Cheap, Simple, Innovative tools

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  1. BushcrafterAU

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    Who here likes the cheap, simple tools like the Opinel, Mora, and Svord? I certainly do. In fact, at times I even place my Opinel #8 in my pocket over my $280 Leatherman Charge! There is just something about them that makes them a pleasing knife to use.
    Who here agrees with me?
    And do any of you know of other tools in the same category ?
     
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    I do! I see no real correlation between price and quality in many cases. It is not just tools, but all kinds of things. My Mora Companion HD is a great knife and didn’t cost a lot. I have lots of tools that are not ‘top of the line’ but have served well.
     
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    I just about had a heart attack until I realized you meant Aussie dollars...

    I'll spout the usual list - Opinels, Moras, a few of the A.G. Russels are fantastic. A Leatherman Wave is a fantastic value even at 80 dollars or so, but I think it's a false equivalence to compare it with an Opinel.

    SAKs are the weasels of the knife world - pound for pound the meanest boys out there.
     
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    Something I fight with on this topic in the Ultralight crowd of hikers/backpackers I hang out with at times. I keep asking myself, what will a 10x10 Tarp from BCO do differently than a 10x10 made of cuben at 3-5 times the cost?

    Old school cool sometimes just works best for the most people.
     
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    I agree 100%.
    The latest and greatest ain't always an improvement.
    SAKs and Opinel have been around over 100 years because they do the job and do it well.
    I carried a Vic Super Tinker for about 25 years and it took care of everything I needed it to.
    In the past 15 years or so I have acquired around 30-35 fixed blades, folders, multi-tools etc and in all honesty the SAK will still handle everything except the occasional need for pliers.
    The older I get the more appreciation I have for the old school/classic things in life.
    The fact is I am officially a "classic" of sorts (1955 model:rolleyes:) so "bells and whistles" don't excite me much these days:D
     
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    The pocket bellows I have a fire 2-3 times a week with my little girls as soon as the weather is warm enough, and I always throw it in my pocket and seem to use it every time I have a fire.
     
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    I have an Opinel 8, it got run over by a truck and crushed the handle. I made a new one out of scrap piece of wood and it's good as new. Many years ago I was in a store and they had these 4" Chinese made crescent wrenchs for a buck. I bought one and the next day at work I used it a lot. Little thing was great. I went back and bought a dozen of them so I would have spares when I broke them. I never did break one and only lost one. I still carry one in my pocket and have one more extra left. I have been giving them to people I like. LOL
     
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    I love my Opinel #8 I do have on my wish list a svord I just love the way they look and the one I did use it fit my hand just right. Prov 27:17
     
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    I'm poor so most of my stuff is cheap lol...love opinel, fiskars, repair vintage axes. Gotta Google svord...thats new to me!
     
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    I crushed my #6 inox with the car accidentally. It ended up losening the blade, which actually meant you could very easily flick it. I ended up giving it to my sister though.
     
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    Yup! Fiskars works great!
     
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    Well.. now I have a svord in my Amazon cart....thanks guys :4: Except now I have to get wifey some flowers to even it out lol
     
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    Jute twine is just about the cheapest, simplest stuff in the world to use for cordage. It holds a knot well, is biodegradable, and you can burn it when you're done. I used it to tie my tarp to the stakes while camping last weekend and it was strong enough.
     
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    I agree with most things, except compasses. I tried to find a good cheap compass, but turns out it's an oxymoron.

    A lot of things though are fine cheap (or cheaper), knives being a good example. I noticed that while looking into knives in the martial arts sector, there's all these fancy, high end, expensive combat knives from exclusive forges, but in the end the bad guy on the street either has a pocket knife or something he grabbed from his mum's kitchen. Does the job.

    I knew an old drover when I was a kid in the Queensland outback. He'd spend months out bush and rarely needed more than a couple of butchers knives and an inexpensive stainless fixed blade.

    I like my Mora.
     
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    I do! I'm cheap as frig on alot of stuff.. as long as it preforms well!!
     
