Buck 110 alternative

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  1. Redneck Bear

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    Hi, I'm looking for a Buck 110 design, but with easier sharpening (I like AUS8, for example, from my RAT1) and with wooden-style micarta (less maintenance). I thought Ganzo made one but I guess I was mistaken. Any tips, please?
     
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    The Case Mako looks alot like the Buck 110. I'm not certain of the steel, it's called Case 'Tru-Sharp' I think it's equal to a 420HC. I am trying to get more knowledgeable about steel, have a long ways to go, but I think AUS8 is better. I do like the Case folders though.
     
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    Hey, check out the Buck 110 LT is only about $32 including shipping from Amazon. The 420 HC is good steel and easily sharpened in the field. It only weighs a little over 3 ounces. A great value for a great knife.
    YMMV
     
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    Hey Brother, modern standard Buck 110's are made with 420 HC; as easy or easier to sharpen as compared to AUS- 8. Fit and finish on Buck knives is usually better than their imitators and Buck uses a superior heat treat designed by Paul Bos.
    Victor
     
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    Buck 110's can be had with carbon steel and even drop points instead of clips. Maybe those would suit?
     
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    Schrade knives have the Bear paw
     
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    Seems to me the newer Bucks sharpen easier than the old ones.
     
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    Use a diamond stone. You won't have any problem.
     
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    A.G. Russell lockbacks

    Enzo Borka 90

    Cold Steel Working Man

    Puma makes a handful of lockback knives.

    Or get a buck 110 with nickel silver bolsters and micarta or G10 scales. Buck also has Paperstone or Dymawood.
     
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    I'll also mention the Buck 110 or the slightly smaller 112 in 5160. It is much easier to sharpen and will get a nice patina (but can rust so it needs some care). If you know you like the Buck, just stick with it in a different steel. I prefer carbon steels so 5160 is perfect for me.
     
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    Yep. A diamond stone will make life much easier when sharpening old buck knives. Get a good bench stone and not something that looks like a small flat stick.
     
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    Thank you all for your tips and ideas. :)

    I just want to say that whan I said that I like the design of Buck 110 I didn't mean just the clip point blade and backlock, but also the wooden handles look (that's why I wanted a wooden-style micarta handles). So, basically something that looks like Buck 110 ... but is not. Lol. The Case Mako Lockback looks very nice.

    Anyway, I was afraid of sharpenning the Buck 420 steel. But as you bushpeople say it's not that hard I guess I'll reconsider the Buck itself as well.

    Thank you all! :)
     
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    Isn't the Mako the same size as the 112, and the Sharktooth the 110 size?
     
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    I picked up an old US made Sharade 7-ot old timer in carbon steel on ebay for 12 bucks. Pretty similar to the 110.
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    The 7OT, once you find one, will prove right easy to sharpen, and will take a hair popping edge if such is your skill set. It will assuredly rust and tarnish. Edgeholding is not aces, but while it lasts it can be astonishingly sharp.
     
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    The 7OT looks very nice, thank you for pointing me in that direction (I know that the Old timers exist but I thought that they are all in the style of the Buzzsaw Trapper I've been looking into some time ago). Also the LB7 looks nice. Either of these knives can be ordered here for roughly USD 35 including postage so I'll probably get one of them (any significant difference between those, pls?).

    BTW my mom got as a gift the knife on pictures. I personally think it's probably just some generic Chinese knife ... but it's suprisingly well built, I can make it hair-shaving sharp and the retention is not bad (I've been using it in the woods when walking my dog - cutting, making notches, no batoning). The only thing it's written on it is STAINLESS on the left side of the blade. I don't know what the steel or the handle material is ... Any idea what is it (supposed to be)?

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    big fan of sodbusters - I tend to stick to the jr's but a full size might suit you
     
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    I have yet to actually sharpen my 110 even after repeated use. I just make a couple passes on a “sharpening” steel, which just aligns the edge or I strop it a bit. Great knife! Wish I had the lite version, but the classic version is very cool too.
     
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    I just bought the lite version. I don't know what it is, but it doesn't sharpen as well as the Ol Classic. FYI
     
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    Copper and Clad also has aluminum 110s, good looking knife half the weight.
     
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    I have two Buck 110’s one from a trade and the other gifted to me by @Bryan King. A Buck 110 is my absolute favorite big folder.
    But if I had to sub a Buck 110 it would be a KaBar 1184. I robbed this pic from eBay. DAF299A8-569C-4DFA-BB56-05EFA7854D85.jpeg
     
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    So, after revisiting this thread and reading all the comments, is there really a good alternative to the original 110? I'm thinking no, the alternatives seem to be knockoffs with +/-similar steel. Why not just stick with the original? The price is good, it's been around 50+ years (actually as long as I have been - Est. 1963) , and it's one of my favorites! so a bit of bias there. :)
     
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    The best alternative to a Buck 110 is a Buck 112. Same great performance smaller package.
     
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    I think that difference between the 7-0t and the LB7 is the scales, but I don't know that for a fact. The old USA made Schrade knives that are stamped "Schrade+" are stainless steel, the ones stamped "Schrade" are carbon. I haven't owned any of the Chinese made Schrades, but i have a bias against Chinese tools. This is just me but I would rather spend 1/2 as much on a used USA Scharade and have to sharpen it when I received it than 2x as much on a Chinese one.

    Buck builds good knives. My brother EDC a 112 for a long time. If you haven't had the 110 and 112 in hand I suggest you take look at them in a store so you can see the size difference. The 110s (and the 7-ot) are pretty big.
     
