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Diabetes - staring me in the eyes!

Discussion in 'Bush Medicine' started by Mr. Tettnanger, Aug 16, 2014.

  1. Mr. Tettnanger

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    It looks like I may have diabetes. My last three blood tests have all shown high numbers and my most recent test came back high as well. The nurse encouraged me to really start taking this serious and start eating right and exercising. The doctor wants to give me 3 months to get my act together before getting into medication.

    My mom, my older brother, and my dad's two brothers have it. One just lost his leg to it and will probably be losing the other one as well! I work for an eye doctor and know the havoc that it can do to the eyes!

    I know that my eating habits suck! I am a carb junkie. Breads, pasta, pretzels male up a large part of my diet! Then there is the beer! Man.........I love my beer! I realize that my love affair with beer has to change!

    I also know that I need to get up off of my ass and get moving more!

    I would appreciate any help, advice, food tips, guidance that you could give! I have a lot to learn and I am determined to be healthier!

    Thanks!
     
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    Search youtube for a video "forks over knives". I know several diabetics that say it helped them
     
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    It's amazing what a little exercise and water can do start small and try to get some support around you. Maybe plan a walk each evening and increase time distance and intensity slowly Don't do too much changing at once with diet activity etc. lifestyle changes. Most hospitals offer support groups and or diabetic education take advantage if free support! Pm me if you need a kick in the butt. Take care of yourself friend!
     
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    my 2 cents

    i was diagnosed with it 6 years ago and completely changed my life. i knew it ran in my family and blew it off cause i was in the Army and worked out everyday. I was good until i broke my neck on duty and couldnt work out but kept eating. so to me i took it as a slap in the face after being in the Army and the medical field. Now to my advise while it scared the shit out of me for the various reasons you mentioned i said i wont go down like that. I completely quit drinking, smoking, eating carbs and went on a very strict diet. now i still coulnt work out due to my neck, atleast not as hard as i used to but i stuck to the diet and now work out a little everyday. my A1C went from 8.0 to 5.2 and im off any meds. My advice is get help dont be afraid to ask and get pissed off at this desease if it makes you eat right and excersice. i can tell you ive lost 50lbs and feel great as well as being active again is a plus. Ill stop rambling but if you want any of my advise id be glad to help. Another quick thing is my wife totally got into it as well and its something that we share together. i doesnt have to rule your life and i dont miss Beer anymore. Good Luck and GOD Speed.
     
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    I was told I was pre diabetic 18 months ago. What worked for me was high protein, low carb, low fat, and walking 3 to 5 miles per day. That was now close to 80 pounds ago with no more worries of being diabetic.
     
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    With your family history and your self acknowledged poor diet and lack of exercise, and your doctor's strong warnings, what more do you need? If all that doesn't motivate you to change your ways, there's nothing anybody here can tell you that will help. But I will try. Start changing your diet and start getting some exercise in small steps. Cut your beer intake by 1/2, don't try to go cold turkey. Cut your intake of all the bad food by 1/2 also. Start going for walks, nothing too extreme, maybe 1/2 mile or so to start. Do this for a month. Then do it all again. When you are down to 1 or 2 beers a day and you are eating right (and you know what right is, don't you?), and you are walking 10 miles a week, then just keep doing that. What you have now are bad habits. You need to replace them with good habits. It will be hard at first, but within 3 or 4 months you will be on a whole new track. If you don't, you will be on the same track you're on now, and you know where that leads. Good luck, friend.
     
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    I have been on a bit of my own health kick as if late and I think it could really help you. I have some bad news for you. You are a diabetic. That's bad news but you can fix it with diet. Another piece of bad news is you may be an alcoholic. That's ok too. I love beer and I love whiskey more. I can drink a pitcher of beer and eat a large pizza and really enjoy myself. Can you live on one slice and a single beer? You can get to that point with a lot of hard work.

    So here is my diet I have been on. I will update it again.
    http://bushcraftusa.com/forum/showthread.php/126393-Big-Bend-trip-so-this-fat-man-is-on-a-diet
     
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    Hey Brother; I understand your alarm! I don’t know how old you are. I would assume Middle aged because that is when we have to start facing these things.
    I quit drinking 24 years ago. I was a problem drinker. I go camping, play gigs, hang out with friends who may drink beer, and I do it all with coffee, iced tea, seltzer water with lime or what have you. I can just as easily sit down by the fire with my camping buddy (him sipping whiskey) and drink my tea. And I enjoy it as much (almost). But it is enough.
    Recently I had some health problems with my GI system. Basically what will work for me is cutting out Wheat, most starches, eating spuds only once in a while. Lots of protein and veggies. No dairy and limited sugar. It was very hard at first. It is like an addiction. But I did it and have been doing quite well. And if I can do it anyone can.
    SInce I got better and had strength I was determined to put on weight and muscle and I have been exercising for 6 months now. I know my problems were not what you have but the point I am trying to make is that a 49 year old man cCOMPLETELY changed his whole style of eating. and I enjoy what I eat too.
    All this to say YOU CAN DO THIS. It may not feel like it now but you may be surprised at how good you feel, how much energy you may have after a year of living right.
    You will find new things to eat and cook on the fire. You will loose weight, and your exercise will make you stronger. This will make you a better bushcrafter. Your family will like having you around longer.
    I say again You can do this
     
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    diabetes can be beaten!

