Czech M60 Pack, mods and in use.

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  1. PrimitivePotato

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    Got my mum to teach me how to use her sewing machine and made a cover for my sitpad for the inside of my m60. I just used foam from an old roll mat.
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  2. NevadaBlue

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    Excellent! Sewing is a good skill to have!
     
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    I was trying to figure out how the hook straps were used. The only thing I came up with was hooking to the D-rings to make belt loops. The only problem is the hooks stick out and look like they may be uncomfortable.

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    I think they were intended (like shown farther up the thread) to hook on the draw strings at the top of the pack. The D-rings work on the pack straps, using the bag as a small pack, or hook on the strap hooks as a top pack for the M60. Sure wish we knew for sure, but the pics we have seen here so far look like that.
     
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    Thanks but I made a mistake...

    I made the sitpad the size of the compartment in the back of the m60 when it was lying down completely flat but since the top flap is smaller than the width of the pack (lying flat) when I fill the pack and try to close it, the sitpad causes the sides to stick out from under the flap meaning water and stuff can get in. I'll have to cut the foam smaller and unstitch and re sew the cover... rookie mistake :confused:

    Not sure if that makes sense...
     
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    Perfect sense. The biggest (too small) issue with the M60, IMO, is that the top flap is too small. The pack is meant to carry a minimum of stuff and the draw string tied so I guess it makes sense. I want to add flaps inside the top of the pack to hold the sides together and cover the contents before the flap is flapped... :p

    Like so, sewn on the sides only, with a draw string in the middle to hold things in place.

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    Great idea NevadaBlue, I may end up doing the same. Thanks mate.
     
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    That seems like a good idea @NevadaBlue, I'll have to give it some thought thanks!
     
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    Here is my pack that my daughter is currently using in a softball set-up configuration. I put the JNA shoulder straps on; otherwise unmodded except for velcro straps to secure a small axe (or softball bat :)) but think I may pick up a set of those leather y-straps.
     
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    Made my sitpad the right size for my pack :4:
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    I waxed the haversack addition to the pack today. I like it that way. I am going to cut off the shoulder strap and install D-rings on the stubs of the straps and make it snap on so I can carry it more easily as a top pack.

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    I added a couple of straps for my hatchet today and have my hammock strapped in under the "lid" with the extended strap I added earlier. IMG_1322 (3).JPG IMG_1321 (1).JPG
     
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    Nice mods. I like the state patch too. :dblthumb:
     
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    I was pretty lazy today. Nothing unusual about that. :rolleyes: I did however, cut the shoulder strap off the haversack and get it ready to sew. Everything is just clipped together in this pic, just to make sure it will work.

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    The D-rings are from US gas mask bags, the neat, little lightweight swivel snap hardware is from a French gas mask bag strap. All will be sewn together. This makes it easy to snap the bag on top of the M60 without the strap flopping around or being a nuisance, but also makes it very easy to unsnap it and put on the shoulder strap, making the haversack readily available for walks out of camp. Still adjustable for length too, and that will allow for winter or summer use.
     
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    Neat, a new strap from old stuff. I saved 2 dollars and spent 2 hours. LOL... But, the strap is made from the original plus some ‘stuff’.

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    Waxed my m60 today. Hopefully I will get to do an overnighter out of it in the next few weeks.
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    That looks really nice. What mix did you use for the wax?
     
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    Thanks! I used Exy's waxing recipe.
     
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    Took @sporks idea to stop my sitpad escaping.
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    Thanks!
     
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    How do you get the sitpad out?
     
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    ... I'll test it later but I think I can just slip mine out the side. If not I'll make the paracord longer so I can slide the paracord over each side of the sitpad.
    I'll keep ya posted!

    Edit: My sitpad wasn't able to slide in and out :confused: so I have extended the paracord so it will slip over sides of the sit pad. Problem solved :dblthumb:
     
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    Working on my M60 today. Any ideas on how to remove this rivet from the leather strap? I’ve come up with a great way to connect the straps, but want to get rid of the riveted part of the strap.
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    Ok nevermind, it took all of 10 seconds to drill out. Easy peasy.

