Condor H2O pouch WIP

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  1. Bushcraft-kelso

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    Hey fellow bushcrafters!
    I posted a while back I was building a kit based around a molle water bottle holder.
    Well... I've started to give it some dirt time tho we don't go miles from home.
    I plan on building this to be an extension of the condor psk pouch I have built in the past, so for a bit things will change from time to time. 15220086164711509724529.jpg
    I removed the original strap and made me one from 550 cord and some steel Clevis buckles.
    I'm using a 32oz Nalgene and a stainless nesting cup. 15220088426501092166850.jpg
    That's pretty much the base of the kit. Everything will revolve around this. I had an idea I wanted to try with a roll of bank line.. 1522009041134497035619.jpg
    Fit perfect! There went my cordage and saved internal space! I have fell in love with mule tape sence I tried it on my knife psk.. Awesome stuff.. I put 12 feet on this kit attached to the outside with a glove holder that can be used for other things as well.. 15220092893521343832209.jpg
    Also found this out.. scho-ka-kola tins.. perfect... @Primordial
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    I haven't added a lot of needed things to it yet.. but this is what I have so far..
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    It's not much, but I know what it needs I just have to round it up :) I'll keep y'all posted on the contents as I add. Here's to another kit build! Thought I'd share!
     
  2. Bushcraft-kelso

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    This kit is not an overnight kit.. just for the day. It will have the items needed to get ya through a night if needed when complete! Just wanted to clarify.. Thanks!
     
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    Nice! Tin fits great!
     
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    I like it young fellar. joe
     
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    Outstanding stuff @Bushcraft-kelso ! I'm a bottle bag kit junkie! There's just so much you can do with one. Like you, I set them up as day hike kits but with a few things to help me get by if I had to spend an unexpected night outdoors. I must say I admire your restraint...my kits seem to fall victim to sprawl!:oops: I usually have a small pouch MOLLEd onto each side to get a little bit more stuff in there.:)
     
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    @Midwest.Bushlore I have seen a thread on some water bottle kits once before but I couldn't find it again. Post me up a link if u happen across it sir! I would like to see what kind of set up and contents you are hauling!
     
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    I can think of a couple of discussions of similar kits- here is one,and here's one more. I know there's more than I can't find right now.
     
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    Nice! I like keeping a knife or multi tool on the outside of the bag for quick access.
     
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    Looks good thanks for sharing.
    Prov 27 : 17
     
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    Crappy pic but you get the point. It’s my edc “man purse” as my daughter calls it.
     
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    @tashunka witko that's the most maxed-out bottle bag kit I've ever seen! I'd love to see a post about the contents.
     
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    Nice kit. I did one similar. What I did for my strap is use a length of standard webstrap and weaved paracord over it with the strap taking the place of the inner lines. That gives me a nice shoulder pad that can be used as cordage while maintaining a strap for carrying.
     
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    Hey all I added 2 new pouches to my molle water bottle holder.. it's probably best I don't add anything else.. this increased size by 4-5x if you only count the small pouch on the front.. IMG_20180408_143347.jpg
    I added a condor gadget pouch and a dump pouch. Gave me ample room for basically what ever I wanna carry on a quick trip out. I'll keep y'all posted as things are added!
     
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    I like it @Bushcraft-kelso ! I've been mulling over the dump pouch as well. There are a few that get great reviews at Amazon. It's something I'd rarely use but it would be a godsend when I did need it. Well, actually it might be one of those things you don't realize is so useful til you try it! I'm eager to see how the pack rides now and how you like it once you've used it a bit.
     
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    Great thread. Thanks!
    I'll have to take some photos of my kit and post
     
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    Please do! I'm always looking for ideas to steal!;)
     
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    Finally got around to this.

    Kit is set up for where I wander. Chances are if I have to spend the night it'll only be the one. I also have a lanyard with a whistle and compass. Big knife on the hip.

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    Contents of mine. Forgot bag wasn’t in pic.
     
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    Good looking kits yall!
     
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    Definitely some good input on this thread. :)
     
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    1526182654449-1155835871.jpg had some time tonight to go through my H2O kit and check what else it might need and/or need taken out.
    Contents:
    32oz Nalgene w/ OT nesting cup.
    Emergency poncho
    Emergency blanket
    SAK
    Mora Eldris w/survival kit
    Titanium spork
    Note book
    Pencil
    Led head lamp
    2 fat wood sticks
    Fire kit w/tin
    Cotton bandana
    4' 550 cord
    Small roll bank line
    Fire steel
    UST folding stove
    Fuel tabs
    I have been adding as I go, I don't wanna over load this little kit... being it gets used alot and is normally paired with my Condor pack Golok.
     
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    Bush braws! I added an elastic string, from a molle pouch to the molle on the front. 1529972140159123756237.jpg added my mini sit pad. Added 0 weight. I also added the CRKT Persevere to the kit, only the wedges, pin, and the blade I have a hank of 550 already and it fits in a small pouch already on the kit. 1529973050547723135774.jpg I also traded my stainless nesting cup for an aluminum one. I also traded my UST folding stove for this dude
    15299728706561860365360.jpg it's becoming slightly more "refined" I'm trying to add things and take things away that I haven't used. While trying to cut down on the weight of my most used items. Anywho thought I'd give an update!
     
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    Nice! That axe head seems like a good addition.
     