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    Svords are good inexpensive knives and the simplicity of the design adds to their appeal. One word of caution- always pocket carry blade tip down. Trust me on this.:rolleyes:
     
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    I like the old Eastern bloc poncho/half shelter plash palatka, it’s cheap, sturdy, and can function in many ways. It can also take the kind of abuse that some modern materials won’t be able to handle. Dragged it over rocks, put a few burn marks on it by accident, etc. I’ve used it as a poncho, as a sitting pad (fold it a few times), a place to clean/put together gear so it’s not on bare ground, as a picnic blanket, to haul firewood and kindling, as cover from the sun. In a pinch it can be used as a gurney (never had to do that, thankfully) and when it gets really worn out, it’s got enough material to make multiple bags, pouches and sheaths.
     
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    @MaximIsayev Sounds a lot like the poncho in my current GAW. It's done most of those tasks in it's life with me. :14::dblthumb:
     
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    We cannot do our job without Vise Grips,We carry 7 on the truck,9 if you count the bitty ones which open up just enough to do a garage door spring job.
     
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    I keep 6 of these in my van. 4 are needle nose, the rest just like the picture.
     
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    A tad off topic,we used a prussik made of cable as an anchor off of a steel bollard for our come along to back wind a commercial spring because there was no other way to anchor it. I would like to know if anyone else has done that.
     
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    I made a rotary file out of a pencil sharpener and a roll pin to increase the ID on a winding cone for a spring for an old brand of door that had a shaft that was an eighth inch bigger. The customer didn't miss the pencil sharpener!
     
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    Pardon my language but my job is to turn shit into sugar. I have plenty of pics to prove that I do just that.

    I can honestly say now I am a jack of all trades and master of none.

    I have an imagination.
     
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    There are people out there better than me,I'm happy about that! I love how other people solve problems!

    Bushcraft suits me well,see a problem,fix it and /or work around it.
     
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    Most of my bells and whistles have fallen off. :eek:
     
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    A wr-4 if I'm not mistaken. Its my edc along with a fixed blade knife. I had the Crunch but it was just lousy to use, it made me mad once and I chucked it as far as I could into the bush! Replace with the small vice grip, the leather sheath is from an old leather boot, the knife and VGs ride in.
     
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    My favorite tools are the ones I make from rocks, sticks, and antler/bone. Can't get much cheaper or simpler than that :dblthumb:
     
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    I have the old 5wr,good tool. I bought my son the new version,the way the knife opened up was wrong so I took the tool apart and changed it.
     
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    I agree,just takes some thinking and applying it.
     
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    Rocks make nice hammers. rocks and the proper knots make great anchors. Did that just yesterday for crawdad traps. Set the anchor with a rock for a hammer and used a thin bowtie shaped rock and a clove hitch for a sinker to hide our line.
     
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    Trangia stove
    Bic lighter
    Firesteel
    the new generation of LED flashlights
    Bandanas
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    Carabiners
    ....all quite affordable and indispensable.
    A length of copper pipe will also provide you with a few bellows blow tubes. I have never sprung for the pocket bellows but it has been on my wish list for ages.
     
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    You can pick up one of the telescoping magnets for a buck or two and remove the magnet to have a cheap blow tube.
     
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    This is my Kershaw locking plyers .
    they take care of emergency tasks away from home . I carry them in my EDC bag Had these for about 20 years .
    I have other knives I carry as well , this one is better than carrying a vise grip plyers .
    While working on boats that was one of my primary tools .
    If when the stainless blade wears out I'll replace it with a 1095 steel blade .
    Another multi tool I carry is a swiss army tool . DSCN4324.JPG The one on the left is modified and I keep it in my pocket all the time . I like having a marlin spike it's a handy tool as well.
     
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    That Swiss Army tool is cool! I have never heard of a marlin spike, what does it do? Based on the name I would guess its used to kill marlin before they flop around the boat doing damage?
     
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    Marlin spikes are for working with rope or cable splicing.
     
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    Haha I was WAY off with my guess! Thanks for clearing that up for me lol.
     
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    Strike anywhere matches.
     