    Yup brotha, that sucks, but luckily with this one (generally) there is something you can do about it. There is no magic on this one... just gotta eat right and exercise, and drop pounds. Everything you put in your face, look at it and say 'is this worth losing a leg over?' A huge percentage of time, eating right, exercising, and dropping excess weight is ALL that is needed to completely remove the threat of diabetes from your life. If you can dig deep and find that willpower and will to live without the meds, failed dieting vicious circle, and worse; amputations, sickness and lethargy, dying prematurely... then you will be fine. Better than fine, you'll be good to go! For me, the fear of those things far outweighs the temporary satisfactions of the donuts, and the like. Food is fuel, and you'll have to start thinking that way... eat to live, eat to sustain life and provide the energy to do what you are going to do. If you are going to do very little, then you need to eat very little. The exercise is fundamental to it all working as well, and working quickly.

    This one can be defeated. You just gotta want it bad, and then just do it. The power is in all of us, just have to find it and tell yourself how badly you want to live a long, healthy, fruitful life.

    Sorry if any of that came across as condescending or insensitive... I hope not, just trying to help motivate ya. It sounds like you already know what needs to be done. Best of luck to you on it, win brotha, win. I am a former personal trainer, and would be happy to help with questions about food... and as well, I know there is are probably a lot of guys here that would help too.

    Not sure what your knowledge level is on food, but if you are really a 'beginner' when it comes to food and nutrition, and haven't much of a clue... here is 1 quick tip to start ya off without worrying about calories, carbs, sugar content etc... Stop eating so much stuff that is beige. Look at the overall color of what you are eating and drinking. There should be very little that is in the beige family. Multicolored, varied is good. Also, smaller meals, more often. Stokes the fire. We might have to change your avatar to a broccoli floret as well ;)
     
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    Lots of good advice so far....and you do have your work cut out for you....but,

    Mr. T....you didn't ask for it....but YOU are going to get it.....will be lifting YOU up in Prayer DAILY!

    Grace, Mercy, and Healing......GOD Speed!


    Blessings!
     
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    Go Paleo, brother! It will get you on the right track. I was being diagnosed as "pre-diabetic" and once I went Paleo, my numbers dropped dramatically. You can do it!

    Scott
     
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    Lots of good information here. Ill give my basic breakdown

    1. Food journal. Record EVERYTHING that goes in your mouth. The easiest way I have found to do this is via a smartphone app called myplate. You can easily enter your food servings, estimate calories based off of common foods, and even scan food labels. Its very user friendly and easy to use. This quickly teaches you what food are carb and calorie packed and you learn to eat them in small portions.

    2. Get a food scale. It teaches you how big (or small) serving sizes really are.

    3. Avoid refined sugars (candies, cake, chocolate etc) and keep fruit sugars to a minimum.

    4. Eat lots of lean protein and leafy greens at every meal. Keep dairy to a minimum

    5. Have a cheat meal every week (some ppl have a whole cheat day but dont over due it)

    6. Drink lots of water. Have a glass before every meal, during the meal and throughout the day. Keep diet sodas to only one or two a day.

    7. Finally exercise every day (or 6 days a week). If all you can do is walk then do that. Slowly work up the distance/ speed/ and weight carried. If you can incorporate strength training 2-3 times a week even better.

    Ill restate the importance of a food journal and keeping track of all that goes into the body. This will be the biggest hurdle. Good luck and reach out to me or any of us if you want more info on training plans, diets, motivation etc. I have some good beginning training programs on PDF I can email you if you want.
     
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    Time to take action my friend. No pity parties or "why me?" and all the other self-reflective stuff. It can be beaten and thousands have done it. I encourage you to go out and buy the book "The Coconut Diet" and start reading it today and start on the diet tomorrow. You WILL become more healthy than you've ever been and all your numbers will improve. This is not some bizarre food stuff with minimal food. It is a totally sustainable way of life THAT WORKS. It really is diet and exercise.......in that order.
     
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    This.

    Also, check out www.marksdailyapple.com.

    Start with the success stories. Once you can tear yourself away from reading them, search the site for diabetes. Learn some things. Be amazed. Get healthy. I did. I was. Then I did. You can too.
     
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    Been Paleo 2 1/2 years. Healthier at 40 than I was at 25.
     
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    My father is diabetic and takes insulin daily. In april I stepped on the scale and saw 270#. I didn't need to go to a doctor to know I was treading on thin ice. I started eating paleo( had worked for me splendidly in the past) foregoing the high carb fruits the first 2 months. I lost 20# before I even started exercising. Around 2 months in started working out again, and as of today i'm @ 230# and feel better than I ever have. I have heard several stories of people who have stuck to this diet and lost 100+ lbs and even gotten off insulin. Whatever way you go, making better conscious food choices and adding exercise are good ideas. Don't try to do everything at once. And don't try to overdo exercise(I almost killed myself trying to do same workouts I did at 18 lol). Good luck to you sir.
     
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    I earned a quick trip to the ER due to undiagnosed diabetes. My A1C was 11.6. It is now 5.4. Like everyone has said the best thingfor me was 3 things.

    1. A low carb diet.

    2. Exercise

    3. Testing my blood sugar 6 to 8 times a day infirst 3 or 4 months to really find outhow mybody reacted to the different foods I ate, and the different types and amounts of exercise.

