?
    Three days without power, food will be critical for many, water may be as well. Emergency services and law enforcement dispatch will be very crippled.
    If people start trying to evacuate there will be local grid lock and confusion , likely to be major fuel shortage.
    It does not look good to those involved, and many of us will have friends and family in the area affected.

    Not much humor in the issue when we think about it.
     
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    Thats why choosing where you live is important.
     
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    Another disturbing aspect of a prolonged outage is that things like security cameras, GPS ankle trackers, etc. have very limited UPS battery life without AC voltage.
     
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    I am guessing that it might be cyber warfare. There have been some mighty big power outages in different countries around the world recently. Maybe it's just coincidence, or maybe there's more to it...
     
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    Sadly, from the perspective of this electrician, our power grid is low hanging fruit, easily disrupted with little effort.
    That being said, I have no problem with the explanation that a transformer vault failed catastrophically. Very plausible.
     
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    Maybe you guys are correct.
    Not “hilarious” at all when you factor in actual death or serious harm.

    But a “power outage”, on a non-workday, in an SMALL PART of a city.... well.... that is NOT a dire emergency. Nor was it a disaster for anyone.
    .... as was evidenced by the outcome.


    But ya gotta also see it from outside those insignificantly small areas of our continental land mass to fully understand my mirth.

    Try this....
    You see the guy walking cockily and slowly toward the edge of the pool, while looking over his shoulder making witty comments toward someone, and even though you KNOW what is about to happen “might” be physically bad for him...... you STILL laugh your butt off when he makes that last fateful step off the edge.

    Large populations in tiny areas of this Nation believe they are superior to us in “flyover land”.
    Failed ideals and beliefs cause them their own problems.
    They refuse to listen to anything from without their cesspools.

    And their narcissistic self-importance BEGS AND PLEADS for the belly laugh and “I told ya sos” when things go wrong.
    I/We just oblige their pleas when we can.
     
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