    I’m super stoked about how I decided to handle the straps! I’ll sew the top part back together to fix it to the top loop, and the bottom part just needs a quick squeeze with some pliers. It’s also still adjustable which is great. This also gives me plenty of extra straps to use for a chest strap and bottom straps for my blanket!


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    Is it comfortable to carry like that?
    So, you just drilled the rivet out?

    I got about half of 37 waxed today. Hope to finish tomorrow and I’ll post pics. It looks good.
     
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    Yup, just drilled through the center until it was easy enough to pop off with a flathead screwdriver. The photo just has a single strap shown, but I’ll be putting both straps on so it will be a normal pack setup, should be comfortable as can be expected. I’m also likely going to put a chest strap on where the existing rivet holes are as they seem to be in the right spot when I’ve got the pack on.
     
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    The hooks on the bread bag are to attach to the belt to give the bag extra support when worn with the strap to keep the bag from flopping around when running or moving around. Even the picture below is for a German bread bag from WWII, the principal is still the same.

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    I hope this helped. Cheers!
     
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    Good job on finding and displaying the details of the hooks! :dblthumb:
     
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    Heads UP! I just checked the Major Surplus link above and they are back in stock. 13 bucks.
     
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    Today, I will be waxing gibbous... :p That is, applying wax to a ‘hump’ shaped object. I turned the ‘breadbag’ inside out so I could wax the pockets. That resulted in a hump shaped object that will be waxed. :D I put some tin cans inside the pockets to make it easier to apply the wax.

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    The ends of the removable strap will also be done as will the bag for my copper coffee pot. The rest of 37 will get waxed too. (My M60 pack has a name... :rolleyes: )

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    Also, I think I will use a double layer of that shelf padding stuff and the soft leather to pad the original shoulder straps a bit.
     
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    That’s done. It seems that the wax ‘blooms’ for days after coating. Melting it back in seems to work. Will take a while. Plus, the BLO takes a while to polymerize too.

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    The little striped bag was standing on the coffee table like a flower pot, and my lady picked it up and admired it. I know the next thing will be for me to make bags for her to fill with flowers and stuff.
    Next to put a load in the pack and put the straps on and wear it. I am thinking I may need to make the straps longer. :rolleyes:
     
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    I got the pack fitted to my fat old body today. I probably won’t do anything to the shoulder straps except maybe install that padding and leather cover. I did get my belt attached to the straps and I like it. Now to decide what goes on the belt. I want it to be quickly detachable, which it is, and carry anything I might need on a short walk away from camp/pack.

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    The loops for the belt support came from a set of pack straps I got from Varusteleka for cheap. I bought two sets for the hardware and webbing. There are TEN of the small 5Col ranger bands that make this setup work. Everything is held in place but is easily adjustable and the belt or pack can be unhooked if needed. The belt can be used with the shoulder straps and without the pack. Pretty neat.

    Now the belt needs some TLC. Edging and dye and wax are in it’s future. Thanks to @bladesmith3 for finding that at a thrift shop. It is perfect. Big enough to go around my fat middle and over a jacket if needed.
     
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    Just ordered one, and a teapot...
     
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    This looks a lot better. The belt is a Klein tool belt. They must not put any treatment at all on the leather. It is really a nice piece of leather, thick and strong, but VERY dry. So, it sucked up a bunch of stain and then two coats of leather conditioner were rubbed in and it was burnished.

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    Now that I know this is all going to work and how it fits, I will make 3 of these loops. Then all the suspension/gear carrying stuff will be leather.

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    Thanks to @Mr. Tettnanger ’s thread of earlier today, I got up to get something done. No matter how small.
    I was looking through my picture files and discovered that this little pack (37 is her name) has been with me for about a year now. I have been working and planning and fiddling with it since I got it. I believe that it is finally ready to load up and go for a walk!
    I know there will always be little things to tweak (patches, strap padding, etc) but the pack is good to go now.