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    In the Ellenville NY era, the LB7 had a stainless blade, and the 7OT a carbon steel blade. Best I recall 440C on the former and 1095 on the latter. They ran both a might soft in the 80s.
     
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    All info I can find now is "stainless steel" - both knives.
     
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    Are Buck 110s readily available in the Czech Republic?
     
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    Yeah, I think you have to go vintage if you want a carbon steel one.
     
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    Certain, usually the higher models (like the Buck 110 with "Buck" inlay) are; but the common 110s are not - those are usually sold on knife forums.

    I could get one from Knifecenter with no problems though (within a week, unless our customs has a say in it - last time they wanted my statement that a leather sheath I bought for the Tracker I've got from you is not for further sale :) ).
     
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    PC020242.JPG Hey Brother, if you're going with vintage Schrade be sure to check the tang stamps. Current Schrade is Chinese made in stainless only, usually 7cr17, fit and finish is not as good as USA made knives. Prior to 2004, Schrade Oldtimer and Uncle henry knives were USA made of 1095 carbon or 440a stainless. These knives will be clearly stamped USA. Stainless knives are stamped SCHRADE+ and carbon knives are stamped SCHRADE. While it is most common that Oldtimer was carbon and Uncle henry was stainless, it's not unusual or rare to find carbon Uncle henrys or stainless Oldtimers. Let the tang stamps be your guide.
    From the top, the first and second knives are carbon, the third and fourth are stainless.
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    I advice you to choose 14c28n steel instead of AUS8 , its better in every way
     
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    The Peak by Manly is almost identical to the 110 in size, but more modern looking, more steel and scale options and they ship quickly.

    I have about 100 quality knives but my Manly knives get carried a ton.
     
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    I have a 112, I believe I got it about 6 or 8 years ago and it quickly became one of my favorite knives for general purpose use and field dressing and skinning my last deer. I have no idea what steel it has, i didnt know Buck used different steels. Its not at all difficult to sharpen with an EZE-Lap diamond hone, the round one with brass handle. its almost the only sharpener I use for anything now. My stainless Randall made knife has always been the toughest knife Ive owned to sharpen, the EZE-Lap made it simple. Highly recommend the EZE-Lap for all around use. its quite possible to re-set a bevel with it. Wipe it down to clean it as its used, i use paper towels. They eventually wear down, or perhaps the base material the abrasive is mounted to, I use the older ones for finer edges and softer knives, the fresh ones for the Randall and my truck and camp gear.


    Best investment I ever made in knife sharpening or use.

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    Check out the Ka-Bar folding hunter - it is basically the buck 110 design made with 5Cr15 stainlees steel and G10 handles - all for $25.!!!!
    Can't really go wrong!! I own one and love it as an EDC.
    FYI - It is made in China though . . .
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    Must be good knives manly is sold out
     
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    If you're having trouble sharpening their 420HC, you'll have even harder time sharpening pretty much any upgraded steel. Their stuff is dead simple to sharpen and easy to get a wicked edge.

    Just need a basic bench stone, man-made hardware store stone or a soft Arkansas and you'll be in business.
     
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    I don't have a Buck 110 yet, I was just a bit afraid because I've read somewhere that it's hard. Twas I hoax, I guess. :)
    I already managed to sharpen (using a taidea 1000 and cc4) to hair-shaving... 440C, AUS8, Mora's (similar to 1095 I guess) and even that no-name knife I mentioned here. So after what I've read here I think I should be able to sharpen Buck as well.

    I even managed to find a shop awaiting next week resupply of the "basic" Buck ... 80 bucks (lol) with postage ... I guess I'll take it if I had all the Xmas gifts already. :)
     
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    The old 440c from the 70's was hard to sharpen. The move to 420hc was partly because of this, although I'm sure it saved a few pennies per blade too.

    Buck's 420hc is very user friendly. Easy to sharpen, get's a hair popping edge, and refuses to rust.

    Edge holding isn't as good as 440c, but it's not worse than AUS8.
     
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    I really love my CC4! It is the centerpiece of my field sharpening kit (along with a paint stir stick strop). It never disappoints! I've used it to sharpen D2, Elmax, S30V, and S35VN all of which are pretty well known for their abrasion resistance.
     
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    If you have a double sided ceramic stone you'll be able to put an edge on that Buck so sharp that when you nick yourself you won't even know it until you see the blood. ;)
     
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    I've heard this a few places, but I have yet to try a new Buck knife. I never did like Buck knives growing up, because they were a beast to sharpen, and even when they were "sharp", they still weren't really that sharp, so the idea of a new Buck knife never really appealed to me. I always found Schrade knives to be much superior (real Schrade, not Chinese Taylor "Schrade"). If the new Buck steel really is better and easier to sharpen, I'm all for it. ;)
     
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    Try it you’ll like it.
    I carried a Schrade LB7 for a while for two reasons, I didn’t want to lose the Buck I bought in the service and it was a bear to sharpen.
    Picked up a 112 in late 70s or early 80s and gave the Schrade to my brother. Maybe by that time they changed steel. I really don’t know the history of their steels, but the 420 HC Is a great compromise for a tough easy to maintain blade.
    IMHO all blade steels are a compromise, you have to decide what is important to you.
     
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    I had one of those. One of the biggest TURDS I ever owned. Made in PRC and the lack of quality and the fact the knife fell apart with normal use after just Two months. Buyer beware.
     
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    Long time Buck fan here. A 110 in S30V is pretty nice.
     
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