Dismantled my AR upper, wasn't accurate enough

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  1. CaliforniaCanuck

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    And I'm thinking just leave it as a pile of parts in a box! I'll keep the lower intact but at the moment I don't see myself buying or building another upper. It was/is my only AR rifle.

    I think I'm over the AR thing!
     
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    That is a shame. Most problems can be diagnosed and fixed.
     
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    I tried my cheapest to most expensive lead free ammo and it's not impressive at all. I even switched the scope to make sure it's not that and same results. The same lower with my previous upper was wonderful but not this one.

    I'm done with it.
     
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    How was the barrel nut, and the crown? What was it doing? joe
     
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    I'm with you.
    I can't find anything in really like about them, that another rifle does t do better. However I did pick up a few 80% lowers, just in case lol.
     
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    What’s your standards ?
     
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    Sorry but I am a little confused !! You needed to make this statement outside your head why ?? Normally I would say its a troll tactic because its just a blank statement that seems to be made to illicit a respponse , but from what I can tell you are pretty active and a lot of people have liked your posts, so that only leads me to be more confused. Am I missing a bigger picture or an inside joke kinda thing ?
     
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    Maybe he’s crushing hard on that lighter and handier su16 ? :) lol
     
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    Yup you are right
    The AR is no good
    Please send me the upper for proper disposal LOL
     
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    If your AR wasn't accurate enough it's due to either your ability, or the quality of parts or ammunition you used.

    I've got off the shelf upper that are 1-2 MOA with an aimpoint, and I just built and upper that is capable of 1 MOA if not better.
     
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    How many rounds through it
    It has been my experience that the AR is quite accurate but most of mine took about 50 to 100 rounds to break the barrel in
     
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    Many things are possible, many things going on. AR’s mostly shoot great even tho, as they are “built” they really have little to support the accuracy.

    First off, what ammo and have you tried multiple
    Brands, bullet weights and was it 223 or 556?

    Having said that;

    1) They are not really built rather just assembled. And sometimes parts altho built to fit, dont always function properly.

    2) Has the bolt/ BCG had its head space checked?

    3) As mentioned how does the crown of the barrel look?

    4) Also as mentioned, how many rounds thru the barrel and has it been properly/regularly cleaned?

    5) How is torque and how is fitment of the barrel in the upper receiver? Bedding can help allot.

    6) How is fitment of hand guard to barrel/ gas block? A free float tube or barrel nut style can effect accuracy.

    7) Your gas system... How is function and where is ejection? Is it using a adjustable gas block? Is it a Short, Medium or standard gas system? A for-end that contacts the gas block can reak havoc on accuracy!


    Good luck, its only frustrating because its the unknown. Many good bools and plenty of utube videos as well as many knowledgeable folks here abouts can help you.

    CW
     
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    Sounds like he just doesn't like AR's anymore, and doesn't like that one enough to make it more accurate. Totally understandable. I like to shoot AK's alright, but I'd never buy one.
    People go through phases. I think having full confidence in the weapon in your hands is very important. Just having confidence in your weapon and your own abilities with it will improve your performance with it.
    Good guitars make everyone sound better.

    Some guns just don't match me and they end up getting traded. Even if I really like the gun and have wanted it for "X" long etc, if I don't shoot it well after I've given it a chance (doesn't take long to know) it get's traded.
     
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    I'll keep the lower but let the upper parts go. I won two competitions with this lower and maybe someday I'll feel like using it again but for now I don't need it.

    Even if it's just the upper, it feels good to let something go!
     
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    I feel you, I've been simplifying and consolidating myself. I've gone from reloading 4.5 calibers in volume to 2.5 (.357/38 counts as 1.5 calibers in my logistics train.)

    I bought an AR-15 right after I hung up my Super Suit, mainly I think because it felt weird not to have one close at hand. It's long gone as I've de-tacticalized myself. I'm kind of "meh" on them.
     
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    I've personally shot plenty of sub moa groups with AR rifles. I've personally shot plenty of 3/4 and 1/2 moa groups with them too. Many others have done better. Maybe a breakdown of your build could be helpful? Details details details are always helpful.

    I will say the AR takes some getting used to. The recoil is different than a bolt action and there is a learning curve to being consistent with them.

    The AR will shoot. Just sometimes it takes some worn on the rifle or shooter.

    Otherwise, if you're venting, I totally get it lol. Move the rifle on down the line if you want to change direction!
     
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    I'm curious what the difference was between this upper and your previous one, which it seems you may have been happy with, and what your standard for acceptable precision is. There are places you can and can't skimp if you want a precise rifle, with the barrel being "the" key component. Sub-MOA AR's are going to be more expensive builds, with the barrel alone costing as much or more than cheap kits. I have precision AR's like that, as well as inexpensive AR's that are 2-3 MOA, but that I'm still pleased with them for their purpose and the money.

    Of course, if you just no longer want an AR, this all moot, but it might be easier to re-assemble the upper and sell it complete than to part out the components.
     
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    If you "let the parts go", and you're in California, you may never be able to get any again. Just put it in a box and stick it in a closet, or behind a wall in your garage. :)
     
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    Most of the market (by volume) is 2-4 MOA with reasonable bulk ammo, yeah.

    That's a familiar story, OP. I was a little surprised coming over from bolt guns and handguns at being obviously more capable than my first AR was, and was additionally surprised at what passes for a high-quality trigger in the AR world.

    Like you, I vented mine and started over.
     
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    I'd be interested to hear your on-target results, quantified with barrel twist rate, ammo type, distance, and group size, and number of shots per group..
     
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    Thanks for the replies.

    It’s good the home owner had a firearm near him. I have kids in the house and in my state it’s illegal to have guns accessible like that.

    I don’t have quick access to a gun for that type of situation. It would probably take me several minutes to have a gun unlocked and loaded!
     
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    Get an sks :4:
     
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    Or the SU-16CA that got recently which turned out to be decently accurate, and seems to love cheap Russian ammo!!
     
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    Awesome
    Always good when a gun shoots the cheap stuff nicely :dblthumb:
     
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