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    “I get by with a little help from my friends”
    Many of the features of this pack were either from or inspired by my friends here. @Luchtaine ‘s pack inspired the handle and provided the shoulder straps (by way of @SmilinJoe ). The belt was found in a thrift shop by @bladesmith3 . Lots of ideas have been stolen and put in place. Thanks everyone.
    More to come I am sure.
     
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    Mmmm, leather and waxed canvas go together like chocolate and peanut butter. You've done some great work there.
     
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    Looking good @NevadaBlue!

    Lak lamb and too-na feesh!
     
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    I think we need pics of you wearing it now! :)
     
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    Maybe tomorrow. My lady said I look like someone walking in the Alps... LOL

    So, another couple of little things.

    First, for all you who love your M60 pack... there is a secret compartment in each one! I made mine accessible today. Been thinking of this one for a long time and finally decided to do the work. The top flap on all M60s is a double layer. Perfect place for an ‘office’ or whatever. I think mine will get a little journal and a pen and a pair of glasses at least.

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    I just cut a slit in the inside layer and sewed in a flap. The flap came from the sacrificed Italian ruck. I have more material for later projects too. I decided on snaps for this one.

    And for the final treat for the day... CHOCOLATE. Like @SmilinJoe said, like chocolate and peanut butter.
    Just before Christmas, @Chevrolet4x4s sent me a piece of leather as a gift. Not just any leather, but a much coveted Wander patch! So, today it found the home I have been planning for it. MORE chocolate! (Thanks Shane! )

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    I hand sewed the flap in the ‘office’, but this is much more difficult, so I used the stitching awl. This was the first use of the smaller needle for it and it worked well. There is a little ID pocket on the Italian pack flap and I had left it in place, trying to decide what to do about it. Now I know. I used it.

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    That sewing wasn’t easy, but I managed it. I stitched the bottom 2/3s of the patch through the flap and the top third or so is sewed only to the flap of the ID pocket. This creates another little secret pocket. Wasn’t easy, but it will be fun to hide something in there.
     
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    While working on the belt kit for this outfit, I discovered that the French 1-1/2 quart canteen, cup and stove will fit into the USGI Molle canteen carrier just fine! That means I can have a cook set on my belt along with the water supply. Fuel tabs and lighter will fit in the outside pockets on the carrier with room to spare. Cool!

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    The hawk has a mask now.

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    And the office has a journal.

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    Excellent, I’m off to read the report. :)
     
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    Yay! I finally sewed the shoulder straps on to the top and added the buckles onto the bottom using another strip of leather riveted to the bag. I dyed all of the original leather a little darker to match the anything new that I added.

    I also pulled out the two center grommets and added a leather handle onto the top using two new grommets so that the cinch wouldn’t be effected.

    On the bottom I used two of the original belt attachment straps to lash my blanket through the existing canvas lash points.

    I still plan on adding some leather straps to each side for an axe/saw and possibly some extra pouches.

    I’d also like to do something similar to the top as what @NevadaBlue has done (adding an additional larger flap) and add in the secret pocket on the existing flap.

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    Bottom of shoulder strap connected to new leather buckle strap attached by rivets.
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    New leather handle (grommets). Original shoulder straps dyed and sewn onto original metal rings.
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  47. NevadaBlue

    NevadaBlue —- Roughian #7 -— --- Graybeard -— Supporter Bushcraft Friend Bushclass I

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    @John from Alberta , some of your pics are missing. Looks good but I only see one pic.
     
  48. John from Alberta

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    Thanks. Pics should be there now.
     
  49. NevadaBlue

    NevadaBlue —- Roughian #7 -— --- Graybeard -— Supporter Bushcraft Friend Bushclass I

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    Yes, thank you. Very nice work. That is a neat idea for the handle. Kudos!
     
  50. Duncsquatch

    Duncsquatch Heed the call. Supporter

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    Looks great, what kind of wool coat is that?
     

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