Combination tool from a file

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  1. Seahunter

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    This is something that CowboyJesus mentioned a while back and stuck with me. I haven't used this much so It might not work out so great. It is sharp on both ends so it needs an improvised handle to be safe in the field. EDIT: I wouldn't make it short like this one if I were to do it again. The sharp ends are close together and to me it doesn't feel safe. I think leaving it full length or removing the tang are safer options.

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    Awl
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    Improvised handle.
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  2. Seahunter

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    @field-expedient used to have a thread... I think it was called The Humble File. Probably got lost in the shift to the newer servers. I have one I built off of that thread. Very useful tool indeed!

    Nice job on that @Seahunter ! I like how you shortened it down to make it more portable!

    I’ll add some pictures tomorrow.
     
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    Yes, the humble file! you remembered! thanks!
     
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    You can cover a lot of ground with that bad boy! It would be cool to have saw teeth cut into one of the long, narrow edges...
     
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    A very versatile file. Good pics and post. Thanks.
     
  7. ExAF1N1

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    Hell. Yes. To all of the above. That is multiple use at it's finest. Good show.
     
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    I like it. I would make one it I had the space for a bench grinder.
     
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    Very cool idea. It is surprising how often a chisel comes in handy. I have a SOG multi tool that someone added a chisel to. I have used it often.
     
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    Got a pic? I have the old SOG one that looks like the tool they gave to OSS agents in WW2. Think they called it the Toolclip.
     
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    How did you shorten the file?
     
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    That's funny. F.E. comes up with all the best stuff. I made this to fit in a 2 0z tobacco tin, but it is too short to have both an awl and a chisel. It needs to be at least a few inches longer to be safe to use. I am going to knock the tip of the awl off this one and permanently put it in a handle. I am going to make another one that doesn't have an awl for my tin. It won't be as multi functional, but it will have a lot more file surface for it's length. A 4 way rasp would be a cool one to start with too.

    That sounds like something field-expedient would do. I don't know how to cut saw teeth, but I bet it would be a slow process on a file.

    That was the easiest part. I just clamped it in a vise where I wanted the file to end and smacked it with a wooden mallet. It snapped at the vice jaw.

    There are these pre-made rasp/chisels.
    https://www.homedepot.com/p/Nicholson-Wood-Chuck-Chisel-Rasp-Set-3-Piece-WCSET3CMNN/206710010

    and these chisel knives
    https://www.homedepot.com/p/DEWALT-1-in-Construction-Chisel-DWHT16065/203040545
     
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    Had a go at making one today. Possibly a bit short but I broke it off with a hammer just before where the file had weld spatter.
    Got the file for 25c NZ, 15c US, 10p GBP.
    I need to drill a hole in the awl.
    Should be enough file to be useful touching up a blade etc.
    I put a 90deg bevel on one side of the file too.. genius idea thank you
     

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    Ya done well lad. joe
     
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    This is a very good idea. I’m gonna keep my eye out for a good file to use. Would be handy in day pack.
     
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    It's a winner.
    I could see someone adding a few things and selling them...
     
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    Stitched up a wee leather sheath with some 1" webbing as a welt in the 20191011_224111.jpg 20191011_224136.jpg 20191011_224145.jpg bottom.
     
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    Any suggestions on shaping the file metal? Does it require another file or will a belt sander work?
     
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    I used a bench grinder and dipped the blade in oil and water every 2 or 3 seconds of grinding to stop it from getting too hot.

    It worked ok
     
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    I see that they have some tools similar to this but they don't seem to be worth carrying to me. The ones I see made here are. I would make one if I could. It's my favorite idea of @field-expedient and he has had many.
     
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    I have one of those Dewalt side strike chisel's. It's tough as heck..beat on it at work daily. Way to heavy in a pack for me though. I'm loving the modified file. Way to go guys!
     
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    I like it, but I'm thinking it might be hard to use the awl with a sharp chisel on the opposite end. (A useful chisel is at least as sharp as a knife)

    So I'm wondering if there should be a handle for each end? Or would a heavy welted sheath for the chisel end allow the awl to be used safely?
     
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    So after using this a little I have decided that it isn't a safe tool. If it was made from a full size chisel it would probably be OK, because when you went to use the awl you could hold the tool in the middle of the file and the sharp end of the chisel would be away from your hand. The one I made is too short and there isn't really anyway to use the awl safely. I think I will make another short one where I remove the tang of the file and make the tang end smooth and the opposite end a chisel. This one is going to be permanently installed in a handle.
     
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    Tap the chisel into a small piece of wood to use the awl, even into a log and pull the fabric down onto the awl.

    It worked ok for me when I tried it yesterday
     
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    Good job on the tool.
    What you could do is draw the temper and drill a hole in the center of the tool and make a handle the tool swivels in.
     
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    Here is an idea for you - get the right size pvc pipe, heat it up with a heat gun, and flatten it to fit the file. Get it just right and you have a snug fitting rigid sheath. Poor boys kydex. I've actually done this before to make a sheath of similar size/shape for a windshield knife.
     
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    Here’s the pictures of mine...

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    Thats pretty cool, I have thought a few times about carrying a chisel edge or making one as an extension for the leatherman or something, not once did I consider using a file but it makes perfect sense with a high rockwell edge that should keep it for a long time. Nice job

    For a handle you could file or dremel 1/8th half circle marks out of the long edges every half inch or so for paracord to tie to, or zip ties or something to any split sapling.
     
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    That is a good I was filing a small part shorter with mine combo file. I had to hold the part with my hand since my file is short I didn't like how close the chisel edge was coming to my fingers.

    This looks much safer than what I put together.

    Here is another option: I ground the profile of the tang on a different gouge to match the hole that is left behind by the reamer on a SAK farmer.
     
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    Duct tape over the chisel blade is an option too
     
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    One thing I would add, I use a chainsaw raker file they have smooth slightly rounded edges that you can use like a sharpening steel for your knives. It would be easy enough to grind the teeth off one side of any file to have the same function.
     

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