    I learned a lot from a website called bloodsugar101.com. I highly recommend it. Next, I also found a replacement for white flour and suger. The flour replacement is called Carbalose. It real wheat flour treated with enzymes. The treatment reduces the carbs by about 85 to 90 percent (I will use that for the BushClass bannock lesson). The sugar replacement is called Erythritol. It is a sugar alcohol that has no noticeable effects on blood sugar levels.

    Seriously, go look at bloodsugar101.com. It is a geat resource, especially for newly diagnosed diabetics.

    Lastly, don't let being a daibetic stop you from activites you like such as bushcraft or just enjoying life. It's a disease that can be effectively managed or even "reversed" with a few lifestyle changes.
     
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    It's rough but the good news is that it is not too late to turn things around, you can be healthier than you were 20 yrs ago and feel better as well. Lots of good advice already given so I won't repeat it, I'll just add a few things...
    1) Fresh veggies are your friend, LOTS of them! Look up some recipes, and whatever you do don't overcook them or they will taste gross. Most folks who hate veggies are overcooking them. Eat a big serving of veggies with every meal, even breakfast; they fill you up, add nutrients, and make you feel better, really.
    2) Switch to non alcoholic beer, and no more than 2 a day (tough, I know, but your liver doesn't need any extra work right now, and it's just extra carbs). If you have an alcohol addiction now is the time to face up to it; it's worth it.
    3) Set a new goal for yourself for something fun that you've always wanted to do, but couldn't because you were too out of shape. It could be anything from climbing a mountain or hiking the AT, to taking a Yoga class or going ballroom dancing. But you have to have something FUN that you WANT TO DO to motivate you, not just the fear of all the horrible things that await you if you don't shape up etc. Basic psychology, positive motivation works better than fear.
    4) Find a kind of exercise that you ENJOY that you can do every day, ideally a few different things so you can mix it up a bit. If you like company join a gym, a class or work out with a buddy.
    5) Let nature be your inspiration, remember, your body WANTS to heal, let your inner paleo-man roam free!
    Hang in there, we are all cheering you on!
     
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    I want to thank everybody for their help and encouragement!

    Over the last few weeks, I have made small changes in my eating. I tell my wife....small steps!

    1.) Cut out my morning tea/coffee. I usually have 2-3 cups in the morning. I add 2-3 teaspoons of sugar to each, so stopping them was a no brainer!

    2.) Water intake - I already drink a fair amount of water during the day at work. I have started drinking more of it at home as well. This is pretty easy because water is all that my wife drinks! I have started to put lemons in the water to mix it up a bit. I may try some other flavorings....any ideas? Limes? Raspberries? Any infusion type concoctions to liven things up? I have been drinking a lot of unsweetened green tea as well.

    3.) Beer - I have cut back on the amount that I usually drink. I have started to substitute some "Light" beers in the mix. This is tough because I like big, bold, hoppy, ales! I know that by cutting back the volume and mixing in some lighter beers will help. I do not feel as compelled to have one more when one more is a light beer! I have also decided that I will not be buying beer by the case anymore. I will resort to getting a growler filled at the local brewery (Victory Brewing by the way!) instead of buying a case. I think that this will help with my intake as well!

    4.) Snacking - I am not much of a snacker really. I don't eat cakes, sweets, deserts, or stuff like that. I will have the occasional ice cream, but rarely. What I do snack on are things like crackers, Doritos, pretzels, stuff like that. I don't do potato chips, I gave them up about two years ago. I have started to snack on carrots and broccoli. They are not the same, but it gives me that crunch sensation.

    5.) Sodas - I have never been much of a soda guy. I do enjoy 2-3 a week and a RedBull now and then = STOPPED!

    Breads and pastas are where I think that I will struggle the most! I have started cutting back on them and when I do have them, I make a real effort to not take two plates worth of spaghetti and meatsauce!



    I debated about starting this thread for a while. I was not looking for sympathy. I knew that others here have or may be facing the same issues! I knew that the awesome members here would step in with sound advice, helpful tips, places to turn, and encouragement! I also knew that a few would give me a swift kick in the ass and tell me to get after it!

    Thanks for delivering guys!
     
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    That is about the most simple/accurate answer that can be given.
     
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    Mr Tettnanger,

    I too, have diabetes and found out in 2010. It has been a battle for me to eat right, exercise, and give up the beer. I can do well for periods of time, but then I start eating the wrong foods and my doctor sees it in my tests. Your thread has inspired me to get back on track. I know what to do and it sounds like you are starting down the right path. Good luck and don't beat yourself up too bad if you occasionally make a wrong choice in foods, you need a treat once in a while or you'll go crazy. Just start over next day and focus on keeping your will.

    Good luck, man.

    -Mike D
     
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    I too have type II diabetes I did in the beginning loose over 75lbs,by walking and dieting,I have been backsliding the past two years.I also enjoy beer,I am very glad you posted this it is awake up call to many of us backsliders,the exercising is very important as mentioned in an earlier post 3-5 miles a day did work for me also.My daily routine started off with a 1 cup bowel of fiber1 cereal and black coffee,and for lunch a Turkey sandwich with a yougart and a bottle of water.Supper included more protein like chicken or turkey with a vegetable and an apple,I ate lots of apples,then my 4 mile walk.I know everybodys different but this is what worked for me,you have a good support group hear,if needed.
    Buckhenry
     
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    Thanks for the post Mr. T and useful thread responses. I'm staring at the same issues. I just got a cargo bike (Surly Big Dummy) to help increase the fun/utility/exercise factor. Great for major hauls from the Farmer's Market.
    To better health!
     
