ESEE 3 HM & PR4 Scales Coming!!!

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  1. Wasp

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    I really like ESEE's blades, and their micarta is okay too, but personally I prefer The Knife Connection's G10 scales as many of you do as well.

    I have been looking at the 3 HM model they came out with, but I really wish Knife Connection's scales would fit, but after chatting with them I found out they will not. :(
    However, they are in the works and will likely be out by the end of the year. Pretty excited.:dblthumb:

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    Also....if you have ESEE's new PR4 kephart and you hate the new scalloped scales they come with or that's whats keeping you from buying it, fear not, TKC is coming out with G10 scales for it about the same time.

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    Great news on both counts.:4:
     
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    Here's the two knives if you aren't familiar.

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    ESEE PR4 Kephart
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    I'm surprised more people haven't commented on this. :/
     
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    I just bought the esee 6 with ranger green/red liners from the knife connection yesterday. I've always wanted to try out the 6 but I always had a hard time liking the handles on esee knives. Maybe it will be just what these knives need to put them over the top for me. Let us know what you think of them. I'm interested.
     
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    I've already had multiple sets on ESEE 3's and 4's and they are a HUGE improvement IMO, so no doubt these new ones will be as well. All I ever had was their original ones with flat sides, I haven't tried their contoured new scales but I have no doubt they will be great too, and lots of people like them.
     
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    That's all I've ever had on my 3 & 4 is the stock scales. If it works out with the 6... I'm going to give them a shot.
     
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    My ESEE 4HM and 6HM handles are the best of my ESEEs. The PR4 is the worst by far. Really interested to see what TKC comes up with for the PR4. But the news about TKC making handles for the PR4 is nothing new, he's been talking about making then ever since he started taking pre-orders. Making handles in the same color of the PR4 would be really cool but that would be a stretch beyond what TKC normally does.
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    You mean all you've ever had was the stock ESEEs or the TKC G10s?
     
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    All I've had is the stock scales that come on them. But I'm thinking about trying out the ones from the knife connection.
     
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    Oh do it! I was saying that's what I've had on every 3 & 4 I've had and to me it made a big difference. Worth the money.

    I like Micarta fine on some knives, but TKCs G10 improves the feel and ergos IMO.
     
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    Got an email today, he said they were testing the prototypes, so hopefully soon.
     
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    Pr4 handle is not nice, look like a piece of
     
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    Some people like it though.
     
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    Very cool! I don't have either of those knife models (at least not yet) but I've got TKC scales on most of my ESEEs. Great stuff, really does transform the knife.
     
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    The scales on the PR4 is actually what has kept me from buying one. Now I might have to order. Thanks for posting @Wasp
     
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    I've had some enjoyment using my PR4 but only when wearing gloves. I do have some material for making wood scales but time just has not been available for that project. Just too many irons in the fire right now.

    Still interested to see what TKC comes up with, announcing development to having a final product for sale takes what seems like forever. It would be really cool if ESEE just sold smoothed oval scales in the same original material.
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    20180126_154647.jpg Made my own... Fattened them out but still click into my factory sheath. Fit really nice in my hand.
     
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    That's the piece of black walnut I used the knife is stuck into... 20180121_152631.jpg
     
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    Did the PR-4 Scales ever show??

    To be honest, I got tired of asking.

    I emailed two times.
    On May 5th I was told it would be another three weeks.

    On June 8th, I was told it would be a week or two.

    Still nothing that I could find.

    Pretty frustrating really. If you don't know, just say you don't know.
     
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    They haven't ever showed. Last time I inquired they were still coming "soon" whatever that means.
     
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    They. Told me in October 2017 that the 3 & 4 HM scales would be a few more weeks and show up in January or about. I said. If you're sure and dont care I'd like to tell some people. He said go ahead.

    In May he swore the prototypes were almost finished.....

    I got tired of caring to be honest. I still check but now I feel bad I even said anything as its getting close to a year later.
     
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    I’ve been waiting on these myself. I will buy a PR4 Kephart if TKC ever gets it in their knifebuilder so you can buy it with their G10 scales instead of those scalloped monstrosities.

    Been waiting a while.

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    I've been waiting to buy the pr4 until the TKC scales come out. But it has been along wait.
    Maybe I should have just gotten the laser strike.
     
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    Can’t go wrong with a Laser Strike. I have one with TKC scales and like it a lot.

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    Don't feel bad man. You were just doing a public service for the group. It isn't like you did anything to slow down the process. You were just trying to help.

    LV,
     
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    Well notice I took pictures as proof I wasn't just making stuff up.:58: I didn't want it on me.
     
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    Jeff Reed does some amazing wood scales and also works with G10 for Esee knives and others. The guys at Esee are a fan of his work.

    He goes by Modified_esee on Instagram and Reedboyknifeworks on Facebook.
     
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    Thanks for the heads up!

    The Green and Orange are already out of stock!
    Too funny,
     
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    Are the replacement scales as thin as the original ones? The only Esee I've ever had was the RB-3. It was too thick (the stock) to be a Scandinavia grid IMO.

