I have several , the problem is neither of them will accommodate a single GSI/Walmart SS mug. So I went to REI to see what if anything was available . I came across the Giga Power Lite Max stove . It literally fits in the palm of my hand . Comparable to a Bic size wise an weighs less than a mora , 1.9 oz. . Has great simmer control also . Just thought I'd share . What do those of you that own one use ? Here's a shot with the Adventurer mug with it's slanted design on the bottom it's not easy to use on these style stoves . But it's very sturdy on this one .