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    HELLO. Heres my advice from having a similiar problem.

    BTW, we're also fellow PAFOA members cool..Anyway, about 2 years ago I was put on cholesterol meds by my doctor. I HATE taking any man-made drugs and rarely take tylenol or aspirin. That pill actually made me feel funny and bothered my stomach..So I joined a local gym called Any Time fitness. Since I'm a machinist and work the lovely second shift, all the other gyms close shortly after I get off work. Any Time is 24/7.. After 6 months of working out 3-4 days a week and dropping 20lbs I was off my meds! And all my blood tests were better in other categories as well ! I'm not a morning person at all and could never wake up to work out. Way back in my military days I always worked out after work. No matter what shift I was on it was.. "Go to the gym after work. PERIOD". I'm 45 years old and drug free and my goal is to stay that way. Its a miracle how the human body can dial itself back in with a little weight lifting, bike riding and walking.. Good luck CD
     
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    Diet change and weight loss are the big keys to beating (or living with) diabetes.

    Stay away from carbs as much as possible, your body turns them into sugar, which you don't need since your body is having a problem processing right now.

    The only warning about red meat is that too much will raise your triglycerides and your HDL (high density lipids) will rise. Not a good thing.

    Turn to a lot of proteins, like chicken, turkey, pork (except bacon - sorry), cheese, cottage cheese, other dairy products, nuts, etc. Check google for high protein foods or go to www.calorie-charts.net and check out the foods you eat for fats, calories and protein content.

    Your life will change with this disease. Having someone in your family who has lost a limb to diabetes should tell you that this is serious.

    I've had the disease for a number of years and have to take insulin twice daily. It's not difficult but not fun, either.

    Good luck. PM me if you ever need advice, but it looks like you're getting some good advice here as well.

    Steve
     
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    I was recently diagnosed with diabetes(type 2). Since then, I have altered much of my eating habits. I have always been a big pasta fan, usually had a few pasta meals a week. My diet wasn't really that awful abnormal. I do some different things for meals and snacks(especially snacks). Rather than having a few pasta meals every week, I've cut down to maybe one. Here's a few things that I've altered in my meals.

    -I actually eat breakfast now. Usually breakfast was a rare occasion, but now I need to eat regularly, so I always have breakfast.
    -I put myself on a meal schedule. I have breakfast before 9:30 at latest. Lunch is around 12:00p-1:00pm. Dinner is between 5:00pm-6:00pm typically. By having a schedule, I can manage my glucose better. I know, for example, if I don't need insulin in the morning, I'll probably need it at dinner, or vice versa.
    -Instead of making having a regular sandwich, I use Ole Mexican Extreme Wellness tortillas. Here's the thing about these: they have 14g of gross carbs, but 9g are fiber, so I can discount those 9g, and that means my carbs are down to 4g. I'll typically make a peanut butter and jelly sandwich wrap thing. My peanut butter is about 6g net, and the strawberry low sugar jam is about 6g. Which means my sandwich is only about 16g, or roughly 1 serving. I usually do roughly about 130g+/- per day.
    -I'll do a small bowl of ice cream for many desserts. I do much less than I used to do.
    -Often, for a snack, I will do something like cheese, string cheese, pepperoni, beef snacks, etc. Pepperoni is less than one carb per serving and I'll open some up, put some medium wing sauce on the plate, and dip the pepperonis in the sauce. Absolutely delicious. I use hot sauce and mustard a lot more often now, because they are usually a "carb free" seasoning for foods. Cheese is essentially carb free, and some beef snacks.
    -I do eat some snacks that could are candy bars, but have far few carbs. I used to eat Reese's fairly regularly, now Reese's is a rare treat. Instead, I'll do "Justin's Organic Peanut Butter Cups", which are 18g with 2g of fiber, so about 16g per pack.
    -I also do things like "Balance Bars", my favorite being the peanut butter bar. Balance Bars are pretty low on the Glycemic Index, the peanut butter ones are 28 on the GI. http://www.balance.com/40-30-30/
    -I'll get a couple of cheeseburgers if I stop by a burger shop, but I'll take the buns off of one burger, and put the burger in with the other one. Or I'll take off the tops or bottoms(depending on where the sauces are) of the burger and eat it that way.

    I don't completely cut out carbs, but I have cut them significantly back. Diabetes is mostly genetic, and while diet may cause diabetes to speed up, diet doesn't really cause diabetes as much as people think.
     
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    Lots of good posts, and sounds like you are on your way. From your last post, sounds like you have already made some good changes and know what needs to be done... so maybe the exercise portion is what is what will help the most. That, and really focusing on the details of your diet... some little things that maybe some folks don't think about, like:

    If you need, let's say, 1900 calories on a weight loss plan, and you should be trying for 5-6 small meals a day, then that is only about 320 per... that is pretty different than what most of us are used to taking in. Hard to do, but breaking it down like that and trying for a while should really help with getting more in line with what a healthy body actually wants/needs. Different way to look at each meal.

    Or, like earlier meals having more carbs than ones later in the day (more protein) to properly fuel and repair the body.