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    Did a mod to a Mora sheath so the knife didn't hang below the bottom of the H2O kit. Don't know why that bothered me but it did.

    New knife position compared to photo in post #19
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    Nice kit @Bushcraft-kelso :dblthumb: I made a paracord belt same weave as your strap. Making one that long is a serious lesson in patients. Nice work!
    Cheers Jim
     
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    Thanks braw!
     
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    What straps do you guys like for things like this? I lent one to my GF for walking the dog, but just used a piece of paracord. It would be nice to give her a more comfortable solution.

    Edit: @Bushcraft-kelso what spool is that?

    Sorry to tag you in so many posts just now. I deleted them.
     
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    You could use a strap from a camera case or shoulder strap from a book bag etc.

    Try to keep it wide. 2" is a good width
     
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    Ah. I didn't know if there was a company making them
     
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    @tomcfitz no worries braw! I made mine out of 550 cord. It's the cobra knot that one uses for bracelets! It's got alot of cordage if I needed it and could still use some for a strap 15335537476501861979892.jpg
     
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    15356744354921559961363.jpg well as always it's changed again x)
    I have been running this for a while now and I'm liking it. I added a THW cooking/meat fork, a foam sit pad, a 100% wool square my wife made me. Makes a good pad for between hot and the leg and a good quick pot holder when ya don't feel like putting on a glove. That CRKT Persevere has turned out to be a pritty sweet piece of kit if ya don't mind making your own handle. I added the little mini multi tool just in case it's not super awesome but does fine for lifting cup lids. I hope to be able to get out more coming up soon, I miss it. Anywho here is an update on my kit!!
     
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    Lookin' good! I need to get some pics of mine as well, it has changed a bit with use.
     
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    for those of you who added additional packs to the web, did you do this with intent from the beginning or you just added on as time went on? I'm wondering if the additions added enough weight or balance issues that you might dislike?

    For anyone who added a knife to the pack, is it your primary or just a back-up? I'm wondering why on the pack instead of your belt?

    I have this pouch and the only thing I have in it at the moment is a water, however, I keep a lot of stuff on my belt and in my pockets. On the outside of my pouch, I attached four carabiners to the web to attach gloves, neck gaiter, balaclava, and ear warmer band. Depending on weather, I'm always wearing a light long-sleeve base and another long-sleeve for colder weather. I've found the neck gaiter and ear head band keeps me as warm as another long-sleeve layer, but smaller in size.

    So, my pouch is just water, gloves, head and neck layers... but I have cord/bankline, knife, leatherman+bit kit, FAK, large bandana, mylar blanket, and a bunch of other small items (eg. P51, safety pins, etc.) on me.

    I guess my question is, does the weight of an extended pouch affect you?
     
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    My system evolved kind of like this...

    1. Get Condor H2O pouch for a minimal way to carry a nalgene for a dayhike
    2. Add some additional pouches, but not being completely satisfied...
    3. End up buying a UTG Maxpedition Jumbo Versipack Knockoff ("UTG Multi-functional Tactical Messenger Bag") which has ridiculously great organization and does all the things I was trying to do with the condor + pouches
    4. Overload it
    5. Wish I had a backpack cause now it's not all that comfortable
    6. Buy a Maxpedition Sitka knockoff
    7. Overload it
    8. Wish I had a Sitka with two straps...
    9. Get Vanquest Trident 20...
    10. Overload it

    (I have a problem)
     
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    Thanks brother ! I'm going to order one. I'm thinking it would make a nice brew kit.
    And by the way very nice kit you got there.
     
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    I'm gonna say about 90% of my time in the woods is spur of the moment or non-planned. I needed a kit that was small, easy to maintain and could be left in the truck all the time. So I got the Condor H2O kit. Then I discovered (Thanks to the enablers on this site!!) that I enjoyed prepping and eating hot meals while out in the back of beyond. This required the addition of a small esbit type stove, fuel, utensils, etc. Which led to attaching another small kit.

    The attached Mora just fits perfect and is an all around good knife. It also weighs nothing. It stays where it is so I don't worry if I have a belt knife.

    Posts #19 and #27

    The added weight is insignificant compared to the weight of the water. I think the key to a good comfortable carry is a good strap. Wide and soft at the shoulder is important IMO. I have also attached a waist belt to help take some of the load but it also keeps the kit from sliding around.

    A person could argue that all this could be carried in a small pack and they would be right.
    This is just the route I choose to go.

    Good luck!
     
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    Interesting questions! My first such kit was a Maxpedition 5x12 Bottle Bag and right out of the gates I added a Cocoon to one side and a knife to the other. It wasn't too much later that I set up another kit with a pair of pouches, one on each side. The knife on the outside was to make sure I always had a minimum kit on me. Generally I have another knife but as another poster said, I keep this kit ready to go at a moment's notice, all I need to do is fill up with fresh water. It's not meant to replace a backpack but just to be a dayhiking/bush-bumming kit. So the added weight might be an issue if I carried it a long ways but that's not really how I use the kit. It carries pretty well though.



    Yep, that's my philosophy as well. A small backpack would do the same task and would carry a little better but in a bigger pack there's the temptation to cram more stuff in there. With this small grab-and-go kit I can keep the essentials handy without a lot of weight or bulk. The killer app for this kit for me is tossing it in the back seat for times I'm not sure if I'll be hiking or not. It's small enough to keep just in case the opportunity arises to get out.
     
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