DIY: FireDisk fire starters

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  1. almac

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    hey guys,
    I found this on NorwegianBushcraft Youtube channel, and found it very useful.

    its' pretty much a disk shaped waterproof firestarter, made with cotton, wax and lamp oil.
    they burn very well. :)

    tools: tweezers, stir stick, metal container
    expendables: cosmetic pads (makeup remover pads), wax, lamp oil(paraffin, smokeless), tin foil.

    they're pretty simple to make.
    1. melt wax in metal container(I used an old tuna tin).
    2. add some lamp oil. I didn't really measure.
    3. dip the pads, one at a time into the wax. let soak for about 10 seconds, then remove.
    4. let harden on tin foil sheet.
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    to use, just bend disk in half and tear. fluff up cotton and ignite with your choice of ignition source.

    took me about 3-5 minutes to make a dozen pads. they burn really well.
    a video can be found here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xj3FDeZZVjQ
     
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    How do you store them? Will it eat thru plastics?
     
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    Nature Girl and I make ours without the oil, just wax and cotton discs. When we use them we cut the disc into quarters (4 pieces). Fluff the cut edge and ignite. Ours quarter size piece burns for 5 minutes give or take. We store them in a couple of round snus tins. Each tin will hold 5 to 6 discs.

    Sorry, we didn't mean to seem like a hijack of the OP's thread. Just giving our experience with them.
     
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    Looks like a great idea, thanks.
     
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    Can essentially do the same thing with large cotton balls and bees wax. Just lightly dip a part of the cotton ball in melted bees wax and let dry. or if you want a waterproof tinder, VERY LIGHTLY dip the entire cotton ball in the wax. Makes the whole thing water proof, just tear open, fluff up and light. Mine burn nicely for 7 to 10 minutes. I get my wax from a local bee keeper. A little goes a fairly long way. Just don't totally saturate the cotton ball. You need some cotton to catch the spark and start to burn to light the wax. Nice tinder with a built in extender.
     
  6. almac

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    I prefer the flat disk shape than cotton balls. I like how they store better, IMO.

    I store mine in a small round tin that I got at survival resources.
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    These are great, cheap way to go for a very simple fire starter. Love them. Been making them for a few years now.
     
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    I usef rubbing alcohol, heet, and regular tea candle wax to make mine. And the cotten valls are a pain in the keaster to pack down tight, use the disk.....!
     
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    cool ill have to try this out. i've never really messed around with "synthetic" fire-starters or anything like that .. hell i didn't even keep a tinder box til i discovered what bushcraft was haha. now i see it as an invaluable resource. would hate to lose my firebox in bog.
     
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    I used the pads with tea candles worked great
     
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    I have made this fire starters too, but without adding lamp oil to the melted wax. They work very well. My way storing fire disks is a simple zip lock bag.
     
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    I recently picked up some wax to goof around with snd thar looks like an easy one. What I've done in the past is to fill an empty paper towel (or tp) tube with sawdust and a few cotton balls then close off the bottom with foil and slowly pour in melted wax till it won't hold any more. Once it hardens you cut into discs. (Got the idea as kids from a friend's dad who chewed tobacco and would fill the empty tins with sawdust and pour melted wax into them to make fire starters.
     
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    I do this but I soak the disks themselves in lamp oil for about 30min then dip them in wax, let them dry and redip them in wax again. I found they burn longer. Also if you can find disks that are waffled instead of totally flat on the bottom they work better. If there flat, the wax breaks off the bottom when you fold the disk to tare it in half. When I store them I use a skoal container and I cut wax paper to layer between each disk so they're easier to get apart. It holds 4 disks total
     
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    With that tin; that's a sweet setup. Would you ever lite it in the tin to use as a small stove under a stand? Probably very sooty if ya did. Good Stuff!
    -Kreate
     
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    Awesome guys. Thanks for this thread.
     
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    Looks like a pretty neat idea, gonna give it a try! Thanks for sharing.
     
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    Old shoe polish cans work also and some have the little twist thingy that pops the lid.
     
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    much appreciate the info in this thread ...
     
  19. almac

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    glad I could help. :)
     
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    they look like chicken hamburger patties !
     