    Or, like exercising in the morning, before any meals can really accelerate the metabolism for the day. Beyond just the simple benefit of the exercise alone.

    Water: try cucumber and lemon. I am not a fan of water, I like tea and coffee, but this flavored water got me to really ramp it up, and kept it interesting. There's nothing really wrong with coffee and tea, in moderation of course. It is maybe the additives. Try a sugar substitute maybe. Or even honey, honey is just slightly differently processed by the body than a refined sugar. Of course, if you have the willpower, the more simple carbs you can cut, the better. Maybe try a green tea also, if you haven't already.
     
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    I was told I had Type 2 a bit over a year and a half ago. I just changed my diet and exercised more. I managed to drop about 60 pounds and get my blood sugar reading in the normal range. I don' eat as many potatoes any more, but I still have beer, although not in the quantities I used to.

    Eric
     
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    Speaking personally the only thing I have found that worked for me was to make exercise a part of something I do anyway. I HATE GYMS. I ride a bicycle to work and practice martial arts... the other has been not cutting out things I like to eat just change the habit to only cooking what I will eat now. No left overs from the start. Keep the fridge with only necessary fresh items and go grocery shopping a few times a week. Cut all recipes down to one portion only. No more snacking. Don't even buy stuff to snack on. Also don't even try to go the route of "diet" products. They are so full of junk that they will just lead down the wrong path and they are expensive. Most of these paleo and non gluten or raw diets kind of go the same route but you don't have to be that harsh. Also cutting out all the pre made items that come in boxes or the freezer isle are just not good either. Best thing is to make everything from scratch as much as possible. After a while of doing that it will become fun to try new recipes, because you can and they are tasty. Also the longer it takes for your body to break something down the longer you will feel full. Eating something like steel cut oatmeal for breakfast will keep you full till lunch. Eat a bowl of rice crispies and you need to have a snack twenty minutes later. Same thing goes to comparing a farmers rye bread vs wonderbread.
     
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    Paleo diet, less red meats and more poultry/fish, lots of vegetables but not to much fruit and walk what you can handle 5-6 days a week.

    NO refined carbs, sodas, pasta, "dried" fruit.

    You should figure out how many carbs you were doing in a single day compared to where you are now and then figure out how to get them down to 100 or less a day. There was a time I was at 20-30 carbs a day and I was loosing weight so fast I couldn't put new holes in my belt fast enough. My happy spot was around 100. Quinoa and lentils became my friend.

    My A1C was a 6 and I went paleo and it's now a 5.4, when I was told I was pre diabetic I was pretty upset for a bit but I was determined to do something about it so I went paleo, I already walked 4-5 miles a day at work but I still did 3-4 miles 4 days a week at the gym on the elliptical and I dropped 40 lbs in 10 months, no more elevated A1C and that was 4 years ago.

    You just have to be willing to change.
     
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    Well Mr. T, you've gotten more than enough good advice. I'm going to self diagnose as pre-diabetic as it runs in my family too and I have/had all the classic symptoms. I'm overweight and have terrible eating habits as well. I've managed to get my weight and sugar under control following a lot of the advice above. My key has been to not put myself into dietary/habit shock (baby steps). 40 lbs. ago (310 in April), I started on a keto type diet with no intention of actually getting into ketosis. The idea was to get rid of the carbs, thereby, eating healthier and reducing my sugar. I did it as much to be a good example for my dad, who is diabetic and very suborn, as myself. What I've learned is that I like what I like and completely moving away from that wasn't going to work out long term. What I've done is found ways to make what I like, or something that is really close to it, healthier/smarter so the change goes mostly unnoticed in my diet. I didn't even cut my portion sizes until my weight flat lined a couple weeks ago. To that end, PM me and rather than advice I'll give you some favorite new recipes/substitutions that are working great for me. You might send me your likes and dislike so I can target your taste better. Oh, and hang on to your wallet, because this healthy eating thing is not cheap even though I do most of my shopping at Costo. Best of luck, and you can do it!
     
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    T - one of my best friends is a surgeon and specializes in foot surgery. He tells me constantly that if most of his patients would simply pay attention to their diet, keep their feet dry and clean, and do some basic exercise then he would be out of business.

    Good luck. Every diabetic that I know who does well are the ones who understand what food is important with relation maintaining blood glucose levels.

    Typically they eat something all day in small portions. My very best for you in this new challenge in your life but diabetes treatment continues to improve. Take care.
     
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    Highly suggest either low carb diet or phase one diet from Doug Kauffman
    Diets suck and you have to prepare yourself for not eating bad anymore. Remember you are what you eat and diabetes reflect your bad choices. Most people don't change and take a pill but the pill can only do so much and it causes side effects
    Diabetes usually can be controlled by eating right and yes exercise
    Make exercise fun though it doesn't have to miserable
    I also would have your vitamin & mineral levels checked
    A lot of time if your chromium or vanadium levels are low you will show high sugar levels
    Diet ,exercise and propper supplements can bring you back to normal ranges
    With no harsh prescriptions or side effects
    Best of luck you can do it!
     
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    Good Eats: Post'em if you got'em

    Let's help each other out and Mr. T out in a meaningful manner. You don't have to give up good food to eat right and I've found some great low or reduced carb recipes along my journey. They aren't perfect, but are better than doing without. I'll post a few of mine to get it going.

