Double pan cooking....?

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  1. Beach Hiker

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    My thin aluminum pan is fine, but burns things too easily (especially eggs...). It is then difficult to clean.
    So today I tried this:
    Putting the lid UNDER the pan....
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    And it worked perfectly! No burning, no mess.
    Nice.
     
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    I would not have thought of that...great idea for when you want to cook something that you know will burn easily and you already have a lid sitting around.
     
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    BlueDogScout Where is all the shelf stable bacon??? Supporter

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    You know come to think of it. When I ordered my Mors pots from fourdog years ago I also ordered a heat diffuser he sells. It’s titanium, it’s light and it fits inside the 1.8L. I use it as a trivet for baking using the 1.8 and 1.1 pots but that’s probably what the original purpose was lol
     
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    Smart thinking. :) I would maybe put some water in the lower pan....keep it from warping due to high heat.
     
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    @Beach Hiker , it seems to me the two pot system is using one of the pots for a diffuser plate,,, Some old stoves came with diffuser plates, and many online cooking supply houses sell heat diffusers in an amazing number of patterns.

    Maybe, rather than risking harm to one of your pots of skillets, a simple heat diffuser would be another choice?
     
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    The bigger problem is you have a stove that lacks any simmer zone heat. Rockets are great for boiling water but not so great at simmer. Try doing scrambled eggs in a ziplock bag dropped in a pot of water.;)
     
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    I'll have to remember to try that on my stainless pots. Did it warp the lid?
     
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    you're bringing back some long forgotten rememberies

    way back in tyme when i was a wee younker mom had a glass coffee percolator w/ a glass basket

    she used a diffuser under it on the gas stove

    it was a metal ring around a round piece/sheet of asbestos :-O

    i wonder where it went...
     
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    Brilliant!
    Now I need to experiment with heat diffusers. :33:
     
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    Of course I had to study the picture closely to see if that was egg on the side of the pot. I could also see Mr beach hikers reflection!
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    It did work.
    No warping, just some nice colour....
     
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    Diffuser....
    Good idea. But.... I am kicking myself for not having brought my cast iron pan. It was a dumb last minute decision to not take it.
    With the cast iron, there really is no issue.
     
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    If you don't mind carrying your cast iron, Also check out some carbon steel pans. Lighter in weight and way less prone to breakage if you "oops" in a rocky area. Many great brands on your side of the world. (The French ones are especially nice. ;). )
     
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    Can't remember where I copied this info regarding heat diffusers and exploding stove. Here is the preautionary info:

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    Anyone else have a canister stove explode?

    This is a PSA for anyone using a canister stove. While making pancakes Sunday morning in Killarney PP I had a rather significant problem, my stove exploded. This was a newish stove for me having only been used on two other occasions, once as a test run and once to make coffee. Since the explosion I’ve done a little reading on the subject, there isn’t a lot of information, mostly speculation that the canister can explode if it gets too hot.</p>
    <p class=”s1wjcqzz-10 lkEbBw”>This is my experience; the stove was set up on a smallish table and there was a bit of wind, enough to keep the bugs away. It was warm, probably 80f/25c ish. We had a windbreak on one side of the stove and a heat dispersal plate on the burner. The canister was probably between 1/2 and 3/4 full. We’d made coffee and I was happily making my 3rd pancake. With no warning the stove exploded. You have no idea how much of an understatement that is. Luckily no one was hit with any of the shrapnel. The canister landed about 18 inches from where it started while some of the other parts were more than 60ft away. Oddly enough my pot of batter stayed in the same place but flipped entirely upside down.

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    I know you’re not suppose to use a wrap around windscreen with this stove, or an outback oven. In this case the windscreen blocked one side only, with less than 50% coverage and about 4 to 5” away from the stove. While I wasn’t using the outback oven or its cover I did have a heat dispersal plate on, you can see the pattern of it in the bottom of the pan I was using.

    I’m not entirely convince that the canister exploded, or if it did explode it may have been secondary. It seems that the explosion was above the jet, blowing out the side and collapsing everything below it. We never found the flame adjustment control or the pancake I was cooking.
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    I bought my heat diffuser to use with my new MSR Whisperlite. Saw where the Whisperlite might be difficult to regulate to get lower temps and thought the diffuser would help. Good thing is the fuel bottle is remote and away from the heat of the stove.
    Yes, I think a simple cannister stove can go bang under the right conditions. There are warnings about using them with windscreens that funnel the heat downwards, or hold too much heat in.

    I thought the diffuser in the pictures looked familiar and as I read the story, saw that it came from an Outback Oven, which I also have. There is a heavy duty piece of foil that folds into a cone that comes with the Oven, and is designed to sit below the stove burner to shield the stove and fuel cannister from downward reflected heat. Pics don't look like the shield was used above the stove that exploded.
     
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    ah ha! Good idea, Rob. Thanks!
     
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    Yeah, I wouldn't ever use a "sit on top" stove with a diffuser.


    On remote-style stoves? Have at it!
     
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