Bushcrafter’s Long Gun?

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  1. heldfast

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    keeping in mind what you believe the unique values of a bushcrafter to be, what do you think would be the quintessential long gun for a bushcrafter?
     
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    For me it's a 357 lever gun loaded with a hot 38 SJHP.
     
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    Robust, low maintenance, bolt action rifle. Probably something in the .30 caliber/7mm/7.62 family.
     
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    Lever action 30-30 or a smokepole.
     
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    A wood-stocked FAL with a non-bipod cut barrel and NBC handguards.
     
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    The revamped scout rifle concept modernized by Richard Mann.
     
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    .45-70 lever gun with a reloading kit... Good for everything from rabbits to polar bears...

    Of course,,, a 12ga singleshot will do all the same things, and shells will be available over the counter.
     
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    Hmmm. Thistle be fun.

    My take in progress. Need to store some stuff in the forearm and stock and finish the scabbard pack.

    22lr 20guage .223(not pictured or carried with this setup. With the variety of loads, esp with the mod shotgun barrell, the 22/20 combo is mighty versatile. My .223 barrel shoots so good with the scope on it I hate to take it off, but it's too heavy and big to carry with the rest of it for me.

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    I need to fabricate some 1/4 turn or some other quick release method for the buttstock plate.
     

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    Best answer is single shot 20 gauge shotgun.
     
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    Double Barrel two trigger 12Ga. with an assortment of inserts for other calibers including breach plugs for shooting as a muzzle loader.
    A true multi-task firearm that can handle anything from .22lr to 00Buck. (and can be multi-loaded with bird shot in one pipe and 00Buck in another.)

    I've got a single shot now (though I don't like the heavy synthetic stock), but am on the lookout for a side by side.
     
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    I love my single shot. I think it foots the bill nicely. Someone actually did some really good youtube videos on it.
     
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    Dave Canterbury did a '21st C. Longhunter' series extolling the virtues of a single 12. Taken with a large bit of salt, there is some good stuff in there. :)
     
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    35 remington lever action.....gramps deer gun
     
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    Lever action in 30-30 or 308 or a bolt action in 308 would be versatile.
     
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    I drank the DC Kool Aid and think the single shot shotgun is the most versatile.
    I followed along his series and tested mine using a 22 insert, black powder loaded into a brass base and homemade wax sealed shells and it all seems to work fairly well. Let alone 12ga being relatively available everywhere before it comes to rolling your own. And the gun itself is light enough and not much trouble to carry anywhere. And they're cheap.
     
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    Its good to camp in groups. Hopefully one of them picked a 12ga. With that said, a revolver with shot shells can take up some slack of no shotgun.
     
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    I have a double barrel 2 trigger 20 gauge with 22 insert that has been gone through by my gunsmith and replaced the springs. I added a sling and leather shellholder so with a variety of ammo along that's mine.
     
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    Maybe it’s me but when I go “bush crafting” I see no need to be encumbered with any long arm. The odds are very good that I’m packing heat, but unless I’m hunting the rifles and shotguns say at home.
     
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    Depends on what and how far I plan to shoot. No telling what I will have to dredge up out of the lake after that boating disaster.
     
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    OK, it doesn't fit 90% of your ideas, but I'll take my Stevens favorite falling block 22lr. Light, quick, light weight extra ammo and darn near indestructible. joe
     
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    Lightweight rimfire for me
     
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    Mine would be my Savage 24-DL, 20ga/22lr combo gun. Versatile, but also quite heavy. More often, I carry a .38 revolver.
     
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    A phased plasma rifle in a 40-watt range.
     
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    But you'll settle for the 12 ga ;)
     
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    I can hit most small game at 25 yards with a hand gun so mostly I carry a 357 GP100. For a long gun I have had my eye on a lever 357 mag as it would be good for everything from dear to squirrel if loaded for the game. I have hunted small game with round nose lead 38spl with good results. My current long gun is a Tikka T3x hunter stainless in 6.5x55 with a 3-18 MIL scope from primary arms. Works fine for big game and predators. I hunt mostly medium game (K-9 and Nutira) so it works for that out to 500 yards.
     
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    To hell with bad guys and big bears. An RPG.
     
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    Remington Model 8 in .35 Remington. An old take down gun, that will also take down just about anything.
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    Depends where I am bushcraft/camping:

    Big bear woods? 12ga pump short barrel or a Ruger GSR .308

    AZ desert? Light .22bolt action rifle with 2-7x scope

    Chicago? Mini aluminum softball bat and a glove

    OR coast? Concealed Glock 9mm.

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    image.jpeg These mostly fit the bill. Top to bottom
    Winchester 1894 Trapper 30-30
    Savage 24 22lr/20ga
    Galef beretta-companion folding 20ga single shot
    H&R Tamer 20ga

    I'm keeping the 30-30 trapper but the other stuff needs to go down the road.
     
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    I bet you would regret selling your 24...

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    Now that is classy!
     
