Bob Marshall Open 2019- it's on!

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  1. mtwarden

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    yup- 31 lbs- not terrible, but not light either :); I'm afraid there is no delaying the start- a few folks coming from a long distance and flying in
     
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    Best of luck, looking forward to the report.
     
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    I always enjoy your posts related to this, gear or otherwise. Good luck and have fun.
     
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    I'm wishing you good luck and you be careful.
     
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    thanks for all the well wishes folks!

    food packed and ready to go- ~ 3500 calories/day with some reserve built in if I can't finish in three days

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    Are those bagel-and-bacon sammiches? I'd love to see what you bring food wise for something like this.
     
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    @mtwarden keep forgetting to ask. What time frame are looking at for 30miles a day?
     
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    they will be long days for sure; we don't start until 8:00 AM on Saturday and hoping to get close to 30 that day- probably into the headlamp is my guess w/ all the snow. Will start closer to 6:00 AM on Sunday/Monday and stays light until 9-ish, might have to go later???? anyways probably looking at 14-16 hour days, maybe even a longer push Monday if getting close
     
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    My best to you on this baby.......it dont sound like no cakewalk. Take care of yourself, eh?

    :dblthumb:
     
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    Good luck today/this weekend Mike!
     
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    Anyone know his progress?
     
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    As is usual for NW Montana during Memorial weekend it has been rainy and cold. The Contintal divide has been hammered with rain and snow at higher elevations the last couple days.
     
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    Ive seen more rain in May in Helena than I can remember......more flooding also. It dont look normal to me...............like a monsoon season this year

    yo
     
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    Oh man,memories galore here.I took a pack trip on horse back into the Bob back in 1999 for ten days.Had to skirt around the fires to get to a safe area but what a beautiful backyard for the ranchers who live out there.
     
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    According to the InReach link on page 1 it looks like he's on the last few miles of mostly downhill to the finish.
     
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    Looks like he finished?
     
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    Probably on a B-line to a Burger & a Beer....LOL
     
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    I would have finished alot faster -- the medevac chopper would be quick.
     
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    Can’t wait to hear how it was!
     
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    Ditto!!!

    i've been following him on his tracker while i was remodeling a bathroom this weekend..... while the remodel is fun i still wish i was out there with him
     
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    I’m living vicariously through him. I’ll be lucky if I ever get up to the Bob, let alone do the open.
     
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    i am too right now and i'd be lucky to do the open.... maybe one year it's on my bucket list. i'm making it a priority to get to the bob as soon as i can, which realistically might not be till next year or a few down the road..... but i'm not giving up on it!!
     
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    thanks for all the well wishes and am happy to report I made it to the finish (5:00 PM Monday- 57 hours), the route was 91 miles total; weather was horrific for much of the trip, several sketchy fords (but made it across the Middle Fork of the Flathead w/o having to swim-barely!!!!) and yet a beautiful outing by any standard

    I'm very foot sore, but in the scheme of things appears to be mostly unscathed (knock on wood)

    full report to follow

    and btw, yes we made a beeline to for large burgers and beer :D
     
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    Congrats Mtwarden!

    Regards,

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    looking forward to this read for sure....bet the burger and beer were fantastic....
     
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    Congratulations! You’re a freakin’ beast!!!

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    Congratulations !!

    Looking forward to the details.
     
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    This guy's an animal. I share Mtwarden's interest in ultralight, but otherwise our reasons couldn't be more different - my motivation is LAZINESS! 91 miles? sure - just give me 10 days. In that weather... NFW! :4:

    Congrats Mtwarden - superhuman feat in my eyes.:dblthumb:
     
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    Glückwunsch! I kept checking the inreach page too : ). Can't wait for the full report.
     
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    Congratulations! You are amazing. Can't wait for the details.
     
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    Congratulations! Looking forward to the details.
     
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    full trip report here, cliff note version- tough, but good :)

    https://bushcraftusa.com/forum/threads/the-bob-marshall-wilderness-open-2019.251535/

    I will discuss a little about how gear/clothing worked out; I did something a little crazy about ten minutes before I was out the door- USPS dropped a box off with a new shelter (Tarptent Aeon Li) that I wasn't expecting until next month- I broke it out, looked at the instructions, set it up in the backyard and said screw it- going to bring it with in lieu of my tent, thankfully it worked really well :)

    we had a lot of bad weather this trip, worse than any previous year so got to really test out some of my wet weather gear

    I've packed Hydroskin (thin neoprene) socks almost every year, but never had the need to try them- this year I wore them at least half the trip; I pair them with a very thin merino sock, think dress sock thin

    I'm happy to report they definitely kept my wet feet warmer than just wool socks AND I never developed a hot spot with them- one of my biggest concerns with them

    no real use in general hiking, unless you're going to be experiencing cold and wet conditions

    with all the moisture I was really glad to have several synthetic pieces including my quilt- a MLD Spirit 28 made w/ Apex insulation, my puffy jacket was also Apex as well as my sleep hat- all performed great despite some dampness