    I like the pattern on most of the others, but I dislike thin handles so I've never purchased one.
     
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    I really like their stuff, but I could have made my own by now. Its been what, two years since the HMs have been out?
     
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    TKC scales are usually thicker and contoured to fit your hand better than ESEE’s. In my opinion, they are worth the money. If the knife is in TKC’s knifebuilder you can buy it with TKC scales instead of ESEE’s, which will save a few bucks.

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    But why on the gimmicky bow drill dimple/divot.o_O
    I really look at thes handles as why bother with TKC this time around.
     
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    They must be thicker since they warn that the stock sheath will no longer work.

    I was disappointed that they’re only available with the bow drill divot too though.
     
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    I agree, I would like it better without the divot. That said, they still look better to me than the stock scalloped scales. Thicker too.
     
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    I just tried out the PR4 in a passaround and really liked it. The scalloped scales didnt feel at all bad like I thought. My only gripe is that it was too thin....these handles would make it a great knife, although I'm not a fan of the divot as well.
     
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    I agree with you guys about the bowdrill pivot.
    Not a fan.
     
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    Have never handled one, tbh, but the scales look WAY to thin for my mitts. As far as the scallops go, I've read conflicting reports. To me, I just don't care for the looks of the scallops. I like the looks of ESEE's stock micarta better.
     
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    I bought one even though I didn't like the scalloped handles. I was pleasantly surprised that they were more comfortable than I expected. However, they are too thin and I would gladly change them out for the TKC scales if it weren't for the bow drill divot. Now I'm thinking I'll have it re-handled instead.
     
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    +1 on the divot.
     
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    My father used to say, "The Solution is almost always worse than the Problem"

    This is a prime example

    You have a knife, this knife.
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    It works pretty well, but in reality, you didn't need it in the first place. But it's kind of cool. So you buy it anyway. Say bye, bye to One Hundred Dollars! Ba Bye!

    The handles are sort of thin. You knew this going in. But no one showed just how thin they were. They are thin. How thin? This thin.
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    It works, but you think it could work better. And suddenly on the horizon. A Solution appears. Thicker handles. Like a ship sailing into port. It comes ever closer. Until finally it reaches the dock.

    The original handles on your hundred dollar knife work. But you can improve them for another fifty bucks. Cool!

    Well sort of. The new handles are more comfortable. They fit you hand better. They work.

    That's a good thing. Because once you fit the new handles on your now One Hundred and Fifty dollar knife. The knife won't fit in the original sheath anymore.

    So you have to carry your knife everywhere you want to take it. They frown on this in Lowes.

    So now you need another sheath. One that fits your $100.00 knife with the extra $50.00 handles. New sheath probably somewhere between $35.00 and $60.00.

    Suddenly you have north of $200.00 in a $100.00 knife. Which in reality is only worth $60.00 if you actually ever use it.

    I can be extremely slow. But I'm picking up on the fact that this may not be the best value proposition out there.

    Seems like a lot of money going up in flames, to fix a problem that shouln't have been there in the first place.
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    Maybe, I should just listen to @tobiism
    Maybe I'll just keep my skinny slabs and deal with it.
     
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    It's way way too thin for your paws, Dubz. The TKC might help a lot with that. I wonder about the handle length though
     
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    @LostViking , while your words ring with wisdom and truth, I have resigned myself to the fact that I cannot stray from the quest. Others may heed your advice and live a happy, productive life, but my destiny has been foreordained.
    The Grail...is out there!
     
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    I am just the Preacher. And like all Preachers, I am flawed. Like Indiana, I still seek the Grail.

    Currently, I believe my Grail has 3 Stripes. Three stripes, like on a Sargent. Sargent M3, or maybe M3C.
    That's part of what my sermon was trying to say.

    By the time I outfit this Kephart to my liking. I'm 2/3s of the way to a Sargent Edged Tool!
     
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    Not in the woods....damn.
    I didn't realize just how thin it was, until the posted photos above. Damn man, way too thin. They need thick liners at the very least. I wondered about the length as well. Freakin' mitts of mine...

    Still think my rendering was better:

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    Educate me...wouldn’t you wear through those scales fairly quickly if you actually used that bow drill divot? I’ve never tried friction fire, but watching videos of guys doing it I can’t see these scales holding up to a couple of attempts before being drilled down to the tang. If they were stainless cups epoxied in maybe people would be more excited about that feature. I don’t have either of the knives so it doesn’t really affect me. Just curious.
     
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    Why not just cut some liners/spacers for the factory scales? That would make the grip thicker without having to buy expensive new grip scales and maybe even add a little style.
     
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    Micarta is much harder than wood; it wouldn’t wear out very quick. I think that’s the least of the problem.
     
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    Yeah G10 is really hard and durable. You can abrade it but its difficult. A lot more than micarta.

    Plus I cant imagine most people would use it regularly, so you probably could do without it, but some will like it and be glad its there. I agree it should be an option but not regular thing.
     

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