    Fauxtatoes... Who doesn't love mashed potatoes?

    Steam 1 head/bag of cauliflower with about 1/3 that amount of cubed butternut squash for 15 minutes or until tender.
    Put the steamed veggies in a blender with your usual mashed potato add-ins and puree. Danger close to the real deal.
    I personally add garlic powder, salt, pepper, 1 stick equivalent of real (Kerrygold) butter, and a splash of condensed milk.
    You can dial the butternut up or down depending on your personal preference or the carbs/serving you find acceptable. They are OK without, but taste a lot more like the real deal with the squash included. Given the carbs, these are more of a treat without going whole hog in my diet.

    Brownies... (The butter/sour cream mix is more moist)

    Coconut Flour Brownies, revisited–Gluten-free and Delicious!

    http://healthyindulgences.net/2009/05/coconut-flour-brownies-revisited-gluten-free-and-delicious/

    A note about ingredients: Use the highest quality pastured butter you can find for optimal results. I bought a bunch of Kerrygold butter on sale, and have found that it lends such a pleasant buttery taste to everything I use it in. So worth the not-on-sale price! I’ll be using Kerrygold in the recipes you see here from now on. When baking with no sugar and no flour, it’s recommended to use the best of the ingredients we CAN work with! Also, for those of you who don’t use erythritol, I’m pretty sure these brownies would work with 1/4 cup raw honey and 3/4 teaspoon of stevia. This will add 68 grams net carbs to the recipe, making each brownie about 9.5 grams net carbs. Be aware that with the honey/stevia combo, they won’t be as sweet as traditional brownies.
    Remember to keep your mitts off of these for a full night in the fridge. I don’t know why, but it seems that baked goods made with coconut flour take a full night to “settle” into their full decadent yumminess. Just make up a batch, toss ‘em in the freezer, and go to bed or do something to avoid cutting into this chocolately goodness until it achieves its full potential!
    Healthy Coconut Flour Brownies
    Serves 12-16
    Ingredients:
    4 ounces cream cheese, softened
    1 1/2 sticks salted organic butter (3/4 cup), softened
    OR 1 stick butter, 8 ounces sour cream (for more moist brownies)
    1 tablespoon pure vanilla extract
    4 large eggs
    1 cup sifted Bob’s Red Mill coconut flour
    3/4 cup erythritol or xylitol OR 1/3 cup honey
    1/2 teaspoon NuNaturals pure stevia extract (increase to 1 teaspoon if using honey)
    1/4 teaspoon sea salt
    1/4 teaspoon aluminum-free baking powder
    1/3 cup unsweetened cocoa powder
    1/3 cup organic heavy cream
    1/2 cup chopped pecans or walnuts
    Preparation:
    Preheat oven to 350 degrees Fahrenheit.
    Brush both sides of an 8″ by 8″ (or 11″ by 7″ for thinner brownies) pan with coconut oil, or spray with extra virgin olive oil cooking spray. Place a cut square of parchment paper in the bottom of the pan.
    Beat softened cream cheese with electric mixer until smooth. Beat in butter, vanilla, and sweetener. Whisk together dry ingredients. Add eggs one at a time to cream cheese mixture, and beat until incorporated. Add dry ingredients and heavy cream. Fold in nuts. Pour chocolate mixture into prepared pan, and smooth top with a spatula. Bake at 350 degrees for 40 minutes for the wider pan, or until toothpick inserted in center comes out clean, and top feels firm to the touch. When done, place pan on wire rack and cool completely. Cool pan of brownies overnight in the refrigerator. Slice into 12-16 squares, and serve. Store in the refrigerator in an airtight container, or freeze cut brownies, individual wrapped in plastic and aluminum foil.
    ~4g net carbs and ~250 calories per 1/12th of a recipe
     
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    Creamy Chicken Spaghetti

    http://thepioneerwoman.com/cooking/2011/02/creamy-chicken-spaghetti-casserole/

    The link is the original recipe with changes noted below:

    Description
    A creamy, dreamy comfort food delight. Cooked chicken, creamy white sauce, mushrooms, and olives. To die for.
    Ingredients
    • 1 whole Cut Up Fryer Chicken (I use Rotisserie chicken from the deli)
    • 1 stick 1/2 Cup Butter (I increased by two tablespoons - only Kerri Gold!)
    • 16 ounces, weight White Mushrooms, Sliced (I use Baby Bellas)
    • ¼ cups Dry White Wine
    • Kosher Salt And Pepper
    • ¼ cups Flour (need to try carbalose, let me know if you find a good sub here)
    • 2 cups Chicken Broth (reserved From Chicken Or Canned) (I use “Better Than bullion” see spaghetti below)
    • 1-½ cup Whole Milk (I use 1% lactose free milk)
    • ¼ cups (additional) Dry White Wine
    • 1 cup Freshly Grated Parmesan Cheese
    • 1 cup Whole Black Olives, Chopped
    • 1 teaspoon Kosher Salt, Or To Taste
    • Freshly Ground Black Pepper (the more the merrier)
    • Extra Cheese, For Sprinkling (used ½ cup of Parm)
    • 1 pound Thin Spaghetti (used 4 bags of spaghetti replacement, Shirataki, sold in the produces isle. Drain the water out and added about three tablespoons of better than bullion, mixed, and let sit. You could also try spaghetti squash, but I think it would be too watery)
     