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    I bought some "strike anywhere" matches that are supposed to be "eco friendly" or "green" or something like that and they are no goodo_O. The matches won't light using the striker on the box and it tears up after a couple tries:mad:. They wouldn't strike anywhere else:(. I don't remember the brand because I threw them away.

    If you know a brand of "strike anywhere" matches that really DO "strike anywhere"( like ALL matches used to do:rolleyes:) please tell us the brand so I can stock up on them.

    Thanks.
     
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    My personal list in this category

    • Victorinox Swiss Army Knives
    • Mora Fixed Blades
    • Fiskars Hatchet
    • Opinel Folder
    • Stanco Grease Pot
    • 98 Honda Civic
    • Pittsburgh Breaker Bar and Impact Grade Sockets
    • Walmart Machete
    • Tramontina Machete
    • Pittsburgh Hatchet
    • Lumintop Tool
    • Olight H05
    • Bic Lighter (how did I forget this one)
     
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    I both agree and disagree. I have owned both Opinels and Svords, and ended up getting rid of them because they just didn't work as well for me as any of my more expensive folders. They rusted easily, had poor edge retention, were awkward to carry, and were annoying to open. However, I own several Moras and love them. I use them often. I admit that they are made of rather cheap materials and, while I don't consider that a fault at their price point, it does make them generally inferior to my other fixed blade knives. They are excellent tools in their price range for sure.

    I definitely see a correlation between price and quality the majority of the time. There are obvious differences when you consider an average $15 knife vs an average $50 knife vs an average $100 knife vs an average $200 knife. That being said, there are definitely outliers. Moras, for instance, are $15 dollar knives that rival most $50 knives. However, I can't think of any other $15 knives that do the same. I think Opinels and Svords are useful, but they definitely feel like $15 knives.

    Haha. Same. I agree with this. There are products out there which have an excellent value and outperform their price (Mora, SAK, etc...). However, they seem to be relatively few and far between.
     
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    Definitely disagree with this. Every box of strike anywhere matches that I've ever tried to use was horrible. Apparently, there used to be good ones. I'm afraid that's not true anymore.
     
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    Some of the cheap matches are calling themselves strike anywhere, because they have the striker on the box. I really miss the old red with a white tip matches that you could strike anywhere. Even your zipper back in the day when they were metal. :14:
     
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    Thanks for the marlin spike idea. I have two of the little Cabella’s multi tools with the flashlight. One of them will lose the flashlight and get a marlinspike. Then I will have a tiny flashlight too. :dblthumb:
     
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    Not sure I saw these mentioned but rubber Ranger Bands and double sided medical tape are both great for wrapping handles or other items. Medical tape seen here also is on several more of my axes which need grip and some high vis. help:

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    I've mentioned it before. Bahco 2444 mora knife. Canadian prices for a item are often much higher than the America price. This is rarely more than $13 Canadian and often on sale for less than $10. It's every bit as good as a budget stainless mora. But with a middle range grip. Typical mora plastic sheath.
    Cheers Jim
     
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    I have a few boxes of the UCO Strike anywhere matches, which do seem to strike in most places, although I do not feel that they are quite as good as the Swan Vesta matches I used to get in the UK. Those you could actually strike on a pane of glass or even your desk top!!

    Check this out for info on the UCO matches though … https://www.99boulders.com/uco-strike-anywhere-matches-review

    It does say that they have been discontinued, but I am sure the last pack I got (10 boxes) was only a few months ago, so there may still be places stocking them or try Amazon.

    Hope this helps.

    OJ
     
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    While one hears lots about fire steels etc, one of the best fires is a simple Bic (or equivalent) lighter.

    I suspect more fires are started with that simple tool than all others combined, at least in 1st world countries, and probably popular and preferred everywhere.

    I would say it is my number 3 or 4 fire source

    one I enjoy using my zippo and that is what I usually have, and it is a nice tool also

    second would be a fire steel, just because

    3 and 4 are a tie between strike any where matches in a safe and a bic lighter.
     
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    If your Opinel or Svord rusts easily, try buying the stainless versions. Both are made out of nice 12c27 steel.
     
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