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    Those cotton pads can be separated into layers pretty easily by pulling them apart. I pull them in half and fill them with petroleum jelly, about a teaspoon size dollop in the middle. Then I squish them back together. I can carry them loose in my my pocket without getting everything covered in PJ because the outside is just dry cotton, but usually I'll just put them in a ziplock bag. I like this because the outside stays good and fluffy to catch a spark, but once it catches it acts like a wick for the PJ. They burn for a few minutes easily, take about 3 seconds to make, and are cleaner to handle than PJ cotton balls.
     
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    What a great idea, I'll try this sometime. Thanks for sharing.
     
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    Been making them for a while with 1/2 wax and 1/2 PJ melted together but never thought to use oil I will have to try it. Thanks for the tip.
     
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    I dip the cotton rounds in melted clear Kiwi shoe polish then just store them in the tin the polish came in. I can probably fit 15 or so rounds in the Kiwi tin.
     
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    I was actually looking at the kiwi tin last week to use to store the dura blaze firestarters in. Same concept only using charcoal lighter fluid to soak the cotton rounds and beeswax with parafin wax. I was thinking I would prefer a threaded tin but the kiwi tin should work well too.
     
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    I like Icebreaker Mint containers. They are round and will hold a stack of cotton make-up pads. I put a pad in the bottom, a dab of PJ, another pad, and so on. The PJ soaks in while I carry the container in my kit.
     
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    I like this and think I will give it a try.
    What does the lamp oil do the that wax alone wont?
    How well do they take a spark?
    Thanks.
     
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    Maybe the lamp oil makes it easier to take a spark?
     
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    With my personal experience, the lamp oil gives it a longer burn time. With just wax I got about a 4min average burn time. With a pad soaked in lamp oil then dipped in wax I got about a 10min average burn time. Either method you use will burn plenty long enough to start a fire. They take a spark well if you fold/tare at the same time, so you expose all the little cotton fibers. Once I do that I just keep it folded when I throw sparks at it so theres a better chance of it catching. I also found that if you try warming the pad to soften wax by holding it between your palms for a min or so it makes tareing them easier.
     
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    It does. they almost burst into flame.
    ok. that's an exaggeration. LOL.
     
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    very good post... this is great thank you so much!
     
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    Good read... thanks!
     
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    With the combustables,would'nt they work with flint and steel
     
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    Thanks for the useful thread. I'm looking forward to trying this.
     
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    you mix all 3 together ?
     
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    Becareful with that HEET brother that's not good stuff to get on your hands or anywhere on you, it's a poison and it has no known cure.
     
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    Just made some today.

    Soaked in lampoil, then dipped in wax. I need to redip them, one coat of wax isn't enough, If you compress the pad the lampoil bursts out and stuff. Otherwise works like a champ.
    I used square ones though. Gonna go back and redip mine tomorrow, made about 50.
     
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    I am getting ready to make these this evening. I have the gulf wax and a bottle of smokeless paraffin lamp oil. What I need to know is the ratio to mix the two together. I was thinking 4 parts wax to 1 part oil but if someone has a better mixture please let me know...
     
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    I'm gonna try this with left over candle wax in my ol'ladies smelly candles... Ok I like the smell of them too but don't tell lol I might lose my man card haha

    Should work all the same right? Just wax and cotton disks... They'll just smell good lol
     
  41. almac

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    I THINK I mixed 1:3. I didn't really measure or anything; I eyeballed it. :)
     
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    I've been doing this for a while too. I think these are the best. I use about 10-15% lamp oil mixed in the wax. The more you use the softer it gets.
    I like them because they can be made and used so easily, they store easily, are completely waterproof, light weight, compact and take a spark readily.
    Mine burn about 10 to 15 minutes so a quarter pcs works fine. Just tear off what you need. I packed about five in a cut down cat food can and made a lid out of another. Makes an emergency heater/stove.
     
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    Thanks for the heads up on these! I made a batch up the other day, and they were super easy to make. I burnt a couple and was pretty impressed with the burn time. I also tried them vs cotton balls with Vaseline and thought the discs burned longer/steadier.
     

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