    I made a tactical error on day one when we hit rain up high, I did grab my hardshell, but neglected to put on my rain paints thinking it would pass quickly, well it didn't and my pants soaked through entirely and I got really chilled unless I was moving quickly; the next day they were donned right away with the rain- made a huge difference

    both the hardshell and pants are lightweight affairs (jacket is a Rab Flashpoint, pants Montbell Versalite) and never used either of them in sustained rain and was a little nervous about their performance in such, they worked fine I'm happy to report; the pants would be much better if they had side zips on them to get them over shoes/boots w/o having to take them off

    eVent rain mitts from MLD- these (rain mitts) are a necessity in cold, wet conditions- your fingers go from feeling fine in the rain to can't tighten your laces quickly

    my Anger 10,000 charger was superb- it charged both my iPhone and inReach daily and still had a ton of juice left- I could probably use a smaller one in reality

    the MSR Shift youth snowshoes rocked it this year, all four of use were using them and in spring conditions it's all the shoe you need (we snowshoed more this year than any previous year- probably in the 20-ish mile range)- good bindings, good traction, lightweight

    all in all, I felt my clothing and gear were pretty well dialed in for such challenging conditions
     
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    Awesome, @mtwarden! I'm in Bozeman, would love to do the Bob Ward Open someday if I live long enough (and physically last long enough). I have some vacation coming up, contemplating the Bob Ward, Glacier or ???
     
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    if you go Bob Marshall I could probably help you out w/ a route :)
     
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    That would be great @mtwarden. I'm not positive yet when I'll be going, if I do. I'm a chef; my sous chef is on vacation now, and hopefully when he's back the stars will align and I'll be able to go.

    Bear in mind too that I am a much less fit and capable hiker than you!:8: I'm a pudgy chef!:p
     
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    Heya,

    Was wondering if you could reflect a bit on the Victorinox Walker you carried and compare it to other sub-2 oz options.

    In particular, could you ruminate on the Walker vs a small multitool like the PS4 Squirt.

    Seems to me the trade off is firemaking bs gear repair. Not debating but wondering how you have dealt with a jammed zipper or busted pack strap.
     
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    the Wallker was the lightest format that gave me a saw blade; when I bring snowshoes (which thus far have every year) I bring a few spare parts for the snowshoes, stainless wire and a few other bits that might help w/ a repair- in the repair kit goes a PS4 :)

    if I don't have snowshoes, my repair kit weighs under an ounce- a length of gorilla tape, couple of safety pins, needle/thread(which is actually dyneema fishing line) and some Tenacious Tape (repair holes in jackets, inflatable pad, etc0
     
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    Oh my!!!

    I missed the Squirt on your packing list!!!

    Some answers are both/and, not either/or.

    I wasn't aware of the Walker. It's on my "try it out" list now. Thanks!
     
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    Having access to both tools, I can see the use for the PS4 for repairing snow shoes or similar. But I've got to ask what the use of the saw is on a trip like this? Both my sons have Walkers and I've got a Farmer. They are excellent little saws, but limited to craft tasks where a saw makes cutting a nice notch easier or similar but not much else due to the size IME.
     
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    the Walker is pretty nice (and light); I’m going to try and get a working awl out of the opener

    @MJGEGB

    it was on my person (via a lanyard), along with my compass in the other pocket, in my cargo pocket went my iPhone and the other a heatsheet poncho, small fire kit and ~ 15’ of small cord

    all part of my “last ditch kit” if I was separated from my pack

    the saw is for cutting fir/spruce limbs for insulation under and to layer over a debris shelter

    the little SAK saw makes very short work of those; would be handy too with small standing dead stuff- score it just enough to ease tipping them over
     
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    Congrats to you, mtwarden, looks like all is well - a great trip by any standard. Good job sir!
     
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    Gotcha, just a different approach. I've been messing with sub 2 oz fixed blades. They would also make quick work of the described tasks cutting a V at 45° angles. Though obviously we don't have the fir and spruce limbs around. Hopefully I'll have a stainless version in the future as that is one thing I love about my Victorinox knives, no stress about them rusting.
     
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    Do you find the Walker to be enough for emergency fire making? Is the handle big enough to allow the control to make shavings? (I strongly suspect yes.) Is the saw enough to section wood in your region? (I'm guessing it limits you to a score the wood then bust teh wood type of approach?) Do you need to split wood in your region and if so, what's your approach?

    My question/interest in the Walker is prompted by me packing up for this weekend's overnight trip to NH (which is embarrassingly pedestrian in the context of this thread, just sayin'). The location I'm headed could tolerate a folding stove sized fire so I'm considering taking the Emberlit, which then begs the question of fire making tools (which differ from region to region).

    I generally carry a Squirt (repair/first aid) and an Opinel for 3 season hiking. I don't rely on fires nor shelter building, so the use of the small saw for delimbing boughs isn't one I had thought of. Makes sense though.

    When carrying the Emberlit, I typically carry a Mora Companion (3.7 0z) and an Opinel saw (3 oz). These reliably handle the wood I encounter in New England when feeding that stove, but I would dearly love to cut that weight in half if possible. I could swap the Companion for an Opinel 9 (2 oz). But the weight savings potential of the Walker is really something.
     
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    obviously a larger knife (and saw) would out do what the Walker has to offer, but saying that I’m confident I could get a fire going (and a rudimentary shelter) up if need be.

    makes nice shavings, again I have knives that make ones better

    not sure if I mentioned it, but the toothpick was replaced with a small ferro rod; I wasn’t expecting too much out of it due to its size, but was pleasantly surprised how much spark it put out (of course I have a mini Bic and another sparker to fall back on as well)

    if I were needing to split wood, I’ve had decent luck with sawing halfway through a piece and then whacking it against something hard

    as inexpensive as the Walker is, I say worth a shot :)
     
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