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    PHILLY CHEESE STEAK STUFFED PEPPERS

    http://peaceloveandlowcarb.com/2012/06/philly-cheesesteak-stuffed-peppers-low-carb-gluten-free.html

    INGREDIENTS

    8 oz. Thinly Sliced Roast Beef
    8 Slices Provolone Cheese
    2 Large Green Bell Peppers
    1 Medium Sweet Onion – Sliced
    6 oz. Baby Bella Mushrooms – Sliced
    2 Tbs. Butter
    2 Tbs. Olive Oil
    1 Tbs. Garlic – Minced
    Salt and Pepper – to taste
    (2 Tbs. Peace and Love)

    DIRECTIONS

    Slice peppers in half lengthwise, remove ribs and seeds.
    In a large sauté pan over low-medium heat, add butter, olive oil, garlic, mushrooms onions and a little salt and pepper. Sauté until onions and mushroom are nice and caramelized. About 30 minutes.
    Preheat oven to 400°
    Slice roast beef into thin strips and add to the onion/mushroom mixture. Allow to cook 5-10 minutes.
    Line the inside of each pepper with a slice of provolone cheese. Fill each pepper with meat mixture until they are nearly overflowing. Top each pepper with another slice of provolone cheese.
    Bake for 15-20 minutes until the cheese on top is golden brown.
    Prep Time – 15 Minutes
    Cook Time – 50 Minutes
    Makes Servings: 4
    Per Serving:
    Calories – 458
    Protein – 27 g
    Carbs – 8.5 net g
    Fat – 36 g
     
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    I will go ahead and suggest a couple of diets to further confuse you.
    The Paleo Diet is a diet based on what prehistoric man ate. mainly meat and fish proteins, greens, some tubers, berries and tree nuts. Cultivated legumes and rices are a no go. As are sweets. This diet is tough for me. I am mexican. Cutting out rice beans and corn is TOUGH> But the fact that you wont be eating simple carbs and sugars would make it a good diet to loose weight
    You can also Check out the Candida Diet. WHich is designed to promote the correct flora in your gut and inhibit the wrong variety. You cut out sugar for the most part as well. The end result for me was more energy, losing 15% of my body weight and my sleep apnea went away.
    Now I will say that these are hard to follow 100% but progress not perfection. That goes with any plan you follow and your doctor may have better advice than us on the forum.
    I have found ways to keep my sugar intake low. Stevia is a natural plant based sweetener. It is not artificial. It is expensive and also not a perfect sub for sugar. I find that if I put that in my Coffee with just a touch of raw honey, it tastes good and I have cut the amount of sugar by 80%. Lilly’s makes a great line of 4 or 5 chocolate bars that are sweetened by Stevia. They are awesome but about 4 times the price of regular hershey bars. There are lots of other ways to enjoy your food and cut sugar This doesn’t have to be a grim session of deprivation
    I would ask your DR (or better a nutritionalist) about artificial sweeteners like SPlenda and Equal. I read that they have some consequences with regard to glycemic index.
    Of course your medical team should be your main source of this stuff. And do your research. I am only speaking from my experience. I am a Salesman and a Bluegrass flatpicker so what do I know!
    Good luck.
     
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    Oh man this sounds familiar, except with me it's high blood pressure- like, it's been 180/120. Yikes!

    I'm on a moderate medicine now (can't recall the name) but I really have for to get moving more. I'm a computer network engineer so one can imagine how difficult that can be at times.

    Excuses. I need to drop them, and the weight.
     
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    My father has type II, and so did his father. Neither one was overweight. For years I tried to get my dad to eat better, but no dice. Now he's on insulin. He has glaucoma. He's had three strokes. He has difficulty walking related to the strokes and peripheral neuropathy. I used to be a fitness trainer. Everyone is always looking for the secret diet that will let them eat what they want and not exercise. No such thing. None of this stuff is rocket science. You already know what you need to do. Eat better, exercise more. That's it. Your choice. You have a self-induced disease that can be fixed.

    I have metastatic cancer. There is no diet or exercise I can do to fix it. I'd give anything to have a disease I could fix.

    I don't mean to sound harsh or unfeeling, but I watched my dad ignore his problem, knowing all the while that what he was doing was wrong, and now he can't go back and fix it. You have the opportunity to change course. Do it. I truly do wish you the best.
     
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    Some resources on low carb/high fat, ancestral, Paleo, primal eating:

    Websites

    http://www.thepaleomom.com (a lot of autoimmune info here)
    http://civilizedcavemancooking.com (good recipes)
    http://fastpaleo.com (good recipe aggregator site, dedicate iPhone and Android apps!)
    http://robbwolf.com (good well rounded info!)
    www.thepaleodiet.com (Dr. Loren Cordain's site)

    Books

    Wheat Belly
    The Primal Blueprint
    Grain Brain


    Watch the following Movies:

    "Fathead"
    "The Perfect Human Diet"

    I've been eating this way for 2 1/2 years. I went from near 250 to 210. I'm healthier and stronger at 40 than I was at 25. Blood glucose, blood pressure, cholesterol, all "perfect" to quote my doctor. I went from a 42" waist to a 34". XXL shirts snug to L or XL.

