Chainsaw file in a drill. Good bad or ugly?

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  1. Zunga

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    Was given a tip recently. That if you put a chainsaw file in a old drill. You have a poor man's router/sander. Before I try it. I thought caution the order of the day. I'm particularly interested in hearing from those. With holes they were not born with or missing digits!
    Thanks
    Jim
     
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    Never seen that. Files are meant to cut on the push, not from rotation. I think it will dull the file very quickly.
    But I've never done it, so maybe I'm wrong!
     
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    Your absolutely correct on file design. I neglect to mention two important points (my bad) the intended use is for working softwood. Secondly I live in a logging community. Half way used chainsaw (round not sure if there is another shape) files are easy to find often free. Loggers replace them often. So while not for there intended use. Under those conditions in theory it should work! I just would not to learn the hard way if you catch my drift!
     
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    I think you'll find the teeth too fine to effectively work softwood, regardless of whether your pushing or turning the file.
     
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    I get where you're coming from.
    It might break with a lot of side pressure, but I dont see much danger.
    Give it a try!
     
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    Give it a shot and take some photos for us @Zunga . :)
     
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    You want pics before or after the hospital visit. LMAO
     
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    Thanks all @Muleman77 and @x39 are likely dead right. It likely won't work or well for the purpose of softwood. Could turn into a powered tinder maker! That could b fun, if more dangerous still!
    ROFL
     
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    Just remember, put it in the first aid thread too then!
     
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    Put the drill in a vice or clamp and work the wood around the file instead of the other way round. Would be safer and you would have a little more control that way.
     
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    Brilliant. Just picked up a bench vice to! Not litterally those suckers are heavy! LOL! But that is a far better approach. At worst this thread gets a follow up. At best i get some work done and a follow up post!
    Thanks for the tip. Still teaching myself the k.i.s.s principle I'm affraid!
     
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    I've done it, you move the work down the length to get it to work but your creating side pressure and you'll bend the file. You can cut it shorter to help but you lose the run of the file. I have round rasps that worked better, less fine=more removal. I've also done this in a drill press ( yes ive used it as a lathe also) with drill bits...another bad idea, but I knew what to expect and had first aid kit ready. A jigsaw upside down in A vise is fun, you can bevel cut, same goes a small belt sander in a vice...which I think is the safest of dumb things to do lol
     
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    If you don't mind, before and after photos would be great! Always like to see others reaching my level of success! Makes my idiot trophies seem a little less special! :) In all seriousness, I don't see much danger but not much gain in it either. As was posted earlier be careful with the side pressure.
     
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    Ask and you shall recieve! Someone who's done and no extra holes or missing digits!
    Thanks!
     
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    I hurt myself in the little things enough to know to precede with extreme caution in bigger ventures lol, common sense goes a long way too, but when that little voice chimes in then I know to walk away.

    Seriously though...ive done alot of things with power tools that you shouldn't, even though I did it in a safe manner it shouldn't have been done. I'm fortunate to have all my fingers (almost lost half my thumb with a skilsaw, and have drilled my leg once...) lots of cuts and bruises. most recent i ended up puncging my razor knife blade...that was weird...thankfully it went sideways. Work smart...have fun...live to play longer.
     
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    If your a shooter at all. Don't try to use a jig saw off hand while holding thin plywood in the other. Then let it bite your trigger finger. There's no squeeze for me only yank! I would normally argue in my defense at this point. However the only part yet left untold is no defence at all! I got into the beer before starting the whole sad and painful adventure. Hospital had to call in a semi retired surgeon on his off duty day. To restore any function at all. So those reading this post. Alcohol x power tools is 9 kinds of EPIC STUPID!!!!
     
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    agree. but a round rasp shouldn't be too hard to find or expensive...
     
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    Alcohol and anything is always bad lol, except for relaxing by a fire.
     
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    Even then get all the wood you'll need before getting comfy!

    Edit: 9 kinds because even a cat would have slim odds. Plus it's the smrtest number I know without getting complicated. By adding a extra digit!
    ROFL
     
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    Nor for that matter would a wood cutting burr be very expensive. Right tool for the job and all that...
     
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    Again absolutely agree! Many construction jobs (yes done construction and still here. Luckiest man alive) I've cursed a cheap and/or distracted boss and the crappy tools he gave me. I've always been a history nut! From that perspective a whole lot of the world was built with a chunk of wood and a bit iron. I'm exploring the practical applications of how that was done. I guess I'm into self made tools and the reasons behind the standards for modern ones. Example I don't own a power drill of any kind. Currently use a drill bit set in the end of a maple round for a handle. If your patient it works well enough. But as projects get bigger Power tools become nesacary. So if I can get the most use out of one then money better spent ( I'm both cheap and poor LOL)
     
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    While we're on the subject of scary tool work, I once had a Metabo side grinder fly out of my hand, landing on my gravel driveway.
    That was scary.
    The damn thing was like a deadly little tornado until I ripped the cord from the outlet.
    I was lucky that day for sure. Now I only use models that have pressure triggers: let go and it shuts down.
    Back on topic, I will use a needle file in a drill to clean up holes in steel on occasion.
    I've used my drill press with router bits, also used a Dremel as a router (with router bits and the jinky Dremel plunge router setup).
    While none of the above work wonders, they do work. You just have to be careful, and realize that you're going to spend 5x the amount of time it would take with the "proper" tools.
    Also, side pressure on a drill press is not a good thing, do it too much and your ability to drill holes with precision degrades.
    But there's a workaround for everything if your wallet's thin but your mind is active!
    Good luck, have fun, and above all be safe. You can skip a lot of steps, but PPE ain't one of them.
     
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    I built a motorized mountain bike. Was trying for a very steep and slick hill. Nope. Spun out, bucked me off like a horse. Over the rear tire. The throttle pinned when it hit the ground. It was doing donuts on the spot on its side. LOL had a heck of a time getting a hold of the thing and killing the motor.
     
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    @Zunga , that's epic! You're my kind of crazy.
     
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    Nuttier than a constipated squirrel. I still wouldn't suggest wasting money on those motor kits. Theyre a good idea executed badly. Built 2 bikes and burned 4 motors! In a year.
     
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    I use rotary files, like mill bits pretty regularly. I also like the rotary rasp bits. As said, drill presses don't especially like lateral forces applied to them.
     
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    Rotary files aren't free, but they're not expensive. If you actually attempt the chainsaw tooth file in a drill experiment, keep the speed low- The file may start to lay over, then snap with great vigor! Use eye protection and do it at a friend's place (Don't try this at home). :4:
     
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    Thanks for That! I'd just discovered rotary rasps online recently. I've only got a knock off dremel and a angle grinder at the moment. I bought myself a cheap half round hand rasp. I was amazed at all the the angles and curves i could cut with one tool. The power version is a time saver for sure.
    Cheers
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    Many years ago I wrapped a bunch of 0000 steel wool around a file and put it in my drill and the drill in a vice. You could polish something in a heartbeat. Used it for years, replenishing the steel wool as needed. The file gripped it nicely. Wish I still had it. Might have to make another.

    JohnP
     
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    Funny....i put steel wool on a bore brush to polish a motorcycle head, put it a drill
     
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    It might ignite the tinder while you are making it! I have had roto zip bits intended for drywall get wood smoking pretty good. Be careful, and if it works awesome. If not, no loss.
     
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