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    I can’t begin to tell how much game I’ve taken with my galif! It was the first gun I purchased! Got it in 8th grade paid 43.00 for it! Light, points well, 3” chamber modified choke. Taken deer, geese, turkey, crow, bunnies, squirrels and more! Still have it with no plans to ever let it go! I like your tamer very much, with choke tunes that would be on my list to get!
     
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    including miscreant bankrobbers in Ford V8's.
     
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    I don't usually carry a long gun but I'll answer for fun...

    I like @central joe's answer. I grew up hiking around our property and the surrounding redwood forests packing a Stevens Favorite. It is still one of my favorite rifles and works great for woods bumming. Besides, I don't feel like I need the capability to bag a trophy buck when out and about.

    Another one I might take is a 22-410. Great woods gun but at 7 lbs with no sling it would get cumbersome pretty darn quick.

    I also have a Model 92 in 25-20. That is a great plinker and small game cartridge. New ammo is expensive but reloading stuff is available. I'd like to get my dirty fingers on an Ideal tool and do campfire reloads, that would be pretty cool. Very bushcrafty. :)
     
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    maybe this one

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    or maybe this one

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    I bought one of the Short Lane 12 Ga to 209 Muzzle Loading Adapters for my 12 ga. I used it last year for the extended 'muzzleloader' season on White Tail last year. Works fine in the very close foliage/swamps that I hunt in and makes a MUCH EASIER to clean shooting experience. As cool as the Traditions Hawken is it is a PITA to clean after shooting.
     
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    What type of load?
     
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    Joe's Stevens Favorite would be just about perfect. They are lightweight, very simple, and cheap to feed. Foraging for anything from fish, frogs, squirrels, birds, and even deer are possible of you're a good shot. Its too bad that nice examples have become so uncommon and $$.

    My Marlin 1894CL in 32-20 would serve admirably for most of the aforementioned critters. I've done a fair amount of load experimentation with the 30-30 and have 3 loads that shoot to similar point of aim at 50 yards (125gr, 160gr and 180gr) for small, medium, and larger game like deer or black bear. This old Savage could get the nod
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    I carry a Rossi 92src in 38/357. If you hand load you can hunt squirrel to deer, and anything in between.
     
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    For me, it is the Baikal .22 over 20 gauge
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    and packin' BAR's?
     
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    Savage 24 in .223/20ga w/ open sights

    should be able to provide the accomplished hunter ample meat for the pot and repel intruders when loaded appropriately

    ammunition for both barrels is universally available or the individual can reload both easily
     
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    image.jpeg One of my favorites and what I consider the best is the Marlin Papoose 22lr you see in its case inside pic.

    Below is an old Remington auto loading or self loading rifle in 35 Rem from 1907. Later it would be known as the model 8 and then 81. This one has been used some and has "character", but it still works.

    @Midwest.Bushlore and self are going to the Selway tomorrow, maybe I'll bring along this old thing.
     
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    Wow, that's a good looking and interesting rifle!
     
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    The Papoose truly is a sweet little rifle! My brother has one, great shooter. I'd recommend the stainless version as the blued is pretty vulnerable to rust. His is quite accurate despite the light weight and very basic nature. You could do a lot worse than a .22 LR for your 'survival' or bushcrafting long gun. @oldpinecricker and I have had many fireside discussions about guns, among other things.

    Personally, and this is just my own opinion and not meant to bash anyone else's views, I don't really see the point of a single shot as a bushcraft/survival gun. It's really not any lighter than a repeater in most cases. I'd much rather have a bolt rifle than a single shot (eg Ruger No 1, etc). First off, it's capable of holding ammo in the mag. Yeah, I know that's an obvious point but if you have the rifle loaded then even if you lose your pack or spare ammo you at least have a few rounds in the gun. Also, a bolt offers a fairly quick follow-up shot.

    The one exception I suppose is the single shot break open shotgun. I'd much rather have a pump, especially where I live, but if you carry an adapter to use a rifle cartridge in your shotgun then I suppose the break open is a good option. Something like the Saveage 24 that @oldpinecricker pictured above would be an outstanding long gun for bushcrafting, capable of taking almost anything in North America with the correct ammunition. A 30-30 barrel over a 12 ga would indeed do anything in NA.

    If I didn't live in bear country then I'd maybe take an AR as my woods gun. Light weight, accurate, reasonably powerful and you can carry a lot of ammo easily. My long guns tend towards the EBR/military patterns so the only one that's really a good choice where I live is my Mossberg 500 so that's the one I tend to take with me. It will probably go with me to the Selway tomorrow, and I'm gonna throw in the Ruger LCRx this time!
     
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    I'm in the combo gun camp.

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    Ask and you shall receive. A light and handy pump rimfire at top and below a Savage 24 30-30/12ga combo. This would be an awesome combo to hunt deer and grouse on the way to Crooked Fork where I told you about that trout hole. A little heavy but very capable.
     
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    More of the handgun camp here. If I’m carrying a long gun and not specifically hunting then it’s a single shot shotgun. One day I’ll build a perfect one but for now my old cut down 20 gauge works.
     

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