    I no longer have acid reflux, migraines, digestive problems, back pain (broke my back in 07 and have a 4 vertebra fusion). I was living on pain meds and antacids. 3 years ago I was walking with a cane more days than not. No more.... Now I hit the gym 4 or 5 days a week and outrun my kids.

    And all the while I eat foods like this.....

    [​IMG]

    Yes that is polish sausage, sauerkraut, and homemade cheddar garlic biscuits (low carb, wheat free, made with coconut flour).
     
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    I went to the doctor this morning for results of a blood test. Not good news.I was diagnosed with metabolic syndrome/pre-diabetes. I am following this thread for some motivation. Need to make some serious changes.
     
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    Coconut flour is the bees knees. Almond flour, too. And so that you don't feel like you have to abandon the bushcrafter in you, I'll see if i can track down the paleo/primal bannock recipe i came up with for bushclass and post it here. Came out pretty good, IIRC.

    Sent from my XT1030 using Tapatalk
     
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    I was diagnosed as a diabetic in April. Not a shock, really. Being Latino and having it on both sides of the family (even the non-Latino one), I knew it was coming.

    I've never been a sweets guy, so that hasn't been an issue. Don't really do pasta. But bread and rice are the staffs of life!

    I simply cut down to a 1/2 cup serving of rice per day, 1 glass of Mountain Dew a day at work (used to drink it all day), eliminated 90% of the processed food I was eating and watch carbs in general.

    My guideline for carb intake is fairly low, but I go even lower. I eat ALL day. Lots of meat, some fat.

    Even without exercise, I'm still down almost 17lbs in under 4 months. 221lbs as of last week. Goal is 205. Low dose of Metformin/Glucophage and my goal is to get off it completely.

    Being a chef by trade helps eliminate eating boring food and helps me figure out how to modify things to fit my diet. I'd be happy to help any of you in coming up with meal plans if you'd like.

    Mario
     
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    God you are some motivating SOBs... :)

    Years ago (15?) I went to the Low-carb (Atkins) lifestyle... I had skads of energy and was dropping weight faster than I could keep up. I was working as a lineman and computer network engineer (Junior type- mostly desktops, NIC installs and such). I was almost in as good of shape as when I'd graduated Basic, 12 years prior. (I would have been 30 at the time I went Atkins). Felt. Friggin'. GREAT.

    Then I stopped doing it. Why? Likely, mental BS. I went through a rough spot about the first 8 years of the new century. No details needed, I was not handling my stress well, and I was moving up the responsibility ladder in my field- now I was sitting on a Tier 3 help desk, working 50-70 hours a week as the lead tech. Mostly sitting on my ass, bored. I get bored, I get hungry. I did this for 6 years.

    BAM! 50 pounds, maybe more. I'm 5'7", I weighed 180 when I got out of Boot (and was actually in good shape, built like a brick ____house). Those of you that remember the height/weight tables know that's a heavy weight for that height- I always had to be taped.

    Now I'm at 250 (chee-rist, just W.T.F? No excuse). Doc is sounding the alarm, and so is the body occasionally- it's time to get this sorted.

    What is the difference between Paleo and Atkins? I don't have the time to do indepth research into each- I have 3 certifications I need to obtain for my career path. Seems to be some knowledge here- can anyone give me a few points difference between the two?

    Thanks again!
     
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    Atkins is low carb, but not necessarily high fat. Hard to maintain because protein doesn't satiate like fats do. Carbs do but its a quick burning fuel that requires you to refuel within a couple hours. On a Paleo/Primal low carb lifestyle you will burn fat for fuel. If you go really low carb (under about 20-30 grams/day) you will enter nutritional ketosis. Your body converts fat to ketones and you get amazing energy levels and rapid weight loss. I generally stay in the 30-50 gram a day range with occasional forays into ketosis and rare occasions where I eat things I normally wouldn't.

    Don't fear saturated fats. The lipid hypothesis peddled by Ancel Keys is a lie. The medical establishment is slowly coming around to acknowledging this.

    Turn the food pyramid upside down, eat fatty meats, eggs, nuts, fresh veggies. Limit fruit (sugar). Limit tubers. Avoid grains and legumes. Cook in tallow, lard, butter, coconut oil. Avoid processed seed oils and margarine.
     
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    Yup. We eat a lot of coconut flour and almond flour in this house. Good thing we have a Trader Joes nearby. Cheap there.
     
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    Get a bicycle. You'll get to where you need to go and get the excercise that you need. There are now bikes that can ride on snow, called fatbikes. Visit the Bicycle Riders thread in the Transportation Forum.
     
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    Personal Pizza

    De-stem portabella mushroom caps and chop the stems
    Put the caps, bottom up in a baking pan and add olive oil, salt pepper and garlic to them.
    Bake at 400* for ~15 minutes
    Remove pan from oven
    Add 1 heaping tablespoon of your favorite pizza sauce and spread evenly ( (I make my own sauce so I can control the carb count)
    Add chopped mushrooms, olives, onions or other veggies
    Put a small layer of fresh mozzarella, a layer of prosciutto, then another layer of cheese topped with another layer of prosciutto
    Put the pizza's back in the oven on the middle rack and bake at 400* for ~6 minutes then broil at 500* for 5 more minutes
    Remove from oven, sprinkle on a little more salt (I prefer pink Himalayan) and some crushed pepper.

    Enjoy...My GF loves these
     

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